Photoshop How To Use: Mar 15, 2009

Sunday, March 15, 2009

[fnftwo] TOTW -Fantasma

Great Choice Diane. I have never used this before

but will certainly do so in the future. I sort of followed the tut but soon got lost. I at least used the selections

and the Effet Fantasma on them and the

borders.

A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!

[PSP-Snags] Sharing Bunnies MS Layout

<style>
.r{}
Body{

background-color:000000;
background-image: url("http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5043/bgcircleswhitemaryfrany.jpg");
background-attachment: fixed;
background-position: center ;
background-repeat: repeat ;
scrollbar-track-color:transparent;
scrollbar-face-color:5AC0F0;
scrollbar-highlight-color:FFFFFF;
scrollbar-base-color:5C5044;
scrollbar-DarkShadow-color:5AC0F0;
scrollbar-Shadow-color:F79162;
scrollbar-arrow-color:FFFFFF;
}

Table, Td{
background-color:transparent;
border-style:none;

table table td{
width:100%;
}

table table table table td{
width:auto;
}

table table table{
width:100%;
background-color:ffffff;
border-color:98D2DB;
border-style:solid;
border-width:3px;
padding:0px;
}

table table table table{
border-style:none;
}

.orangetext15, .F4C3B8text8, .btext, .redtext, .redbtext{
color:F4C3B8;
font-size:8px;
font-weight:bold;
text-decoration:none;
text-transform:uppercase;
font-style:normal;
font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,sans-serif;
}

.nametext, .blacktext8 {
font-family: verdana;
text-transform: uppercase;
font-size: 9px;
font-weight: bold;
background-color: E2E5B5;
color:ffffff;
line-height: 9px;
padding-left: 3px;
padding-right: 3px;
width: 100%;
text-align: center;
}

body, div, p, strong, td, .text, .blacktext10, .blacktext12, a.searchlinkSmall, a.searchlinkSmall:link, a.searchlinkSmall:visited{
color:F4C3B8;
font-size:10px;
font-weight:normal;
text-decoration:none;
font-style:bold;
font-style:normal;
font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,sans-serif;
}

.lightbluetext {
font-family: verdana;
text-transform: uppercase;
font-size: 8px;
color: F4C3B8;
background-color: 494F71;
font-weight: bold;
text-align: left;
width: 100%;
}

a:link, a:link font, a:active, a:active font, a:visited, a:visited font, a.navbar:link, a.navbar:active, a.navbar:visited, a.redlink:link, a.redlink:active, a.redlink:visited {font-family: tahoma; font-size: 9px; color: F4C3B8; text-transform: lowercase; text-decoration: none;}
a img {border-color:150781; border-style:dotted; border-width:0px;}
a:hover, a.navbar:hover, a.redlink:hover {font-family: tahoma; font-size: 9px; color:F4C3B8; background-color: none; text-decoration: none; cursor: crosshair;} a:hover img {filter:Gray;}

.contactTable {
width:324px !important; height:149px !important; padding:0px !important;
background-image:url("http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5229/animation4h2.gif");
background-attachment:scroll; background-position:center center;
background-repeat:no-repeat; background-color:transparent; border:3px;}
.contactTable table, table.contactTable td { padding:0px !important;
border:2px; background-color:transparent; background-image:none;}
.contactTable a img {visibility:hidden; border:2px !important;}
.contactTable a {display:block; height:48px; width:115px;}
.contactTable .text {font-size:15px !important;}
.contactTable .text, .contactTable a, .contactTable img {filter:none !important;}
</style> <style>

img { filter: Alpha(Opacity=100); }
a:link img { f filter: Alpha(Opacity=40); }
a:hover img { filter: Alpha(Opacity=85); }
table
table table table
</style>

Hello Everyone I just wanted to thank Sharron (SugarSmax) For sharing with me yesterday It was greatly appreciated. And also to thank everyone

Else that responded as well. I have attached the myspace layout code and a preview. Thanks Again. Hugs.

Crystal

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[fnftwo] TOTW - Fantasmo

Used the filter on a mask which I incorporated into the background. This is another of those filters that I have never used before inspite of having them on the computer since the dawn of time. Thanks Diane for the challenge.

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I would like to ask the tutorial writers to please NOT send through tutorials without the proper copyright credit. If your tag has an image it has to properly credited. There are a few that have slipped through recently and to be honest, Rach and I don't have the time to check each tutorial to make sure that it is copyright compliant. We are trusting that you will be responsible in this matter. If I do notice a tutorial that isn't properly credited, I won't allow it through. Sorry.

