Monday, March 9, 2009

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Today's topics:

* More crap in binutils - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/59a8f1cf1708954f?hl=en
* binutils-2.19.51.0.2: configure: C compiler cannot create executables - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/d74d8b31a407ee80?hl=en
* trying to avoid printing binary files to STDOUT - 9 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/2860e4ee944fade3?hl=en
* www.guoshijerseys.com<nfl mlb nhl nba jerseys paypal.dhgate payment free
shipping> - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/670917ca6ae59ff4?hl=en
* browsing backup images? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/622026429c5cfbd8?hl=en
* mplayer-1.0rc2 compile errors w/ kernel 2.6.27.7-smp on slackware 12.2 - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/e90bf150e94aa3a1?hl=en
* Are these files corrupted for good? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/833e0bcfe2b77449?hl=en
* Can't compile lirc modules - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/537fdcea5e6f2cc0?hl=en
* Linux distribution tailored for netbooks? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/cd43729ffcfb42b2?hl=en
* tar and shell script - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/a046e9256e6a1b45?hl=en
* Keyloggers and Linux - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/3b8fe1382b164fc2?hl=en

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TOPIC: More crap in binutils
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/59a8f1cf1708954f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:08 am
From: markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark Hobley)


Mark Hobley <markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com> wrote:
> The problem is that I am building for i386 compatible machines using a
> machine with a later generation processor, and cpuid and some badly written
> inline assembly language code in various places is spoiling the build.

Have you seen this in the changelog?

Changes in 2.19:
* Support for SSE5 has been added to the i386 port.

What the hell is that? The i386 does not support SSE5.

Mark.

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TOPIC: binutils-2.19.51.0.2: configure: C compiler cannot create executables
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/d74d8b31a407ee80?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:28 am
From: Balwinder S Dheeman


On 03/09/2009 10:38 PM, Mark Hobley wrote:
> I am trying to compile binutils-2.19.51.0.2 for a stage 0 scratch build.
>
> I have the unpacked sources in ~/binutils-2.19.51.0.2
>
> I now:
>
> cd
> mkdir binutils-build
> ../binutils-2.19.51.0.2/configure --target=$TGT --build='i386-pc-linux'
> --prefix=/tools --disable-nls --disable-werror
>
> checking build system type... i386-pc-linux-gnu
> checking host system type... i386-pc-linux-gnu
> checking target system type... i386-lfs-linux-gnu
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether ln works... yes
> checking whether ln -s works... yes
> checking for gcc... gcc
> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: in
> `/home/lfs/binutils-build':
> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> See `config.log' for more details.
>
> cat config.log
> This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
> running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.
>
> It was created by configure, which was
> generated by GNU Autoconf 2.59. Invocation command line was
>
> $ ../binutils-2.19.51.0.2/configure --target=i386-lfs-linux-gnu
> --build=i386-p
> c-linux --prefix=/tools --disable-nls --disable-werror

[snip]

> configure: exit 77
>
> Does anyone know what is wrong here?

IMHO, the options --build=i386-pc-linux and --target=i386-lfs-linux-gnu
are confusing your gcc; gcc might treat these triggering a cross build
and, or compilation.

Does your build system has symlinks i386-lfs-linux-gnu --> i386-pc-linux
in $PREFIX/include and $PREFIX/lib? If not, try creating these manually.

And the following:

$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-cpp -> cpp-4.1
$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-cpp-4.1 -> cpp-4.1
$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-g++ -> g++-4.1
$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-g++-4.1 -> g++-4.1
$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-gcc -> gcc-4.1
$PREFIX/usr/bin/i386-lfs-linux-gnu-gcc-4.1 -> gcc-4.1

Hope that helps,
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:06 pm
From: Tim Greer


Mark Hobley wrote:

> I am trying to compile binutils-2.19.51.0.2 for a stage 0 scratch
> build.
>
> I have the unpacked sources in ~/binutils-2.19.51.0.2
>
> I now:
>
> cd
> mkdir binutils-build
> ../binutils-2.19.51.0.2/configure --target=$TGT
> --build='i386-pc-linux' --prefix=/tools --disable-nls --disable-werror
>
> checking build system type... i386-pc-linux-gnu
> checking host system type... i386-pc-linux-gnu
> checking target system type... i386-lfs-linux-gnu
> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether ln works... yes
> checking whether ln -s works... yes
> checking for gcc... gcc
> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error:
> in `/home/lfs/binutils-build':
> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
> See `config.log' for more details.
>

Do you have access to the compiler as the user you're using to run
configure and make?
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:08 pm
From: markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark Hobley)


Mark Hobley <markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com> wrote:
> I am trying to compile binutils-2.19.51.0.2 for a stage 0 scratch build.

