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hoi maria

ik denk dat je het even het engels moet doen

volgens mij waren dit engelse beheerders

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rec.photo.digital - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: It's just wrong
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/06e32c9cd78fc6f1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:00 am
From: George Kerby

On 5/19/09 5:10 PM, in article
4a132e6e$0$4890$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com, "Bowser" <up@gone.now>
wrote:

>
> "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C6381D93.2AA3D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/18/09 8:45 AM, in article EDdQl.283$X6.35@bos-service2b.ext.ray.com,
>> "Bowser" <over@the.rainbow> wrote:
>>
>>> George Kerby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/17/09 7:02 PM, in article
>>>> 4a10a66b$0$4916$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com, "Bowser" <up@gone.now>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it's me, but there's something just wrong with this statue in
>>>>> front of
>>>>> the library in Beaufort, SC.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.manzi.org/pix/wrong.jpg
>>>>>
>>>> If it were in NORTH Carolina, would it take on another connotation for
>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I posted this image, I did so to see what type of reaction it
>>> provoked. I offered no opinion of my own. None. Despite that, a number
>>> of posters have injected many meanings, and have assumed that I offered
>>> some meaning in my original post. I did not. I posted merely to provoke
>>> and see what happened. And look what happened!
>> I was playing "P.C." with the North vs. South thing, but DO look what
>> happened!
>>
>> "Ladies and germs, we have a WIN-NAH!"
>
> OK, look, we all know that the northerners hate the southerners, but I bet
> you don't know why. Barbeque. You simply can't get good barbeque up north,
> and I don't think that's a coincidence at all. It's a GD barbeque
> conspiracy, that's what it is! Once you've had the pulled pork at Charlie
> and Jakes or Meemaws in Melbourne, FL, anything up north is simply sub-par.
> People up here throw some chicken on the grill, slap on some sugar-sauce,
> and call it barbeque. It ain't...
>
I'll have to remember that next time I'm in FL.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:39 am
From: Robert Coe

On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:10:25 -0400, "Bowser" <up@gone.now> wrote:
:
: "George Kerby" <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in message
: news:C6381D93.2AA3D%ghost_topper@hotmail.com...
: >
: >
: >
: > On 5/18/09 8:45 AM, in article EDdQl.283$X6.35@bos-service2b.ext.ray.com,
: > "Bowser" <over@the.rainbow> wrote:
: >
: >> George Kerby wrote:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> On 5/17/09 7:02 PM, in article
: >>> 4a10a66b$0$4916$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com, "Bowser" <up@gone.now>
: >>> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Maybe it's me, but there's something just wrong with this statue in
: >>>> front of
: >>>> the library in Beaufort, SC.
: >>>>
: >>>> http://www.manzi.org/pix/wrong.jpg
: >>>>
: >>> If it were in NORTH Carolina, would it take on another connotation for
: >>> you?
: >>>
: >>
: >> When I posted this image, I did so to see what type of reaction it
: >> provoked. I offered no opinion of my own. None. Despite that, a number
: >> of posters have injected many meanings, and have assumed that I offered
: >> some meaning in my original post. I did not. I posted merely to provoke
: >> and see what happened. And look what happened!
: > I was playing "P.C." with the North vs. South thing, but DO look what
: > happened!
: >
: > "Ladies and germs, we have a WIN-NAH!"
:
: OK, look, we all know that the northerners hate the southerners, but I bet
: you don't know why. Barbeque. You simply can't get good barbeque up north,
: and I don't think that's a coincidence at all. It's a GD barbeque
: conspiracy, that's what it is! Once you've had the pulled pork at Charlie
: and Jakes or Meemaws in Melbourne, FL, anything up north is simply sub-par.
: People up here throw some chicken on the grill, slap on some sugar-sauce,
: and call it barbeque. It ain't...

Well, most southerners would spell it "barbecue" (or in large signs, possibly
"Bar-B-Q"), but your point is well taken.

FWIW, I've managed to read most of this thread (an act of largely unjustifed
diligence) and have been surprised that no one seems to have directly
mentioned the statue's most obvious allusion: The older girl is white, and the
younger one is black, and there are those (I'm one of them) who grew up in the
south and can remember when the two girls would not have been allowed to use
the same drinking fountain in South Carolina. (I actually grew up in
Mississippi, but the situation was the same.) The statue evidently celebrates
the fact that we've put those times behind us.