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adobe.photoshop.windows - 25 new messages in 16 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Bridge forgets the last folder I had open
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/ffd8e8532e129e04?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:43 pm
From: marv_naumann@adobeforums.com

Bridge forgets the last folder I had open when I restart the computer and PS4/Bridge. What gives?

Thanks Marv.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:58 pm
From: curt_young@adobeforums.com

You have to exit Bridge before shutting down computer. Problem arises with the option to automatically start Bridge on computer start up.

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TOPIC: missing "Contact Sheet II" fix for CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/1c55fbde9eb8e23d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:48 pm
From: marv_naumann@adobeforums.com

Somewhere I saw a missing "Contact Sheet II" fix for CS4. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

The PDF contact in CS4 is not flexable and is very limited. You can't see it in Bridge or make changes like you can to a jpg contact sheet.

Thanks Marv.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:16 pm
From: Dennis_S@adobeforums.com

<http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb404900&sliceId=2>

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TOPIC: Video Card suggestions for FULL OpenGL 2.0 feature set in PS CS4?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/e64a6134c6cb8aab?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:51 pm
From: Jim_Strenk@adobeforums.com

Thank you Zeno for your quick reply. It is appreciated!

I'm glad to have read your posted based on the fact that I had an Nvidia 6200 in my hot little hands today! I decided not to buy it based on available video memory, 256MB. From what I've gathered so far from Adobe, 516 MB seems to allow more OpenGL 2 functionality to Photoshop CS4.

My own investigations seem to agree with your statement regarding AGP availability for ATI and ATI Partner video cards. The same is true of NVidia AGP video cards being harder to find. And thanks to your reply, I now know why!

Regarding ATI Partner Video Cards, I've noticed that there can be quite a difference in Price Point for the same ATI technology card.

Generally, or if you have specific examples, what causes differing ATI Partners to price their product(s) at differing Price Points?

How about Nvidia Partners? Why the price differences?

Again, I thank you for your input. I shall look into both the ATI Video Cards that you've suggested.

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TOPIC: CS3 Easter Egg
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/c638d72438a897ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:56 pm
From: Jim_Strenk@adobeforums.com

Yep. It certainly does work when using Photoshop CS4. Good catch!

Now, back to work! Ha ha!

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TOPIC: Filter>Distort>Displace- nothing happens
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/1882ef8d30272dd6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:00 pm
From: EvelynC@adobeforums.com

I got some great help here back in February when I had only been studying Photoshop for two weeks. Now I'm a seasoned user of three months. [Hysterical laughter!] I'm on that hamster wheel where you do the thing over and over again and can't see why it isn't working. Excuse me while I run to the kitchen for some cracked corn and greens...

I'm wanting to wrap a snake texture over a woman's face similar to what I found in a tutorial here:
<http://www.tutcity.com/view/texture-wrapping.2843.html>

When I did this tutorial everything worked fine, but it is not working when I do it with my own document. The breakdown is in the filter>distort>displace step.

This is what happens when I do it
I created a grayscale image of a face and saved it on the background layer (which I unlocked by renaming it Layer 1).
The grayscale image has plenty of light and dark areas-- good contrast.
I saved that doc as "bighead.psd," and it has only one [unlocked] layer.
I DID save with Maximize Compatibility turned ON. And I saved it in a folder with the snakeskin document that I will be wrapping over it. [These were two possible displace function issues that I found in a search of this forum.]
I go to the doc that has the snakeskin on a layer. I control-click on the layer thumbnail to select the snakeskin.
I go to filter>distort>displace.
I choose 10% horizontal and 10% vertical, stretch to fit, and repeat edge pixels.
I navigate to the document "bighead.psd" and hit okay.
Not only does nothing happen, but NOTHING EVEN SHOWS UP IN THE HISTORY PANEL.

After doing this a zillion times, I tried an experiment.
I went to the document with the snakeskin, control-clicked on the layer thumbnail to select.
I chose filter>distort>displace, but instead of navigating to bighead.psd (the displacement map I created), I navigated to the displacement map that I downloaded used earlier today when I was doing the tutorial (also a psd document, a grayscale image of a woman's face).

I made exactly the same choices as described above, and when I hit "open," the displacement DID work and the step "displace" DID show up in the history panel. I figured something must be different about the two displacement map documents???

I've brought both displacement map documents up side by side in two windows and I've been going back and forth between them trying to see any difference.

I know the software is very literal-minded, so there must be some small thing wrong that I'm not seeing. I hope someone can see what I'm not seeing.

