Friday, March 13, 2009

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rec.photo.digital - 25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

rec.photo.digital
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* I really miss Kodak Ektalure "G" paper! - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/039ba0e9c2e42cfb?hl=en
* Rechargable batteries - 7 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/0b45617abfbf5918?hl=en
* Olympus SLR boss says 12 MP is enough - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/7694b9e85e8630b7?hl=en
* Wish I'd said this...about a hundred times already - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/fd0d9f3a64f5d251?hl=en
* Christian Audigier Bikinis,Juicy Couture Bikinis,Ed hardy Bikinis and
Abercrombie and Fitch Bikinis - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/cc0a276a8fac87c7?hl=en
* Kodak z980 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/4c559353ce03702d?hl=en
* Anyone got video out working on Samsung NV series? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/4d12e53da67ef3e4?hl=en
* Field of view - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/4e2ddd5ce0344a1b?hl=en

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TOPIC: I really miss Kodak Ektalure "G" paper!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/039ba0e9c2e42cfb?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 6:23 am
From: "David Ruether"

<tmonego@wildblue.net> wrote in message news:e9930d13-5789-4323-88c3-7d602768b6ee@t7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
On Mar 12, 9:35 am, "Darrell A. Larose" <ad...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> I really miss Kodak Ektalure "G" paper! I printed a lot of stuff on it, it
> was just a nice portrait paper, slightly warm (Ivory) base and a warm tone.
> Does anyone here have an inkjet match for it?
>
> Darrell Larose
> Photo Technician

For an Inkjet printer try Epson Semi Matte, much flatter than Luster,
work on your toning skills in Photoshop and you will have close to a G
surface.
For David, after years of not being able to use anything but a matte
paper with pigment inkjets there is a definite push against glossy
papers, the main argument being too much glare. After not being able
to put a darkroom in where I live now, I have been revitalized by the
current quality of upper end pigment inkjet printers and the new
baryta papers. Two especially are very close to air dried Ilford
Fiberbased gloss. Ilford Gold Fiber Silk, slightly warm and Hahnemuhle
Photo Rag Baryta which is neutral.

Tom

--Thanks for the advice.
--
--DR


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 6:39 am
From: "David Ruether"

"George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:C5DEDF26.247F6%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
> On 3/12/09 3:08 PM, in article gpbq3q$j5o$1@ruby.cit.cornell.edu, "David
> Ruether" <d_ruether@thotmail.com> wrote:

>> ....if one starts with neutral coloring and the best possible
>> blacks and whites in a print paper, one can then do anything else.
>> Anything less than that is very limiting... (which is not to say that I did
>> not start out with a warm-toned "silk"-surfaced paper when I began
>> making paper prints ever so ridiculously long ago - and two of them are
>> [embarrassingly] in the collection of the Museum of Modern Art... 8^).
>> --DR

> I dunno about all of that, but one paper that most people hated when I was
> working at a "Camera Store" in the late 70's was called "E" surface. It had
> a raised surface resembling a fine 'mesh', much like a screen on a window.
> It was universally hated by my customers, but Kodak was using it, I guess to
> make copies of the prints more difficult, since the irregular surface
> produced myriad of reflections.

Yup, that was the surface I used, but made by Luminos...8^(
I also likely over washed those prints - so now metallic silver
has probably migrated to the paper surface, spoiling them
even further, sigh...! I liked the Luminos E surface at the time
for the deep blacks without the need for a high gloss to get
them. Much better papers arrived later, though...
--DR

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TOPIC: Rechargable batteries
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/0b45617abfbf5918?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 6:58 am
From: "J. Clarke"


Stormin Mormon wrote:
> They used to be found at walmart near me. But, no longer.
> Wonder if any of the other stores around me have them?

Having been unable to find them locally I finally ordered off of Amazon.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 7:44 am
From: Dave Cohen


Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I caught a typo:
>
> "Holds charge better than any other rechargeable over time,
> even when sitting idol in a device. "
>
> Buddha batteries? But.... it passed the spell checker!
>
Spell checkers check spelling, not context in which words are used.
Dave Cohen


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 7:49 am
From: Dave Cohen


J. Clarke wrote:
> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>> They used to be found at walmart near me. But, no longer.
>> Wonder if any of the other stores around me have them?
>
> Having been unable to find them locally I finally ordered off of Amazon.

