Thursday, November 6, 2008

25 new messages in 14 topics - digest

adobe.photoshop.windows
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* Photoshop CS4 is a disaster - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
* CS4 - Float All Windows - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/7d7029d9e25f3a21?hl=en
* CS4 & Win XP Pro SP3 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/d40455bd5a6ab9e8?hl=en
* AGP opengl cards - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f141ccdb1d7e11dc?hl=en
* Of Interest To Anyone with Lag In Photoshop Extended CS4 - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f5376e115763a4e1?hl=en
* cs3 crashing on start up - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/be6610ca0eca71d0?hl=en
* Moving from comp to CSS web layout? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/786fed93abd8aac8?hl=en
* File window content disappears in CS4 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/fdab245391720b03?hl=en
* text layer needs to be updated ?? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e3d1361b33b0b4ba?hl=en
* can i keep installed cs4 cs3 and cs2 on a pc - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/8dc99633876cfff8?hl=en
* cs3 extended to cs4 (non-extended) upgrade still not worked out... hopes dim
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/42f7f8ac8a3e5181?hl=en
* CS-3 Standard. Type color problem - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/cbeac3674b58e2cc?hl=en
* Making a Touched Up Photo look real - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/1a7ca7446e190cd5?hl=en
* CS4 lag. What graphic card will it take? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/4eea63c573b83340?hl=en

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 is a disaster
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:06 am
From: David_Nicol@adobeforums.com


I have the lagging problem (and I have an Intel processor), but I wouldn't call CS4 a disaster. The rotating canvas (something Painter already had 10 years ago) removes my number one complaint about Photoshop as a pure drawing application.

I'm really surprised that in their beta testing, Adobe never encountered the lag problem, considering how many others like myself experience it now. Maybe their list of beta testers is too narrow. They should have done a public beta release like they did with Dreamweaver, and have thousands of testers.

I trust that Adobe has put top priority on solving this. Once it's solved, then I'll be delighted with CS4. Annoying, should have been tested more before relase, but not by any means a disaster.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:32 am
From: Kwan_Parker@adobeforums.com


Like others, I experienced lagging and momentary ghosting when moving images.

On average my images are 2 -3 megs and seldom larger than 5 megs.

Windows XP SP3
Nvidia 7900GS 256 (latest driver)
4 megs memory (3.5 useable)

For my purposes, slow response or lagging and ghosting was resolved by increasing the cache to 6, enabling OpenGL Drawing but unchecking everything in the Advanced Settings window except Advanced Drawing.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:30 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


P.S. DOES ADOBE HAVE A RETURN/EXCHANGE POLICY?


return for 30 days. call customer support.


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TOPIC: CS4 - Float All Windows
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/7d7029d9e25f3a21?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:12 am
From: grahamtav@adobeforums.com


Is it possible for the 'float all windows' option to stay or be permanent.
Despite setting this option everytime I open a new image it reverts back to the 'tab' option - or is it just me!
Graham

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:23 am
From: Kwan_Parker@adobeforums.com


Yes.

Go to Edit . . . Preferences . . . Interface

Under Panels and Documents, remove the check mark from "Open documents as tabs."

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:37 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


nevermind

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:28 am
From: grahamtav@adobeforums.com


thanks for your help Kwan - your a star!!

Freeagent, you were nearly a star!

Graham

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:37 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


s'okay fa. we still like you. XD

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:36 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


you were nearly a star!


Oh well...


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TOPIC: CS4 & Win XP Pro SP3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/d40455bd5a6ab9e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:17 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


I used the /3GB switch on and off with xp. My conclusion was that it wasn't really worth it, because I would always end up with scratch sizes above available RAM anyway. I saw much more performance boost by setting up a dedicated RAID 0 array as scratch disk.

In addition, it only works as advertised if you're running Photoshop by itself. With heavy multitasking it can actually slow things down because Windows will have to page out the other apps more.

So it might work for some, but it depends on what you do.


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TOPIC: AGP opengl cards
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f141ccdb1d7e11dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:32 am
From: KCinWisc


I need to update my graphics card and was looking into options that
cs4 can fully take advantage of. Video, photoshop, all possibilities.
My downfall is that I dont have a pci express motherboard. Does anyone
have any suggestions for an opengl 2.0 compatible card in a midrange
($200-300) that will perform solidly. Please don't recommend upgrade
motherboard....I looked into it and financially it is not an option
(entails cpu upgrade and new Vista). Ive been looking at nvidia cards
(found some good deals on quadro lines) but according to specs, agp
Quadro cards only support opengl 1.5 (unless I am misreading).