Thanks.

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TOPIC: cs3 stops running when opening a picture file
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/492c14037c97c8ce?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:11 pm
From: CRAIG_R_ROBERTSON@adobeforums.com

Zeno and Chis much thanks for help. It appear to be the printer driver. Just have to change the driver on printer and I should be good to go....Thanks ...Craig

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TOPIC: Nikon Digital Mess?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/043e0d318dd38750?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:33 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com

Karla,
Did you go to the Microsoft typography website?

I just cut and paste the help page for you to look at:

Make text easier to read using ClearType

ClearType font technology makes the text on your screen almost as sharp and clear as text that is printed on paper. It is on by default in this version of Windows.

To get the full benefit of ClearType, you'll need a high-quality, flat-panel monitor, such as LCD or plasma. Even on a CRT monitor, you might get some improvement in readability with ClearType.

ClearType improves the readability of text on your display

To tune ClearType
You can use the online tuner to further adjust the legibility of on-screen items.

Go to the Microsoft typography website, and then follow the instructions for tuning ClearType.

To turn on ClearType
Click to open Appearance Settings.

Click Effects.

In the Effects dialog box, select Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts.

Select ClearType in the list, and then click OK.

Note
Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256 colors. You'll get the best results with High color (24-bit) or Highest color (32-bit) support. You can change color quality in Display Settings in Control Panel.

Click to open Display Settings.

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TOPIC: System requirements
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/cc8ac49a92e61714?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:43 pm
From: Jay_B_Smith@adobeforums.com

I have given up hope on getting cs4 to work on my old computer (multiprocessor server board) but what about cs3? My system seems to meet the minimum requirements but I had no luck running cs4 and cs3 is not functioning properly. Can someone take a look at these specs and tell me if this system should run cs3? I know it is an old system but I have not had any problems with it since it was new and do not plan on getting rid of it any time soon.

Tyan Tiger MP (2460) AMD-760 MP Motherboard

2 X Athlon MP 1800+

2 gigs Kingston DDR registered EEC memory

ATI Radeon 9550 256 MB DDR memory (with openGL Support)

Windows Vista Ultimate

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TOPIC: CS4 large file very slow load
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/04256ecf1614ad4c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:51 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com

RAID 1 will help protect from data loss as it mirror images on all drives the same. One fails the other 3 you can still run with. Biggest draw back is the you lose about 50 percent of total storage space. Too much waste for me. I never went RAID.

Raymond: Last year I was just reading up on RAID for Photoshop and 3d max runnig faster. But as Bob pointed out, and I agree with him, that a back up hard drive is much better. Safer anyways. I just use 2 300 gig velociraptors as separate drives.

As mentioned above there is a lot more involved like other hardware and motherboard and such.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:06 pm
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

because it doesn't really matter what happens when one drive containing
valuable data crashes if you don't have it
backed up.

not really. if you lose a drive out of a raid array you have slim to no chance of recovering it. if a single drive crashes, chances are fair to very good you can get back most or all of what was on the drive at some point, depending on your determination (or what's in your wallet).

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TOPIC: PS CS4 Help file. Where the heck is it?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/1da8f3aa61eb8f5e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:00 pm
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

kinda stupid not to include a help file. what is going on over at headquarters?!!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:17 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com

They are loading Easter Eggs

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TOPIC: Activation Help Please? [Photoshop CS3]
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/920202493be56edd?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:02 pm
From: Maria_Therese@adobeforums.com

When I try to register my Photoshop CS3 Extended via internet connection, it says 'Activation - No Connection', even though it's plugged into the internet. How do I fix this?

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:14 pm
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

it should give you a phone number to call in the same message. call it and they'll fix it for you.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:54 pm
From: nan_exist@adobeforums.com

agree, just call

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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:01 pm
From: nan_exist@adobeforums.com

actually, make sure your firewall isn't blocking the program, that may be the issue.

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== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:05 pm
From: Maria_Therese@adobeforums.com

hmm? how do you unblock the program?

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TOPIC: How much do you love Photoshop?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/b26e51a9fbdace16?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:05 pm
From: nan_exist@adobeforums.com

I mean really...is it like a relationship? Like you would never cheat on photoshop with another photo editing program? Or just a general preference?