Bob

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TOPIC: Easy way to check 2 similar cameras please
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/b2908e8d2cba22a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:17 am
From: Marvin

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Marvin <physchem@verizon.net>
> saying something like:
>
>> So you are looking for someone to abet your deceptive
>> practice!
>
> What deceptive practice?
> You fucking moron.

His question asked how easy it would be to detect his
amateur repair if he sold it on e-bay. That is deception.

I'll ignore your sophomoric and rude characterization of
someone you don't even know.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:24 am
From: Marvin

Rob G wrote:
> On 23 May, 08:19, Bob Williams <mytbobnos...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Rob G wrote:
>>> I've got two Panasonic FX01's. OK it's a basic P & S, but not too bad
>>> a one for the price I've paid.
>>> Why 2 and why the question?
>>> The screen on my first got broken. I bought a second off Ebay for an
>>> acceptable price mainly because it was cheap, I'm familiar with the
>>> camera and didn't particularly want to go through the 'analysing
>>> what's best for me' process again. I also then went ahead and replaced
>>> the screen on the first, partly to satisfy the challenge of being able
>>> to do so. That was successful. So I've now got 2 identical working
>>> cameras.
>>> But there will be differences and before I pop of one of them back
>>> onto Ebay, is it likely these differences will be detectable and how
>>> easy to find ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Rob
>> First of all, the test conditions must be identical and reproducible.
>> I suggest using a tripod and using the time delay (10 seconds?) to trip
>> the shutter.
>> Set both cameras on Program AE, Same ISO, Fine Quality, etc.
>> Choose a camera-to-subject distance of about 15 feet.
>> As your subject, use a page from a quality magazine with several font
>> sizes of text and some color pictures.
>> Take several pictures with each camera at wide, normal and max tele
>> focal lengths.
>> When you display the images on your computer, you will find that your
>> eyes are exquisitely sensitive to the clarity of text.
>> If the text sizes are chosen correctly, you should BARELY be able to
>> read the words taken with the best camera. With the poorer camera, you
>> will be able to read much less of the text.
>> Compare the accuracy of the colors on both cameras vs your original
>> magazine page.
>> Bob Williams
>> P.S.
>> Make sure that the sky is clear so clouds will not drift over the sun
>> during the test process.
>
> Many thanks Bob - that's the guidance I was looking for. It will be
> interesting to see if there is much difference.
>
> As for the rest of you (less Grimly C ) - I knew that this NG was
> suffering badly from spammers, but I hadn't realised it was also been
> taken over in parts by idiots.
>
> Firstly I said that I'd been successful in replacing the screen, try
> reading and understanding Ofnuts, and in terms of deceptive practice,
> what is the difference between replacing a screen in a camera and some
> broken part in a car you sell ?
> Rob

The fact that the camera was repaired, and not even by a
professional, should not be concealed. It affects the value
of the camera, which is probably why you don't want it
known. As for a car, turning back the odometer when you are
selling a car is illegal in most states.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:05 am
From: Ofnuts

Robert Coe wrote:

> On Fri, 22 May 2009 14:48:38 +0200, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s@la.poste.net> wrote:
> : Rob G wrote:
> : > I've got two Panasonic FX01's. OK it's a basic P & S, but not too bad
> : > a one for the price I've paid.
> : >
> : > Why 2 and why the question?
> : >
> : > The screen on my first got broken. I bought a second off Ebay for an
> : > acceptable price mainly because it was cheap, I'm familiar with the
> : > camera and didn't particularly want to go through the 'analysing
> : > what's best for me' process again. I also then went ahead and replaced
> : > the screen on the first, partly to satisfy the challenge of being able
> : > to do so. That was successful. So I've now got 2 identical working
> : > cameras.
> : >
> : > But there will be differences and before I pop of one of them back
> : > onto Ebay, is it likely these differences will be detectable and how
> : > easy to find ?
> :
> : Well, one of them has a broken screen...
>
> Didn't he just say he fixed it? ("I also then went ahead and replaced the
> screen on the first...")

Yes but I assume this is using the screen from the second one. No
mention of finding/purchasing a replacement screen anywhere in the post...

--
Bertrand

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TOPIC: P&S Revenue predicted to fall by 24%, D-SLR revenue predicted to fall
by 12%
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/13c7f45bc1c23aa1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:21 am
From: SMS

Charles wrote:
> "botox" <fac_187@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v0nRl.27038$c45.2489@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> The most significant issue is the likely disappearance of more venerable
>> brands: Pentax, Olympus.
>
> A significant market shakeout is due.