> mkdir binutils-build
> ../binutils-2.19.51.0.2/configure --target=$TGT --build='i386-pc-linux'
> --prefix=/tools --disable-nls --disable-werror
>
> cat config.log

> configure:3312: checking for C compiler default output file name
> configure:3315: gcc -march=i386 -Wa,-march=i386 conftest.c >&5
> as: unrecognized option `-march=i386' <---
|
I am using the Linux From Scratch live CD.

GNU assembler version 2.17 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) using BFD version 2.17

cat testasm.c
int main(void)
{
asm("cpuid"); /* Invalid on the i386 */
}

gcc -march=i386 -Wa,-march=i386 testasm.c
as: unrecognized option `-march=i386'

I think this means that I am going to have to do a double build. I am
going to have to build to get GNU assembler version 2.19. Then I am
going to have to build again using the new version to apply the switch.

(Building Linux from scratch, from a scratch built Linux from scratch).

I wonder how long it will take for the GNU assembler 2.19 to make it
onto the LFS cdrom?

Mark.

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TOPIC: trying to avoid printing binary files to STDOUT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/2860e4ee944fade3?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:01 am
From: Andrew Halliwell


Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I shouldn't.
> eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc. I assume this is
> generically binary / non-text data.
>
> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
> oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a way to get out
> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?
>
Well, y'could pipe everything through strings.
(that filters out all non-ascii characters)
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== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:30 am
From: Bill Marcum


On 2009-03-09, Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I shouldn't.
> eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc. I assume this is
> generically binary / non-text data.
>
> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
> oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a way to get out
> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?
>
Often a way to get out of a junk screen is to type the command "reset".
Or you can switch to another window if you're using X, or another
virtual terminal if you use the console or screen. You could get into
the habit of using something other than cat to examine unknown files,
for example less or file.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:01 pm
From: Tim Greer


Rahul wrote:

> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I
> shouldn't. eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc.
> I assume this is generically binary / non-text data.
>
> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state
> with oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in
> the way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a way to
> get out of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange
> characters?
>

When you get the crazy characters on your terminal screen, depending on
the environment, you can either type "reset" or you can cat a bunch of
text files in something like /etc (just as an example) and it'll reset
the screen's characters for you (weird way of doing it, huh?). I'd
also recommend using less or more for viewing text files, as you
unlikely want to actually use cat in most situations.
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== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:08 pm
From: markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark Hobley)


Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc.

I don't think you can wrap cat, because it is used internally by many
tools, and it does handle binary files.

You could get used to typing cat -v , or you could create another
command that uses this, you would then have to get used to typing the
new command of course, which won't be easy, if cat still works, because
you will type cat out of habit.

I have the same problem sometimes, because some of the files currently
in /etc are binary and sometimes this catches me out.

> Or a way to get out
> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?

You can sometimes reset the terminal (I think using Ctrl-O), but often I
end up killing the session from another terminal.

I have noticed that when I used to use Red Hat 6, and Debian Sarge, if I
typed a command and strange characters were appearing, when I pressed
enter, the command was rejected as nonsense.

However, I notice with Debian Etch and Debian Lenny, that if I type a
command and strange characters were appearing, when I pressed enter the
command was properly received.

Don't logout on a screwed terminal, because the login prompt is screwed.

Note that executable binary files do not need read permission, you could
make the execute only, and you could knock read permissions off files
that you do not need access too.

Mark.

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== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:13 pm
From: Andrew Halliwell


Bill Marcum <marcumbill@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On 2009-03-09, Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I shouldn't.
>> eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc. I assume this is
>> generically binary / non-text data.
>>
>> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
>> oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>>
>> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
>> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a way to get out
>> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?
>>
> Often a way to get out of a junk screen is to type the command "reset".
> Or you can switch to another window if you're using X, or another
> virtual terminal if you use the console or screen. You could get into
> the habit of using something other than cat to examine unknown files,
> for example less or file.
>
Sometimes reset doesn't work.