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I wanna know!!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:52 pm
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com

Get serious!:D

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TOPIC: Making a line image sketchy
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/0cb026bb4f01a5a6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:28 pm
From: KatWoman@adobeforums.com

How do I turn it to a path?
select the black with select color range\
change selection to a path (bottom of path palette)
stroke path

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TOPIC: Brush Preset always grayed out in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/e447a59fcce81862?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:49 pm
From: Eric_C_Downing@adobeforums.com

Thanks Chris, After a little more experimentation with the brush preset I see that it does in fact work by selection size. My selection was just a little too large.

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TOPIC: Anyone notice Open GL 2.0 performance differences between PS CS4 and PS
CS4 Extended?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/004d0f3c9431203e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 7:54 pm
From: Jim_Strenk@adobeforums.com

Prior to my recent purchase and installation of PS CS4 Standard, I had downloaded and installed PS CS4 Extended, which is the TRIAL VERSION of PS CS4.

I've noticed several difference between the TRIAL VERSION and Standard.

While using the TRIAL VERSION, The Arrange Documents Pull down showed all the icons within sections 1 and 2.

With the Standard Version installed the same icons associated with the Arrange Documents Pull down are no longer visible.

While using the TRIAL VERSION, image magnifications of 500% or higher were displaying the Pixel Grid.

With the Standard Version installed, those same magnifications NO LONGER SHOW the Pixel Grid.

While using the TRIAL VERSION, the Preferences - Performance GPU Dialog box was grayed out.

With the Standard Version the GPU Dialog box is stilled grayed out, but now reveals (in black text) that "No GPU options available with Photoshop Standard".

Was the OpenGL specs for the TRIAL VERSION somehow "loosened" or made less stringent versus the OpenGL specs for PS CS4?

Is there any other explanation for the differences in OpenGL performance between the TRIAL VERSION and the Standard version?

Any tips, suggestions or errata on this subject would be greatly appreciated!

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TOPIC: switching languages in Photoshop or CS4?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/8845fd5f919c15dd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 9:02 pm
From: ask732@adobeforums.com

I'm wondering if anybody knows of a way, short of reinstalling, to switch the default language for the various CS4 tools. I appear to have somehow set up for "English UK" instead of "English USA".

Thanks in advance.

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There are some AMAZING Textures here. Many are able to be downloaded in different sizes for whatever you may need.

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I have a new tut up on my site called Most Wanted Girls!

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* Kill Deer Along The Shoreline With The D3x!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Field of view - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* What kind of hawk is this? - 8 messages, 7 authors
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* New photos,looking for imput - 1 messages, 1 author
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* ISO & exposure comp. -- aren't they redundant? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Taking The D3x Into The Valley Of Darkness To Tame The Beast!! - 2 messages,
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TOPIC: Kill Deer Along The Shoreline With The D3x!!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:00 pm
From: me@mine.net

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:50:18 -0500, in rec.photo.digital George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>In my previous post on this, I think the first shot wasn't a "broken wing",
>but more like what I just read from your reference: "The Killdeer uses a
>quite different display, fluffing itself up, displaying its tail over its
>head, and running at the beast to attempt to make it change its path."
>
>She sure has her tail up, but looks like 'the beast' was too dumb to change
>paths...

Would tend to agree with you on this.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:15 pm
From: "Neil Harrington"

me@mine.net wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:54:21 -0400, in rec.photo.digital "Neil
> Harrington" <not@home.today> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank goodness for Google. I'd never heard of the killdeer before.
>
> If you have any interest at all in regard to birds you might wish to
> bookmark the Cornell Labs All About Birds web site.
>
> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/

Thanks, I will check that out.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:04 pm
From: ASAAR

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:36:14 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote:

> Sorry, what exactly is the problem in using the simple formulas which
> David kindly posted?

Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
factors. David answered your request as I mentioned in my last
reply, telling you to "ignore" crop factors. Do you agree with his
position, that crop factors don't provide enough accuracy? If you
do, then it's good that you've finally learned that crop factors are
so inaccurate as to be nearly useless, and are to be ignored.

* Cilla Black, Dionne Warwick, Cher, et. al. offered clues.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:44 pm
From: Alfred Molon

In article <frmqr4tankc83kjk4hmrb1tqigfqto5n0i@4ax.com>, ASAAR says...

> Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
> asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
> factors.

I asked for a formula to calculate the FoV. That I mentioned crop
factors is irrelevant (just ignore that). But frankly I don't understand
what we are disagreeing about
--

Alfred Molon
------------------------
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:07 pm
From: ASAAR

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:44:13 +0100, Alfred Molon whimsied:

>> Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
>> asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
>> factors.
>
> I asked for a formula to calculate the FoV. That I mentioned crop
> factors is irrelevant (just ignore that). But frankly I don't understand
> what we are disagreeing about

Yes, that's very clear. In the future it might be useful to
provide clues as to which parts of your posts are irrelevant. For
all anyone knew, the "formula" that you requested might have been
the irrelevant word, when what you really wanted was a table of
values. Except for those living in some far off land, words and
their usages aren't as elastic as you seem to think.