This is true. Sony, Pentax/Samsung, and Olympus/Panasonic are out their
fighting among themselves for the 15% of the market for D-SLRs not taken
by Canon and Nikon. Who will be the first one to say "uncle?" And do the
remaining ones think that they'll get all the sales from the ones that
leave?

One interesting thing is that the two market leaders do not have in-body
stabilization, while the other players do have it. So for those buyers
that want a cheap, though less effective, way to do stabilization, they
have to go to one of the second tier suppliers. But now Nikon and Canon
are doing IS lens bundles which lessen the appeal of the less effective
in-body stabilization.

The new Canon EOS Rebel T1i, is an amazing value, and does HD video
(albeit only at 20fps in full HD). That camera alone may drive one or
two of the low volume manufacturers out of the D-SLR business.

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TOPIC: Which format is best to save in
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/a844c0a0e183ad24?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:36 am
From: "boothmarcus@hotmail.com"

After taking pictures in RAW, then converting them so Photoshop CS2
can read them using Adobe DNG converter, & after adjusting them in
CS2, what is the best format to save them in ie JPEG, TIFF, PSD etc.

Thanxs in advance.

Marcus.

Using Sony A300, dslr

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:49 am
From: John Passaneau

boothmarcus@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> After taking pictures in RAW, then converting them so Photoshop CS2
> can read them using Adobe DNG converter, & after adjusting them in
> CS2, what is the best format to save them in ie JPEG, TIFF, PSD etc.
>
> Thanxs in advance.
>
> Marcus.
>
> Using Sony A300, dslr
TIFF, it's not lossy, universally readable, and recommended by Adobe.
You can save with or without layers. If you want to compress use ZIP
compression.

John Passaneau

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:16 am
From: me@mine.net

On Sat, 23 May 2009 09:36:48 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital
"boothmarcus@hotmail.com" <boothmarcus@hotmail.com> wrote:

>After taking pictures in RAW, then converting them so Photoshop CS2
>can read them using Adobe DNG converter, & after adjusting them in
>CS2, what is the best format to save them in ie JPEG, TIFF, PSD etc.

If you are making use of adjustment and other layers in CS2, I would think
PSD if you have any inkling you might need to further edit them in the
future.

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TOPIC: CF dying?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/2d949e57f899e814?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:55 am
From: Matt Ion

l v wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
> [snip]
>> I don't see this as a problem. First, most photographers have no use
>> for SD cards larger than 2GB, let alone 32GB. SEcond, those that do
>> can probably afford the new cards, readers, and computers to support
>> new standards. I believe my camera currently has a 512 meg card,
>> which can store about 400 pictures. I can't even imagine needing more
>> than the 1600 or so pictures I could put on the 2GB card my camera
>> will support, and my card reader will read. Certainly I wouldn't put
>> that may images on a single media of any type. Those with huge
>> cameras that make huge files can usually afford to keep up with
>> current technology.
>
> YMMV. A 512mb card holds approx 34 - 50 shots on my camera. It's 10MB
> camera and the sizes of the RAW images vary in size. A 2gb cards holds
> about 136 images.
>
> A huge camera does not necessary mean an expensive DSLR camera where the
> owner has deep pockets. 10MB pxl count is no longer a huge camera.

Let's not forget, P&S cameras have been pushing the megapixel count far
faster than DLSRs, and your average consumer has been led by marketing
to believe that more=better, so many just run out and buy the highest-MP
camera they can and the biggest memory card they can fit in it. Your
average Wal-Mart Photo Department employee or BestBuy salesdroid doesn't
know enough to ask in advance if the person has a card reader that will
support the bigger card, and even if they did, your average consumer
wouldn't know the answer to that question beyond, "Well it works fine
with my old camera."

Can they afford to upgrade their card readers? Sure... but as we've
seen time and time again with SDHC, most don't realize that they'll need
to, until they plug the new card into their old reader and get all
manner of error messages, if anything at all. Then they panic and post
vague "HELP IVE LOST ALL MY PHOTO'S" queries to all manner of web
forums, only to be met with all kinds of "have you tried this?"
questions and suggestions for recovery software, before someone (usually
me) finally thinks to ask if this is a >2GB card and an older card reader.