Ritz camera carried them the last time I checked. I have them and they
are very good, but I'm having what seems to be equally long life storage
from Kodak pre-charged. Be careful, the package must say pre-charged,
they also have normal NiMH in a very similar package. Walmart should
carry these.
Dave Cohen


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 7:57 am
From: Robert Sneddon


In message <Yzoul.6324$Lc7.2772@text.news.virginmedia.com>, David J
Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this.co.uk> writes

>A disadvantage which Sanyo eneloops appear to have overcome - and they
>seem to last longer in my GPS that high-capacity NiMH cells....

There are several different low-discharge NiMH batteries on the market
which seem to use the same technology -- Sanyo's Eneloop as mentioned,
Uniroos Hybrio and Panasonic Infinium. They all cost about the same and
do the same job, and come ready-charged out of the pack. I've got
Eneloop AAs, Hybrio AAs and also a set of Hybrio AAAs.

Anecdotally, I've had a pair of the Hybrio AAA cells in some
noise-cancelling headphones for several months, not actually using them
in noise-cancel mode much. They still have a good charge in them even
after that length of time. The other AAA rechargeables I have kicking
around tended to drain in storage after a few weeks to the point where
they required a recharge. I haven't used my camera (Canon A640) much
recently but it's been months since I recharged or swapped out the AA
Eneloops it's currently got fitted. I just checked it and it's ready to
shoot, no low-battery warning.
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== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 9:26 am
From: Ron Hunter


Dave Cohen wrote:
> J. Clarke wrote:
>> Stormin Mormon wrote:
>>> They used to be found at walmart near me. But, no longer.
>>> Wonder if any of the other stores around me have them?
>> Having been unable to find them locally I finally ordered off of Amazon.
>
> Ritz camera carried them the last time I checked. I have them and they
> are very good, but I'm having what seems to be equally long life storage
> from Kodak pre-charged. Be careful, the package must say pre-charged,
> they also have normal NiMH in a very similar package. Walmart should
> carry these.
> Dave Cohen
I suspect that the Kodak ones are simply rebranded ones from Panasonic,
or someone similar. Eneloop type batteries are ideal for the way I use
my digital camera.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 9:28 am
From: Ron Hunter


Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I'm wondering if it's a bad charger. For a test, I'm trying
> my other one. I'd been using a Battery Manager Ultra, and
> now using a Sanyo wall box gadget, that's designed for nicad
> and nimmie cells.
>
> Yes, the camera has a setting choice, either for Oxyride, or
> for akaline / NiMH cells. I don't know why alkalines and
> nimmies are the same setting.
>
> Trying not to pay a buck a battery for single use cells.
> Then I'm back to the old film days when I have to think hard
> about every shot, if I want it or not. With rechargables, I
> can pop all the pictures I want.
>
I keep lithium batteries for backup. They last for about 300 shots, and
with 12 for $20, that works out to about three cents/shot. I can handle
that.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 9:58 am
From: "Paul"

"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gpdl3c$4kn$1@news.motzarella.org...
> They used to be found at walmart near me. But, no longer.
> Wonder if any of the other stores around me have them?
>
> --
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> .
>
>
> "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gpbtup$tms$1@news.motzarella.org...
>
> The Eneloops are VERY good ... worth looking into.
>
I bought mine at Costco. I like them.

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TOPIC: Olympus SLR boss says 12 MP is enough
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/7694b9e85e8630b7?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 7:23 am
From: Mark Thomas


bugbear wrote:
> rpd wrote:
>> Watanabe also thinks that SLR focusing is set to change. Instead of
>> having a separate focus module as is done today, he predicts that soon
>> systems using the image sensor will take over. Right now, this method
>> is used by compact cameras and SLRs in live view mode. As you may have
>> noticed, it's slow. Watanabe thinks that it will soon be a lot faster.
>
> What is the reason for the slowness?
>
> Video mode shows that the main sensor can be read
> at 30 frames per second, so focusing
> ought to be possible with roughly
> that degree of lag.
>
> I assume that there's something I don't know about
> holding it back - anyone have knowledge?
>
> BugBear

I understand (but am not totally convinced it is irreconcilable..) it is
simply because with contrast detection, the camera's af doesn't know
which way, or how much it has to re-focus, so it tries one way, dang,
then the other to look for improved contrast. Whereas phase detect
'knows' which way to go and also how far..