TIA


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TOPIC: Of Interest To Anyone with Lag In Photoshop Extended CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f5376e115763a4e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:38 am
From: chris_farrell@adobeforums.com


Did you install your motherboards chipset drivers? I have experienced lag in PS CS3 and CS4 and it has almost always been down to scratch drive performance / cache level and ram. If your hard drives ( asuming you have more than one for photoshop ) are not running at optimum then you will experience a performance hit.

Installing the chipsets drivers first thing after the reformat is a really good idea....

Hope this helps.

BTW...I don't have any lag any more after making sure the above is in place.


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TOPIC: cs3 crashing on start up
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/be6610ca0eca71d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:35 am
From: Elaine_Williams@adobeforums.com


Freeagent,

Well I went home yesterday and started removing fonts and when I finished the 1st section, I was able to log back into Photoshop and I was also able to finish my project and meet deadline.

Thanks

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:41 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


That's great, Elaine :)

It's good to know the things we tell people to do actually work!


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TOPIC: Moving from comp to CSS web layout?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/786fed93abd8aac8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:44 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


Don't worry Mylenium. You're doing fine.


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TOPIC: File window content disappears in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/fdab245391720b03?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:54 am
From: Glenn_UK@adobeforums.com


I am very much with Nick on this.

Chris, you are constantly telling those of us experiencing serious display problems while using Adobe-Approved cards to update our GPU Driver to the latest available, which we do without (in many cases) the problems being resolved.

I am struggling to make sense of your position: on the one hand you maintain that it's the incompetence of even the latest drivers which is preventing v.11 from performing properly with (some?) approved cards; while on the other you say these same cards a) have worked successfully in your testing and b) seemingly work successfully now for other users?

It must follow that there are known Drivers which did and do interpret and implement your code successfully with these Cards; and that we with the ReDraw problems are not using them.

If we were told which these successful drivers happen to be we could at least then establish whether or not we need to be looking elsewhere for a cause of these debilitating problems.


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TOPIC: text layer needs to be updated ??
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e3d1361b33b0b4ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:02 am
From: Mark_J_Peterson@adobeforums.com


Hi Ed, thanks for your help.
I don't think I can resetting my prefs as this problem doesn't occur often, so I can't verify the effects unfortunately. And on a long term basis I need a lot of prefs settings as they are for my work, so ... (besides, I don't see any settings related to this problem anyway).

"in another font" ==> other than what? I have several different fonts in my document. They all displayed in the text tool's drop down menu and were chosen this way. It's also not a missing font problem or a badly installed font, because when I click on "update", the file opens fine, all text layers are there, look like they should and are text-editable. Subsequent saving and re-opening isn't subject to the error-message anymore.

So there are no immediate problems for me, but it's still obvious, that I'm doing something wrong, otherwise I wouldn't get this error message from times to times.


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TOPIC: can i keep installed cs4 cs3 and cs2 on a pc
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/8dc99633876cfff8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:33 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


yes, they're all installed by default in totally seperate folders. just don't mix them up (like copying plugins from one to another).


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TOPIC: cs3 extended to cs4 (non-extended) upgrade still not worked out...
hopes dim
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/42f7f8ac8a3e5181?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:35 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


milbump.

anyone heard from john nack on this? can he comment here? or can anyone in the know comment? i'd like to get a copy, but i'm not sure what direction i'm going yet. probably the extended, but i'd like to know my options before proceeding, and i'd like to get it cleared up for others with the same question, if possible.


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TOPIC: CS-3 Standard. Type color problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/cbeac3674b58e2cc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:40 am
From: Bill_Lamp@adobeforums.com


Thank you.

I will try them, in the order you suggest, this evening when I get back to the Photoshop computer.

Bill


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TOPIC: Making a Touched Up Photo look real
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/1a7ca7446e190cd5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:39 am
From: OldBob


This might help:

<http://biorust.com/tutorials/detail/163/en/>

They have a lot of good tutorials there.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:43 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


just wanted to pop in and say what a great thread this is so far guys! thank you!


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TOPIC: CS4 lag. What graphic card will it take?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/4eea63c573b83340?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:40 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


you know how those "arteest" types are!


Oh please, Dave. Artiste. If it's not too much trouble.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:37 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


no problem john. if you're new-ish here, welcome to the forum. this is a great place to learn, if you're willing to put up with the cranky regulars! :)

(you know how those "arteest" types are! ;))

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:42 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


:P

what do i know. i'm a hacker.

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