And sure, you can hold lots of JPEGs on a relatively small card...
especially if you're a n00b shooting in some fully-auto mode that
defaults to small or low-quality JPEGs... but you wouldn't believe how
many times I've run into people who never actually think to delete
pictures off the card once they've loaded them on the computer, shooting
happily away for weeks or months until the card is full... of course,
that happens when they're out and about and away from their computer and
card reader, so then it's either format and lose everything, or go
through slowly and delete the old photos one at a time.

512MB-1GB may be lots for your basic "serious hobbyist" who thinks of
these things... but not for your "average digital camera consumer".

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:48 am
From: Ron Hunter

David J Taylor wrote:
> N wrote:
>> "David J Taylor"
>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.not-this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid> wrote
>> in message news:pGMRl.32636$OO7.9145@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> I'd also like to see independent measurements of failure rates of
>>> different brands and capacities of both CF and SD cards. Fat chance!
>>>
>>> David
>> Would this do?
>> http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007
>
> Thanks, but no. No reliability figures as far as I could see.
>
> David
Did you read all of the pages!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:39 am
From: "David J Taylor"

Ron Hunter wrote:
> David J Taylor wrote:
>> N wrote:
>>> "David J Taylor"
>>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.not-this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid> wrote
>>> in message news:pGMRl.32636$OO7.9145@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>>> I'd also like to see independent measurements of failure rates of
>>>> different brands and capacities of both CF and SD cards. Fat
>>>> chance! David
>>> Would this do?
>>> http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007
>>
>> Thanks, but no. No reliability figures as far as I could see.
>>
>> David
> Did you read all of the pages!

I looked through all 24 pages, and if there was a table showing
reliability versus make, style and size, I missed it! <G>

David

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TOPIC: Q: Strange copying error
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/a44d3c70f8909531?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 9:51 am
From: Robert Coe

On Tue, 19 May 2009 18:26:15 -0700 (PDT), Nicko <nervous.nick@gmail.com>
wrote:
: On May 17, 4:17 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
: > K.B. <kbl...@net.hr> wrote:
: > >Why to I get a "Cannot copy xxx. Parameter is incorrect." message when I
: > >try to copy shots from ExtemeIII CF? First it says that it takes about
: > >90 (???) minutes to copy then this message apperas.
: >
: > Maybe you should use a different pencil when you're copying.
: > Or upgrade to a pen.
: >
: > And the point of that is that when you don't say what you're copying,
: > how you're copying it, what version of which OS you might be using,
: > and what hardware you're using then you deserve the stupid answers
: > that you get.
:
: Indeed.
:
: But If I were to hazard a guess, I would say that the "Parameter" is
: "incorrect".

You'd be wrong. That's a fairly common Windows error message that almost never
means what it says.

Bob

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TOPIC: When Highlanders get Bored with their Sheep
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/bd918ce97f8a8d4b?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:24 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj

It's clean. :)

And funny.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1137883380?bctid=170756
85001

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:30 am
From: RicodJour

On May 23, 1:24 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj
>
> It's clean. :)
>
> And funny.
>
> http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1137883380?bctid=170756
> 85001

That is unbelievable! Most excellent.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:00 am
From: malch@malch.com (Malcolm Hoar)

In article <gv9bhl$hru$2@news.eternal-september.org>, "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj

Actually, they're Welsh (not Highlanders).

But it's a most excellent video, thanks.

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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:02 am
From: Alan Browne

On 23-05-09 13:24, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj
>
> It's clean. :)
>
> And funny.

Pretty old, that.

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== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:07 am
From: RicodJour

On May 23, 2:02 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca>
wrote:
> On 23-05-09 13:24, Stormin Mormon wrote:
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj
>
> > It's clean. :)
>
> > And funny.
>
> Pretty old, that.

There's nothing new about commenting that something is old.

If someone hadn't seen it before, like me, it's new.

More to the point, even if someone had seen it before, does it make it
any less remarkable?

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:58 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

I didn't know that. Sorry!

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"Malcolm Hoar" <malch@malch.com> wrote in message
news:gv9dk6ie0vk002malch@news.sonic.net...
In article <gv9bhl$hru$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj

Actually, they're Welsh (not Highlanders).

But it's a most excellent video, thanks.

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== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:57 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

I sat through it, not believing my eyes. I watched it all
through, and alternately amazed, and laughing.

--
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.