It seems to me a little intelligence could be applied to the problem,
and in fact the G1 already seems to get pretty kind comments about its
focus speed. I think this issue is gradually on its way out.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 11:09 am
From: SMS


Alfred Molon wrote:
> In article <bDhul.15595$as4.13825@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, SMS says...
>
>> The Nikon APS-C sensor is 64% larger than the 4:3 sensor. The Canon
>> APS-C sensor is 46% larger than the 4:3 sensor.
>
> But it's not two, four or ten times larger - just a bit larger.

"A bit" would be like the difference between Canon's APS-C sensor and
Nikon's APS-C sensor. The Nikon is a "a bit" larger.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 11:54 am
From: Alan Browne


Markus Fuenfrocken wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> http://www.aliasimages.com/images/Cynthia-20090210-0191FS.jpg
>> says you and Watanabe are full of crap.
> Woah that looks really bad! I really looks like a good 12 MP image
> upsized to 24 MP. Look at the hairs. Mushy details all over.
> Wanna see a sharp high MP picture on pixel level?
> http://www.eliassegui.com/paloma02.jpg

Puh-leaze. I can't laugh this hard. It hurts.

Look at the pupil of your models eye: soft detail. Look at mine.
Crisp. Blood vessels, etc.

Really. And at all that I underexposed by a stop and corrected in ACR.


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== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:22 pm
From: "David J. Littleboy"

"Michael Benveniste" <mhb@murkyether.com> wrote:
> "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote:
>
>>So I expect that the 12-24 won't fly on a 48MP camera, but that the new 17
>>and 24TSEs, the 50/1.4 (stopped down), and the 70-200/4.0 IS will.
>
> Fly? Quite possibly, but physical limits will prevent you from
> achieving the resolutions you claimed.

I think you misunderstand what I would want from a 48MP 24x35mm sensor and
expect I would get.

All I want is similar sharpness at the pixel level to what I've been
seeing up to now. And that means MTF50 at about 70% of Nyquist, which
produces very nice images on every dcam I've owned up to now.

I really don't expect the world to come to a complete end if the sensor
resolution increases by 1.5 times over what I have now. Again, with 21MP,
images are excellent at f/11, almost imperceptibly less so at f/16, and so
there's no reason not to expect f/8 to be similarly excellent at the pixel
level on a 48MP sensor.

>>> The Zeiss claim is based on a detection level MTF of 2%, not an
>>> MTF 50. That's useful for interpretation of surveillance photos,
>>> but not really for "most applications most customers need."
>>
>>The image in question was of a clock tower, and they argued that it was
>>nice
>>to resolve the numbers on the clock. That's pictorial photography...
>
> As you say. Without see the picture nor any reference to it, it's
> impossible for me to disagree. But with a 24MP dSLR, Zeiss's own
> engineers were only to achieve a 10% MTF at 100 lp/mm, much less
> 200 lp/mm. See: http://snipurl.com/8xdr7 [Zeiss.com] (PDF).

Looks interesting. Thanks for the link.

>>But I'm surprised he had so much trouble. TMX100 claims to be well over
>>50%
>>MTF at 100 lp/mm. Shoot at f/8 (MTF50 at 100 lp/mm), and he should have
>>been
>>home free to at least 15% contrast on the film, at least in the center.
>
> You shouldn't be. The f/8 diffraction limit for a 30% MTF is about
> 155 lp/mm. By the Higgens formula, to achieve 100 lp/mm at 15% you'd
> need a film with a MTF 50 of about 130 lp/mm. Kodak only claims 125
> lp/mm for TMax 100. So under perfect conditions and with perfect
> processing, it's barely possible.

So shoot at f/5.6. That may require that one use a better/more expensive
lens, though.