A way I get out of it is to more the file again... Whatever arcane ansi
control codes caused the switch to gibberish often have an antidolt in the
same binary. :)

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== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:29 pm
From: Tim Greer


Andrew Halliwell wrote:

> Bill Marcum <marcumbill@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On 2009-03-09, Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I
>>> shouldn't. eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data
>>> etc. I assume this is generically binary / non-text data.
>>>
>>> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state
>>> with oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes
>>> in the way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a
>>> way to get out of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange
>>> characters?
>>>
>> Often a way to get out of a junk screen is to type the command
>> "reset". Or you can switch to another window if you're using X, or
>> another virtual terminal if you use the console or screen. You could
>> get into the habit of using something other than cat to examine
>> unknown files, for example less or file.
>>
> Sometimes reset doesn't work.
>
> A way I get out of it is to more the file again... Whatever arcane
> ansi control codes caused the switch to gibberish often have an
> antidolt in the same binary. :)
>

Reset will depend on the environment, but you're right, often the
character sequence you hit when cat'ing a binary that scrambles the
characters on your screen, can be reset by cat'ing other files (such as
doing a cat /etc/* and breaking when you see normal characters again,
as there are files there that often contain a sequence that will reset
the characters, too, instead of trying to cat the same binary). In all
"exit" and logging back in also works. :-)
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== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:37 pm
From: Dan Espen


Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I shouldn't.
> eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc. I assume this is
> generically binary / non-text data.
>
> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
> oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc. Or a way to get out
> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?

You might alias "cat" to "cat -v".

When the terminal gets really badly messed up
try typing:

stty sane

followed by "control-j".

If you've already typed something, hit
control-j first.


== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:43 am
From: "David W. Hodgins"


On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:41:38 -0400, Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
> oodles of junk characters on my screen.

When that happens, press "ctrl & c", to terminate the command, and
type in "reset", and press enter.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:40 pm
From: dave+news002@gibson-hrd.abelgratis.co.uk.invalid (Dave Gibson)


Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Often, in a bout of great stupidity, I end up catting files I shouldn't.
> eg. executibles, files with encoded or encrypted data etc. I assume this is
> generically binary / non-text data.
>
> This ends up in me screwing up my terminal unto a unresponsive state with
> oodles of junk characters on my screen.
>
> Is there a way to "idiot proof" my shell so that "something" comes in the
> way of me doing this? Maybe a wrapper around cat etc.

cat() { [ -t 1 ] && set -- -v ${1+"$@"} ; /bin/cat ${1+"$@"} ; }

> Or a way to get out
> of this once my shell starts to hang on those strange characters?

^C
tput reset
stty sane

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TOPIC: browsing backup images?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/622026429c5cfbd8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:42 am
From: edgue


Hello there,

> rsync probably comes closest to what you want to do. E.g.

I guess I forgot to mention that I have one problem:
my company provides LAN space for backup ... but they allow only a
SINGLE file in there.
They setup their samba server to block any attempts to create a second
file.

(interesting policy: you have to overwrite your old backup in order to
create a new
one ... when your disc crashes while backing up, you are screwed).

So I guess I would need something like a huge file out there
(limitation is
just about number of files, not about size ;-)
... and then some kind of loop device pointing inside that file.

Not sure about performance in such a context.
Maybe I am better of using partimage ;-)

thanks for all the hints; gave me some good ideas,

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TOPIC: mplayer-1.0rc2 compile errors w/ kernel 2.6.27.7-smp on slackware 12.2
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:56 am
From: Tim Greer


ken wrote:

> anyway, thanks again, and apologies for the multiple posts on
> my previous message,

No problem, my ISP causes a lot of problems with who they outsource
their news services to (and I get errors, delays, and end up having
multiple posts myself sometimes).
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TOPIC: Are these files corrupted for good?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/833e0bcfe2b77449?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:57 am
From: Tim Greer


Amaranth wrote:

> On 9 Mar, 11:33, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> On 2009-03-09, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi, to follow on my earlier post on a SuSE 11.1 file server, what
>> > happened to these files?
>>
>> >http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corruptedfiles.gif
>>
>> > Is it a hard disk problem or software one?
>>
>> > If I rsync'ed backup files from one Linux box to another, would it
>> > successfully overwrite them? I'm getting permission denied ls'ing
>> > those files even as root.
>>
>> The filesystem appears to be corrupted. Run fsck before copying the
>> backup files.
>
> fsck doesn't work. It reports the file system as read only.
>
> If I try to touch those corrupted files (with fsck, mv, rm, etc.), the
> file system seems to change to read only without an explicit command
> to do so. Trying to write to the entire *drive* after that doesn't
> work (e.g. touching a temp file)
>
> I have to unmount and remount to regain write privileges and just
> leave those files alone. I'm copying out what I can and will then
> format the drive, unless I get a better suggestion.

Drop into runlevel 1 or run fsck on bootup, before the file
system/partition is mounted. While it is mounted, you can also run
badblocks in a safe way, too. Do your messages or dmesg logs show
anything interesting (any errors)?
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TOPIC: Can't compile lirc modules
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:59 am
From: Tim Greer


Yvan wrote:

> Nedavno Tim Greer napisa:
>
>> That is odd.  I wonder if there's an old install or some headers that
>> are in another path for a different or older install that are being
>> picked up?
>
>
> Could be, I do not know, I just do not have the time and knowledge to
> find what the problem is.
>
>
>> Anyway, that's interesting that it didn't give you a
>> working build.  Keep us updated if you find out if there was a
>> problem or find another build does work.
>
>
> I do not think that the patch I applied is to blame for the kernel
> that will not boot. Firstly I did not add --initrdimg option, and it
> stooped booting almost immediately, than I did, but it stopped again
> after a while, so I decided that it is not worth bothering any more,
> and went back to working Debian etch installation.
>
> I will try again when I have more time, and if I find the solution,
> I'll post here.
>
>

Yeah, if you ever get the time and motivation to check into it, but I'd
be curious about the kernel not booting if you didn't include it at
that time (I missed that part of the post, I guess). Anyway, another
day.
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TOPIC: Linux distribution tailored for netbooks?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/cd43729ffcfb42b2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:47 pm
From: ray


On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:52:14 +0000, Rui Maciel wrote:

> I've recently purchased an Acer Aspire One and, as the default linpus
> install is a bit on the crap side, I am looking for a new linux
> distribution to upgrade the system. As the model I've purchased comes
> with a flash SSD then I believe I need to adopt a linux distribution
> that takes that into account and tweaks it's packages accordingly.
>
> So, what's available out there?
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Rui Maciel

Suggest you look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:09 pm
From: Baron


Michael Black wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, Rui Maciel wrote:
>
>> I've recently purchased an Acer Aspire One and, as the default linpus
>> install is a bit on the crap side, I am looking for a new linux
>> distribution to upgrade the system. As the model I've purchased comes
>> with a flash SSD then I believe I need to adopt a linux distribution
>> that takes that into account and tweaks it's packages accordingly.

I bought my XYL an "Acer One" for Christmas... She loves it !

>> So, what's available out there?
>>
> "Linpus" is supposed to be tailored for netbooks. It's hard to tell,
> there doesn't seem to be that much there, yet it sure takes up enough
> space on the "hard drive".

Once you have got over the shock of almost everything being an icon, it
works very well. In the few months that she has had the "Acer" she has
found more local wireless hot spots that I never knew existed. This
Netbook is her first computer and her first look at Linux.

> The same with the EEEPC, the distribution that was included with it
> was some oddball distribution.
>
> There seems to have been more work done on the EEEPC than the Aspire
> One, including a distribution or two tailored specifically for it
> (obviously a derivitive of a major distribution).
>
> One guy has described how he put Slackware on the Aspire One,
>
http://www.thev.net/cgi-bin/awki.cgi/_Acer_Aspire_One_?stamp=1221614962
>
> I haven't done anything yet, but it's likely going to be Slackware
> on my Aspire One, since I use Slackware already.
>
> I have come across some other links that may be worth looking over:
>
> <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne>
>
> <http://bad.ilink.lv/2008/07/guide-how-to-install-xubintu-on-acer
> -aspire-one>
>
> another page about xubuntu and the Aspire One:
> <http://www.skyshadows.net/?cat=5>
>
> And then there's a general page that might have some useful links:
> <http://www.aspireoneuser.com>
>
> This isn't comprehensive. Xubuntu seems maybe aimed at netbooks.
> I've tried DSL on a USB flash drive, and everything I've tried works
> (I haven't tried wireless, for instance, since I don't have wireless
> at home) but the Aspire One is really a full blown system no matter
> what some may say, so it really deserves a full system, albeit trimmed
> down. I did a limited install on my hard drive of Slackware, in a
> separate partition with the intent of using it to get things right
> for the Aspire One (but haven't gotten very far) and stripped of
> KDE and the associated big gui applications, plus no server packages
> and no documentation or emacs, and it's down to about 2gigs.
>
> Michael