"RicodJour" <ricodjour@worldemail.com> wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/dfy7vj
>

That is unbelievable! Most excellent.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:50 am
From: Ron Hunter

tony cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2009 02:30:56 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Discipline in firearms usage is a vital part of training, unfortunately
>>>>> there are times when the individual officer(s) make tragic mistakes.
>>>> Yes, like a local officer who shot himself in the leg during a gun
>>>> safety demonstration. Sigh.
>>> a very good demonstration then....and a man who loves his job!
>> Just proves that one can always serve as a bad example. Grin.
>
> It is not just policemen who are hoisted on their own petard:
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479813,00.html
>
>
Perhaps they should forego that second gross glass bier.... Or the
lunch visit to the local inn.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 10:34 am
From: "J. Clarke"

tony cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 23 May 2009 02:30:56 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>> Discipline in firearms usage is a vital part of training,
>>>>> unfortunately there are times when the individual officer(s) make
>>>>> tragic mistakes.
>>>> Yes, like a local officer who shot himself in the leg during a gun
>>>> safety demonstration. Sigh.
>>>
>>> a very good demonstration then....and a man who loves his job!
>>
>> Just proves that one can always serve as a bad example. Grin.
>
> It is not just policemen who are hoisted on their own petard:
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479813,00.html

I'm sorry, but that article is _funny_. I find myself wondering if they
were using the same fire prevention manual as the Reichstag in 1933.

So much for the myth of German ubercompetence.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:22 am
From: "Miguel"

Hello:

I did some changes in this photo of the Geranium:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/3556520563/

Your comments about photography always are interesting.

--
Miguel M. Yalán
http://mmyv.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:37 am
From: Paul Furman

Savageduck wrote:
> Thomas T. Veldhouse said:
>> Alex Singleton wrote:
>>> C J Campbell said:
>>>
>>>> And, hey, the guy with the D3 was going to photo school. Seems sensible
>>>> enough to me.
>>>
>>> Indeed, and for all we know, his choice of a relatively cheap lens was
>>> that, with limited funds, he wanted to learn the D3's functons now, but
>>> wait until he's wealthier again before buying the range of lenses he's
>>> after.
>>>
>>> Though he might learn more quickly by buying a much cheaper camera and
>>> experimenting with some decent lenses...
>>
>> Bah ... it's his money and his mistake to make. Even if I had more
>> experience
>> than I do, I would choose the D700 ... but who wants to replace DX
>> lenses :-(
>
> It seems to me a D200 or D300 would do.
>
> ...and if you buy a D300 or D70 body, why would you need DX lenses. The
> only DX lens I own is the 18-70mm kit lens which came with my D70. My
> D300 & D70 currently share that kit lens as well as a 12-24mm,

Sigma 12-24? When I bought that for my D200, the salesman said, are you
sure you want that? It has turned out to be a nice lens, very useful.

> a 24-70mm
> f2.8, an 80-400mm VR, a 24-120mm VR, a 35m f2.0, a new 70-300mm VR, all
> non-DX. None of my subsequent lens purchases have been DX. Having said
> that, there will be an FX DSLR in my future, be it a D700 or its successor.

--
Paul Furman
www.edgehill.net
www.baynatives.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 23 2009 11:50 am
From: Paul Furman

John Navas wrote:
> On Mon, 18 May 2009 10:36:29 -0700, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net>
> wrote in <GVgQl.18624$D32.15838@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>:
>
>> Fred wrote:
>>> "eNo" <grandepatzer@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e6f02935-2bcf-40c9-bfe7-59c9bba06a01@k19g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>>> On May 15, 9:15 am, Antonio Huerta <ahue...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>>> Anyone could suggest a camera ? Thanks.
>>>> In terms of size, you are describing a small P&S, and I know none that
>>>> is quick to focus and/or shoot. DSLRs are the best for that, and among
>>>> them, probably the D40 is the best deal going right now. You might
>>>> want to also check out 4/3 format cameras and see if there's anything
>>>> out there right now with quick startup and focus/shoot times.
>>>
>>> Neither of these types fit the OP's original requirement of "I would like to
>>> be able
>>> to whip the camera out of my pocket", neither are they suitable as a carry
>>> everywhere
>>> camera for instant use in the street, unless you happen to be wearing a very
>>> large overcoat
>>> with deep pockets, not to mention that these cameras are rather indiscrete,
>>> making you stand
>>> out in the crowd like a "professional" photographer.
>> Maybe micro 4/3 will work for the OP?
>
> Your pockets must be *way* bigger than mine! ;)

I can jam a D700 in my coat pocket with a small lens <g>.

Did this not materialize:
http://www.photographion.com/micro-thirds-m43-camera-body-photos/
?

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www.baynatives.com

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