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Tokyo, Japan

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:26 pm
From: Alfred Molon


In article <gpd7vl$aqs$1@online.de>, Markus Fuenfrocken says...
> Alan Browne wrote:
> > http://www.aliasimages.com/images/Cynthia-20090210-0191FS.jpg
> > says you and Watanabe are full of crap.
> Woah that looks really bad! I really looks like a good 12 MP image upsized
> to 24 MP. Look at the hairs. Mushy details all over.
> Wanna see a sharp high MP picture on pixel level?
> http://www.eliassegui.com/paloma02.jpg

Huh? Look at the eyes of both girls. There is not much visible
difference in terms of resolution.
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TOPIC: Wish I'd said this...about a hundred times already
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/fd0d9f3a64f5d251?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 8:09 am
From: "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios"

? "John A." <john@nowhere.invalid> ?????? ??? ??????
news:kgkjr4dslmdne3uevc8aidhb92sm2fks2q@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:50:14 -0400, Paul Arthur
> <flowerysong00@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2009-03-13, John A <john@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 13 Mar 2009 00:58:55 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Jeremy Nixon <~$!~( )@( )u.defocus.net>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Don't tell my Nikon D80, doesn't know that it doesn't have a shutter
>>>>>> speed dial.
>>>>
>>>>> What I find most sad is that people seem to have forgotten what a
>>>>> shutter
>>>>> speed dial *is*.
>>>>
>>>>How do you feel about these new fangled electric keyboard thingies you
>>>>have to type on when writing to the newsgroup? Not quite the same as
>>>>the real old thing, are they?
>>>
>>> You can still get IBM model M style keyboards, actually. Unicomp makes
>>> them now.
>>
>>That's still an electronic keyboard. Buckling springs does not a
>>mechanical keyboard make.
>
> True enough. How about these alternatives, then:
> http://www.multipledigression.com/type/
> http://www.ahleman.com/ElectriClerk.html
And how about a japanese typewriter?
http://www.jpo.go.jp/seido_e/rekishi_e/kyota_sugimoto.htm
Now, to type japanese, all you need is an ordinary PC, with win XP. XP
includes japanese support... I never got the hang of typewriters, my small
fingers were always too weak to type (touch type).


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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 10:06 am
From: nospam


In article <71ujicFn5jjjU1@mid.individual.net>, Jeremy Nixon < )@(>
wrote:

> > Again, the meter reads 1/3 stop increments, so I can't set the meter
> > reading
> > in the camera.
>
> You know what's interesting, is that the digital camera's meter only
> gives you 1/3 stop increments. My film camera's light meter is infinitely
> variable, and the shutter speed is, too, in automatic mode. So you get
> *more* precision there. Why live with only 1/3 stop increments?

the 1/3 (or 1/2) stop increment is only when using the control wheel.
in automatic mode, shutter speed and aperture (and iso with auto-iso)
are infinitely variable.

> The aperture ring is infinitely variable, too, not limited to 1/3 stops.
> I never actually take advantage of this feature, but it's there.

good luck trying to adjust the ring on the lens in between the click
stops.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 11:52 am
From: Savageduck


On 2009-03-13 08:09:56 -0700, "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios" <noone@nospam.com> said:

>
> ? "John A." <john@nowhere.invalid> ?????? ??? ??????
> news:kgkjr4dslmdne3uevc8aidhb92sm2fks2q@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:50:14 -0400, Paul Arthur
>> <flowerysong00@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-03-13, John A <john@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 13 Mar 2009 00:58:55 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Jeremy Nixon <~$!~( )@( )u.defocus.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> J?rgen Exner <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't tell my Nikon D80, doesn't know that it doesn't have a shutter
>>>>>>> speed dial.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What I find most sad is that people seem to have forgotten what a
>>>>>> shutter
>>>>>> speed dial *is*.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you feel about these new fangled electric keyboard thingies you
>>>>> have to type on when writing to the newsgroup? Not quite the same as
>>>>> the real old thing, are they?
>>>>
>>>> You can still get IBM model M style keyboards, actually. Unicomp makes
>>>> them now.
>>>
>>> That's still an electronic keyboard. Buckling springs does not a
>>> mechanical keyboard make.
>>
>> True enough. How about these alternatives, then:
>> http://www.multipledigression.com/type/
>> http://www.ahleman.com/ElectriClerk.html
> And how about a japanese typewriter?
> http://www.jpo.go.jp/seido_e/rekishi_e/kyota_sugimoto.htm
> Now, to type japanese, all you need is an ordinary PC, with win XP. XP
> includes japanese support... I never got the hang of typewriters, my small
> fingers were always too weak to type (touch type).

Then there is always this concept:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/apple_introduces_revolutionary
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 9:24 am
From: ray


Got an e-mail today from Kodak pointing me to the new Z980. Upon closer
investigation, I find it has a 24x (26-624 35mm equiv) zoom, has a second
shutter releas button for easier side hold photos, captures RAW as well
as jpeg. Captures video at 1280x720 at 30 fps. It's a 12mp camera. Would
be interesting to see one.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:51 pm
From: "pupick"


The specs and price on this camera are intriguing.
Unfortunately Kodak cameras have earned every bit of their reputations for
dubious quality.
However at what will likely be a $300 street price what have you got to
lose?