Michael I would be interested to learn how you get on with an
alternative distribution on your "Acer One"

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TOPIC: tar and shell script
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/a046e9256e6a1b45?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:27 pm
From: hendedav@gmail.com


Gang,

I have a bash script that is trying to run tar with parameters,
but when it does so, tar reports all kinds of errors. If I take the
same output (using an echo command in the script to see what exactly
is being executed), it runs with no problems. Does anyone have any
ideas as to what could be causing this?

Thanks,
Dave


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:45 pm
From: hendedav@gmail.com


On Mar 9, 4:27 pm, hende...@gmail.com wrote:
> Gang,
>
>      I have a bash script that is trying to run tar with parameters,
> but when it does so, tar reports all kinds of errors.  If I take the
> same output (using an echo command in the script to see what exactly
> is being executed), it runs with no problems.  Does anyone have any
> ideas as to what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

Never mind, I was storing all the tar parameters in a variable and
then trying to run the script using that variable with tar (it has
redirects and pipes and I think it was giving tar issues). Anyways, I
created a work around. Disregard this post.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:47 pm
From: Tim Greer


hendedav@gmail.com wrote:

> Gang,
>
> I have a bash script that is trying to run tar with parameters,
> but when it does so, tar reports all kinds of errors. If I take the
> same output (using an echo command in the script to see what exactly
> is being executed), it runs with no problems. Does anyone have any
> ideas as to what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave

Please post the relevant portions of the shell script, and the errors
it's outputting.
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:51 pm
From: Tim Greer


hendedav@gmail.com wrote:

> On Mar 9, 4:27 pm, hende...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Gang,
>>
>> I have a bash script that is trying to run tar with parameters,
>> but when it does so, tar reports all kinds of errors.  If I take the
>> same output (using an echo command in the script to see what exactly
>> is being executed), it runs with no problems.  Does anyone have any
>> ideas as to what could be causing this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>
> Never mind, I was storing all the tar parameters in a variable and
> then trying to run the script using that variable with tar (it has
> redirects and pipes and I think it was giving tar issues). Anyways, I
> created a work around. Disregard this post.

Glad you figured out the issue.
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TOPIC: Keyloggers and Linux
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/3b8fe1382b164fc2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:38 pm
From: "W. eWatson"


W. eWatson wrote:
> A friend believes that someone put a h/w keylogger on her laptop. She
> doesn't have the experience to pull apart the laptop to find it, and I'm
> too far away to help. She's recently had trouble with restoring Win
> Vista to the laptop, and it may be because her install DVDs are bad. To
> get her back on her feet, I told her to install Fedora, which she is in
> the process of doing. My question is how likely is that the keylogger
> will be effective under Linux? I might think 0, since it seems likely a
> h/w keylogger would more likely built for Win than Linux. Comments?
>
That's quite a few responses, so I'm over here on a side thread. The other
thread has dissolved into fine arguments between individuals.

I've seen small circuit board like devices for sale on the internet. Here
are a few devices:
<http://www.keyghost.com/>
<http://www.keelog.com/diy.html>
<http://wirelesskeylogger.com/index.php/controller/product/product_id/1>

he person who is suspected of doing it, is in her opinion very savvy with
hardware. He works for a fairly large computer company in Silicon Valley. He
and his computer buddy probably had access to her computer for several
hours. Don't ask. Yes, it make sense that a keylogger hooked into a keyboard
may work on any OS, but she has used a virtual keyboard, and claims info
have leaked off her laptop, and even the culprit has deliberately shut down
her computer remotely. She's going ahead with Linux.

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