> "Words mean exactly what I want them to mean,"
> the Red Queen informed Alice in Wonderland.

> "It's too late to correct it," said the Red Queen: "when you've once
> said a thing, that fixes it, and you must take the consequences."

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:10 pm
From: "Neil Harrington"

George Kerby wrote:

>>
>>
> Thanks for the information. I may be buying the BC-700 because of the
> reduced price that you mentioned.

You're welcome. I just ordered one last night.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:31 pm
From: @comcast.net (GMAN)

In article <47ydnUTmkvct_SDUnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@giganews.com>, "Neil Harrington"
<not@home.today> wrote:
>George Kerby wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the information. I may be buying the BC-700 because of the
>> reduced price that you mentioned.
>
>You're welcome. I just ordered one last night.
>
>
For a little more you should have got the better equipped BC900

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00077AA5Q/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk

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TOPIC: What kind of hawk is this?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:24 pm
From: JoelH

Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/

Is it even a hawk?

Thanks.

-Joel

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:48 pm
From: "jaf"

Hi Joel,
Looks like a cooper's hawk.
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html

John

"JoelH" <JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fc631b98-0d01-427a-8350-000ccb48819f@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Is it even a hawk?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Joel

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:51 pm
From: me@mine.net

On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:24:03 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital JoelH
<JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
>Is it even a hawk?

I believe it to be a Cooper's Hawk:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:57 pm
From: Allen

jaf wrote:
> Hi Joel,
> Looks like a cooper's hawk.
> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html
>
> John
>
>
> "JoelH" <JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fc631b98-0d01-427a-8350-000ccb48819f@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>>
>> Is it even a hawk?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Joel
Definitely does look like a Cooper's. As the Cooper's has such a wide
range it doesn't apply in this case, but generally when asking for an ID
of a bird it helps to give where/when info. Incidentally, in Austin TX
we have what seems like a very large number of both Cooper's and
Red-tails nowadays. It is unusual to drive along our urban expressways
without seeing several, hanging around waiting for lunch to venture out.
Allen

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:26 pm
From: JoelH

> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Definitely does look like a Cooper's. As the Cooper's has such a wide
> range it doesn't apply in this case, but generally when asking for an ID
> of a bird it helps to give where/when info. Incidentally, in Austin TX

Last week in my backyard :-) That is, early March in Westchester
County, north of New York City.

I wonder why it's so fat. (It looks pregnant, which, of course, it's
not.)

-Joel

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:59 pm
From: Twibil

On Mar 15, 2:26 pm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Last week in my backyard :-) That is, early March in Westchester
> County, north of New York City.
>
> I wonder why it's so fat.

Probably because -like all birds- they fluff their feathers out in
cool weather to provide better insulation.

~Pete

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:03 pm
From: ransley

On Mar 15, 3:24 pm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Is it even a hawk?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Joel
I say its a red tail, I have coopers and redtail out my window and in
my yard trying to catch all the squirrels I fed all winter. The
Coopers are all grey and lighter and that one looks big, like a
redtail.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:42 pm
From: Savageduck

On 2009-03-15 16:03:01 -0700, ransley <Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com> said:

> On Mar 15, 3:24Êpm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>>
>> Is it even a hawk?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Joel
> I say its a red tail, I have coopers and redtail out my window and in
> my yard trying to catch all the squirrels I fed all winter. The
> Coopers are all grey and lighter and that one looks big, like a
> redtail.

That is a Cooper's Hawk, the 3 tail chevrons with the last one broader
and darker is diagnostic.
This is much smaller than even a light morph Red Tail.
If you were going to mistake it for anything else a possibility might
be a Sharp Shinned Hawk, but it is smaller and there are 4 tail
chevrons evenly colored, so Cooper's it is.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:02 pm
From: Nicko

On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, snapshot_1124 <woahhbabii...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone ,
> I'm Kaitlin

I'm sorry to hear that.

You must hate your parents for giving you that name.