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TOPIC: Anyone got video out working on Samsung NV series?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/4d12e53da67ef3e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 11:20 am
From: blackhead


I have a Samsung NV30 digital camera, but I guess all the NV series
have the video function out using the supplied AV cable.

I've selected the PAL rather than NTSC option since I'm in the UK. I
connect the camer's USB port to the TV digital inputs using the yellow
cable for the video and white for the audio. But I don't get anything
on the screen of the TV and the LCD of the camera just goes blank,
with the power still on.

Has anyone used the AV cable supplied with an NV model successfully?

Thanks.


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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 12:42 pm
From: ASAAR


On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:49:51 GMT, David J Taylor wrote:

>> Does it matter with less than 100% accurate viewfinders? Most
>> cameras are used for taking pictures, not for surveying. :)
>
> I rather suspect that anyone who wants to calculate the FoV has more idea
> than "most people". I am grateful that we do not get the same advertising
> as you, it would likely put me off buying /anything/! For the sensor
> sizes, DP Review is one sourse:
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond60/page2.asp
>
> where the D60 is given as 23.6 x 15.8 mm, so it's not that difficult to
> find out. It's what appears on the final image, not in the viewfinder
> which matters.

We seem to be talking past each other. Sure, those that are
*really* interested in photography are likely to be able to find
sensor dimensions with little effort. Your last sentence above
seems little more than a non sequitur truism. If what you see in
the viewfinder is less than what you get (for most DSLRs), and isn't
a concern, then why be concerned about the inaccuracy of using 1.5
as the crop factor for Nikon's DSLRs? It also promises a little
less than you actually get, and the difference is trivially small.
The advantage of using crop factors is that they only require simple
math. Telling photographers that they should use arctangents
instead violates the KISS principle but might be useful in that it's
likely to convince many to avoid asking you for further help. :)

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:29 pm
From: Alfred Molon


In article <8Zqul.6383$Lc7.482@text.news.virginmedia.com>, David J
Taylor says...
> David J Taylor wrote:
> []
> > For the sensor sizes, DP Review is one sourse:
>
> Argh: s/sourse/source/

Never mind. Today a colleague "corrected" one of my slides in a ppt
presentation. He replaced "licence" with "lisence", not just on one
page, but on several pages. I sent him a link to an online dictionary.
--

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------------------------
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:13 pm
From: "J. Clarke"


Alfred Molon wrote:
> In article <8Zqul.6383$Lc7.482@text.news.virginmedia.com>, David J
> Taylor says...
>> David J Taylor wrote:
>> []
>>> For the sensor sizes, DP Review is one sourse:
>>
>> Argh: s/sourse/source/
>
> Never mind. Today a colleague "corrected" one of my slides in a ppt
> presentation. He replaced "licence" with "lisence", not just on one
> page, but on several pages. I sent him a link to an online dictionary.

What's truly sad is that Google has more than 4 million hits on "lisence".


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 4:26 pm
From: "David J Taylor"


ASAAR wrote:
[]
> We seem to be talking past each other. Sure, those that are
> *really* interested in photography are likely to be able to find
> sensor dimensions with little effort. Your last sentence above
> seems little more than a non sequitur truism. If what you see in
> the viewfinder is less than what you get (for most DSLRs), and isn't
> a concern, then why be concerned about the inaccuracy of using 1.5
> as the crop factor for Nikon's DSLRs? It also promises a little
> less than you actually get, and the difference is trivially small.
> The advantage of using crop factors is that they only require simple
> math. Telling photographers that they should use arctangents
> instead violates the KISS principle but might be useful in that it's
> likely to convince many to avoid asking you for further help. :)

My feeling is that someone who wants to calculate the FoV wants an exact,
and not an approximate, answer. Calculation was the OP's requirement.

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Today's topics:

* Vista question - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/34cc9806968b8916?hl=en
* Printing Options - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/8d98f06f847dc4f1?hl=en
* CMYK color profiles for China - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/635f213fe70015aa?hl=en
* Bridge CS4 To Defualt 32 Bit Photoshop - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/5efa7a57631fc84a?hl=en
* Can't use liquify within a photoshop action?? - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/fa17b24b979f84b8?hl=en
* offline help - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/0ac31d02eed0c320?hl=en
* CS4 Importing Collada Models Broken? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/30d368243ae9370d?hl=en
* sketchup .dae import to cs4 - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a72afa9f2db97876?hl=en
* CS3 Easter Egg - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/c638d72438a897ec?hl=en
* CS4 large file very slow load - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/04256ecf1614ad4c?hl=en
* Banding problems... why? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/563277af2e580145?hl=en

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TOPIC: Vista question
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/34cc9806968b8916?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:09 pm
From: "John Joslin"


Vista 64 here too, and I don't recall changing the default behaviour for pop-ups.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:26 pm
From: Russell_Proulx@adobeforums.com


Correction: I checked some other files such as :

Adobe DNG Converter.exe
ExtendScript Toolkit.exe
AdobeOwl.dll
adobe_eula.dll

and thay all have the file version and company listed in the details pane as well as in any pop-up (when that feature is enabled).

But so far I cannot find any plugins that display version info.

I see that Genuine Fractals includes a "version.txt' file with the version info.

Perhaps it's a limitation of the plugin format? Or do you really see the version details of Camera Raw.8bi and other plugins ?

Thanks for helping John. I know this isn't a WindowsOS forum. But it relates to updates that Adobe releases which apparently don't include embedded version info that's visible to folks using Vista. I don't assume this isn't going to change with Windows7.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:05 pm
From: "John Joslin"


Right, I just checked the ACR plug-in and it doesn't give version number. Only the date gives a clue.

I know this isn't a Windows OS forum.


Was it you in the NT forums a few years back?


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:18 pm
From: Russell_Proulx@adobeforums.com


Right, I just checked the ACR plug-in and it doesn't give version number.
Only the date gives a clue.


Thanks :-) I at least know now that I'm not missing something.

Was it you in the NT forums a few years back?


Can't remember that. Do you mean an NT newsgroup? I've posted questions in newsgroups once in a while over the years, though I find the activity there a lot less then a years ago. Mostly relaced with web forums.

Didn't know Adobe had an NT forum..

Might have been on Compuserve (in the real old days).

:-)


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:35 pm
From: "John Joslin"


That's what I meant, Compuserve. I guess it was in the early/mid-90s.

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TOPIC: Printing Options
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/8d98f06f847dc4f1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:12 pm
From: "John Joslin"


Bridge Output module is suppose to replace it (under the PDF section) but you can also install the old legacy Picture Package from the Goodies folder on the installation disk.

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TOPIC: CMYK color profiles for China
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/635f213fe70015aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:27 pm
From: Ho


Ah, same resolution for all files. Got it. :)

As far as your CMYK issue, I think I'd hesitate to run any job at a shop where I couldn't communicate with the staff. Are you tied to this particular printer for some reason?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:39 pm
From: Gener@adobeforums.com


The Color Management forum deals more with international commercial print standards. They might be able to help you answer this one.

<http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?14@@.eea5b31>

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TOPIC: Bridge CS4 To Defualt 32 Bit Photoshop
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:39 pm
From: DR@adobeforums.com


I think it would be nice if the File Type Associations in Bridge actually DID something! ;)

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TOPIC: Can't use liquify within a photoshop action??
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/fa17b24b979f84b8?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 1:53 pm
From: Marvinzzz@adobeforums.com


Hey guys,
Using CS3.
Made quite a long action with around 5 or so liquify distortions. When I got to run the action, it loads the liquify screen but then just stops and waits until I manually do some work and press enter or cancel. Pressing cancel brings me back to the canvas and the action stops.

Is there anyway I can force or otherwise PS to remember what I did during my edits from the liquified screen? Is this what the 'save mesh' command is for within the liquify tool? Am I doing something stupid? Please help as I really need to get liquifying recorded!
Thanks,
marv.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:02 pm
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com


Yes, save mesh will remember the distortions you made. The canvas size must be the same size in order for it to make the same distortion, although the resolution can be different. In other words, you could liquify on a low resolution version of your image, save the mesh, then load that mesh on a high resolution version of that same image or image of identical size.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:16 pm
From: Marvinzzz@adobeforums.com


Thanks a lot PeterK. Sounds like quite a bit of work to get the mesh the same size :/
Do you have a link which explains saving & reusing meshes per chance? I couldn't much about it on G.
M.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:20 pm
From: Marvinzzz@adobeforums.com


Also Peter, do you know if the action can automatically load, execute and then return the result to the canvas? I don't want to turn into a complete monkey!