--
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TOPIC: ISO & exposure comp. -- aren't they redundant?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:45 pm
From: Doug Jewell

Bob Larter wrote:
> Charles Packer wrote:
>> This has been very enlightening. First, I never knew that
>> film cameras had exposure compensation controls as well
>> as the ASA dial.
>
> They mostly don't - at least none of the basic 35mm film SLRs I've ever
> used have had EC, so we used to either shoot with the meter off the zero
> position, or change the ASA setting to give the same effect.
I had an old ricoh that had EC. It was an extra dial
attached to the ISO dial, so internally it did exactly the
same thing to the meter as changing ISO.

--
Have you ever noticed that all legal documents need to be
completed in black or blue pen, but we vote in pencil?

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TOPIC: Taking The D3x Into The Valley Of Darkness To Tame The Beast!!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:17 pm
From: "bowser"

"Larry Thong" <larry_thong@shitstring.com> wrote in message
news:t_GdnSwilYGloiHUnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@supernews.com...
> tony cooper wrote:
>
>> A waste, hunh? But a close-up shot of a model train would be a
>> perfectly legitimate entry in your new Shoot-In mandate. I may use
>> it.
>
> Considering the model train display is an exact reproduction of the 13
> mile
> stretch from historic Ellicott City to Baltimore depicting the B&O
> Railroad
> line of yesteryear it is very impressive.

Yeah, too bad the picture sucked. Damn shame.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:18 pm
From: "Larry Thong"

bowser wrote:

>> Considering the model train display is an exact reproduction of the
>> 13 mile
>> stretch from historic Ellicott City to Baltimore depicting the B&O
>> Railroad
>> line of yesteryear it is very impressive.
>
> Yeah, too bad the picture sucked. Damn shame.

LOL! Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment. I'm so glad you liked
it.

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TOPIC: New Mandate: Close Up, Due April 5th, 2009
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:18 pm
From: "bowser"

"Atheist Chaplain" <abused@cia.gov> wrote in message
news:49bcd991@news.x-privat.org...
> "bowser" <wh@tisgoing.on> wrote in message
> news:49bbcb49$0$8344$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>
>> "Atheist Chaplain" <abused@cia.gov> wrote in message
>> news:49bb9be8@news.x-privat.org...
>>> "bowser" <wh@tisgoing.on> wrote in message
>>> news:49b998cf$0$2784$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>> After the monthly board meeting, the Shoot-In Advisory Board Committee
>>>> Team Group has chosen Close Up as this month's photographic mandate.
>>>> However, this mandate has been Bowzerized, as usual. Here's the idea:
>>>> grab a lens, any lens, and shoot something at that lens' closet
>>>> possible focus point; OR submit a killer macro/micro shot using some
>>>> dedicated macro/micro lens. This gives those of you who do not own a
>>>> macro lens a chance to submit, and those of you who have spent for that
>>>> MP-E to show us what you can do with it. There were other mandates
>>>> considered, but rejected by the Board:
>>>>
>>>> Man Date: great idea, but it gave Brett a huge advantage. No fair for
>>>> the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>> Self-Portrait: maybe next month, but it's been done as Rogue's Gallery,
>>>> and besides that, nobody deserves to be subjected to my face. Nobody.
>>>>
>>>> It's all here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin
>>>>
>>>> This mandate, Close Up, is due April 5th, 2009. Please submit your
>>>> photos by 6PM, Eastern Daylight Time.
>>>>
>>>> Fire!
>>>
>>> but does it have to be of your face ??
>>
>> No, but the alternatives are much, much worse...
>
> how bad can the back of your head be ??

Well, it is a lot better than the front, no question. But that wouldn't
work, would it?

OK, how about "self-portrait" for the next mandate? I'll be gentle.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:19 pm
From: "Larry Thong"

We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?

<http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Wetback.jpg>

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:50 pm
From: Savageduck

On 2009-03-15 17:19:23 -0700, "Larry Thong" <larry_thong@shitstring.com> said:

> We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
> swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
> But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?
>
>
> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Wetback.jpg>

Now there you go calling those Canadians disparaging names.
Silly goose.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:46 pm
From: Nicko

On Mar 15, 7:19 pm, "Larry Thong" <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote:
> We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
> swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
> But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?
>
> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Wetback.jpg>

As your Wetback lawyer, I advise you that your posts are annoying as
hell, although they contain links to some really great photos that
would do well in speaking for themselves, without any hype via
nauseating cutesy usenet posts or subject lines.

I further advise you to take your references to specific photographic
gear, and all of your exclamation marks, and violently cram them up
your goddamn ugly, diseased, attention-whore ass until you shit blood
for weeks.

HAND.

--
YOP...

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