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:31 pm
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com


I think you misunderstood me. You can use the mesh on images of the same size but different resolutions, but you don't have to if you don't want to. Simply do your distortions, save the mesh, then load it for any image of the same size and all your distortions will be applied. Note that if you go into and out of liquify, the mesh will not remember the distortions you made in previous liquify adjustments. Any mesh you save will only remember the distortions you applied within that current instance of the filter.
I don't know how liquify may interact with an action, so you'll have to test that yourself.

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TOPIC: offline help
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/0ac31d02eed0c320?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:23 pm
From: cbminfo@adobeforums.com


I don't want to be online. The modem drags the machine down with being overloaded.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:39 pm
From: John_T_Smith@adobeforums.com


I don't know about "help" files, but I do know that every Adobe product I own has, either on the disc (CD or DVD) or someplease on Adobe's site for that product (you will have to look) a full copy of the user guide as a PDF

Go to the product support pages for each product (not here, this is a discussion forum) and click around until you find the link to the PDF

For Acrobat (current version) that is
<http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/acrobatpro/>

At the top-left look for
Using Acrobat 9 Pro
Provides regularly updated and comprehensive task-based information.
LiveDocs | PDF

You of course click on the PDF link... right click and choose the save option to save to your hard drive

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TOPIC: CS4 Importing Collada Models Broken?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:31 pm
From: steve_guilhamet@adobeforums.com


Hi Andrew,

Sorry for the late reply on this. You are indeed likely seeing a known limitation importing Collada files with CS4. The workaround is to go to the Materials section of the 3D panel and check the Opacity settings; move them from 0% to see the model.

regards,
steve

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TOPIC: sketchup .dae import to cs4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a72afa9f2db97876?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:56 pm
From: BluNos@adobeforums.com


hi again steve,
well i got it working a lot better now, the rest of settings will have to be done before i import it to cs4. want to thank you again for your help, don't think i would have ever found the materials panel if you had not said to go there. thanks again and keep up the GREAT work
BluNos


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 2:57 pm
From: steve_guilhamet@adobeforums.com


Hi BluNos :-),

I think you're hitting an import limitation stemming from a format specification change. I'm looking for Adobe documentation on the subject.

After you import the DAE and then set the material Opacity to 100%, go to 3D> Export 3D Layer... Save this out as a DAE. Now see if this imports with Opacity at 100%.

For the texture wrapping (picture on shape), this is controlled by the UV mapping and setup is very dependent on the shape of the model and what you want to accomplish. The canned presets have been mapped using a 3D modeler. For some more background on Ps usage try this link:
<http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS0BA787A7-E4AC-4183-8AB7-55440C51F95B.html#WSE3192200-39B6-4703-87D9-AA0C75E47258>

Thanks for the schooner info. Now I know the name of the ship on the Canadian dime.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:43 pm
From: BluNos@adobeforums.com


hi steve
did as you asked, saved as .dae to folder on desktop, opened it from there and it did open with 100% capacity, also opened it from cs4 under file\open and again it opened at 100%.does adobe have any more presets that i can download? and yes ill got to that link
thanks again
BluNos

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TOPIC: CS3 Easter Egg
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:42 pm
From: "Phos±four dots"


In fact, see if you can record the conversation and post it as an MP3.

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:57 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com


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TOPIC: CS4 large file very slow load
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/04256ecf1614ad4c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:51 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com


"When the index is running, it generally won't affect your computer's performance. When you make changes to files, however, the index quickly updates those changes, momentarily putting a small additional load on your computer's resources"

Copied this from the windows help site. According to what is indexed: pictures are one of them.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:56 pm
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com


I have modified my index search to just the start menu.

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TOPIC: Banding problems... why?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/563277af2e580145?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 3:56 pm
From: "pupick"


Without having any idea what you are seeing:
Some processing steps/filters add banding that is more prominent in some
images than others.
If the image originated as a jpeg and has banding I don't what can be done
about it.
A freshly opened raw image should not have banding, barring some major
camera problem, so the banding has to have been added somewhere in your
processing steps.

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