Monday, March 9, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* cs3 Photoshop filters read Error - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6400835fa2ee6102?hl=en
* CS4 and Full Screen - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/050f4c556e13588e?hl=en
* Mac/Win market share confirmation —straight from the horse's mouth - 12
messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fce4cb8834443a08?hl=en
* How to cancel-undo new adjustment layer in CS4 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6dae16c94134c112?hl=en
* GPU enhancement issues with ATI Radeon X1900 XT - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/867b9fd5220134db?hl=en
* Shortcut for clicking on pixels to select layer - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a3ecdddd5de6ab0b?hl=en
* making a selection a new layer - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d56ad7dc2bfdde7c?hl=en
* New Mac Pros, iMacs and Minis introduced - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/14ab36a13b239952?hl=en

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TOPIC: cs3 Photoshop filters read Error
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6400835fa2ee6102?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:11 am
From: Kristopher_Laumbach@adobeforums.com


Neil,

I logged in as a new user. This got me immediate results. Later today I may go back and reset preferences as the old user. I will keep you informed.

Kristopher

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TOPIC: CS4 and Full Screen
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/050f4c556e13588e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:20 am
From: rlaine@adobeforums.com


Has the cmd-tilde changed at some point?

I use CS4 and OS X 10.5.6

Window cycle works windowed with cmd-tilde, but not in full screen. Ctrl-tab works also in full screen.

In Illustrator full screen, none of these work.

Duh.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:29 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Cmd Tilde has been changed because of problems with foreign-language keyboards among other reasons.

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TOPIC: Mac/Win market share confirmation —straight from the horse's mouth
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fce4cb8834443a08?hl=en
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:24 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


"there is no real difference in which platform Adobe apps run on' that's because Adobe have invested resources, and struggled over the years to try and keep it this way.


== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:26 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Repairing Permissions, and running DiskWarrior and Cocktail as needed, take a few moments; and can be set to run automatically and shut down the computer at the end of the day so they are a non-issue as far as I am concerned.

Far more important to me is that the CS4 Suite (including the OpenGL features) runs flawlessly on my computer — which does not appear to be the case for the Window's Users if the threads in the Windows Forums are anything to go by.


== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:28 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


So has Macromedia, another bi-platform developer that you mentioned earlier as possibly upsetting some perceived balance. I'm unable to make sense of your posts here.

Can you just cut to the chase and say 'I love Mac with all my heart and soul' or is there some other point you are trying to make? :)


== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:33 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


Ann, it does not matter if it takes only 2 seconds to repair permissions. It is just insane when no other BSD system (you know OSX is BSD, right?) requires this. It is no different than a Windows user allowing AV to run automatically.

Pull your heads from your bums and realize both platforms have their own quirks; both platforms require maintenance; and Adobe makes software that runs on both. Why anyone needs to make a differentiation is beyond reason. What point are you trying to make here? ...That there are just as many Adobe graphics professionals using Windows as there are Mac? Why justify that statistic with a thread if you want to claim superiority of a particular platform? As with all else in life, everything is even. Quit trying to rock the boat.


== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:37 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Re: the beginning of your second paragraph in #14:

Is it really necessary to descend to using the language of the gutter in these Forums?


== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:45 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


It's a continuing source of irritation how many loyal Windows users are still completely unaware of how blindingly superior in nearly every respect the Mac OS as a platform, for almost any type of work is - and most of them are still on XP for crissake!

Maintenance is not required anywhere near as often as you seem to think. As part of my job I often have to go into studio's where the macs have not been maintained since they were bought, no disk permissions, no Onyx nothing. No issues, well not serious ones

I like the word bum Ann, doesn't it make you laugh?


== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:45 am
From: "John Joslin"


Why do Apple users always feel the need to justify their choice of platform?

These days, both types of computer are perfectly capable of doing the job.

What you are used to is the best for you.


== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:50 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


"Why do Apple users always feel the need to justify their choice of platform" - its the desire to be HELPFUL that motivates this. Since you'll save yourself, time, heartache, and yes when all's said and done… money by swapping.

Oh, I love platform wars discussions, mainly because its a rare opportunity to discuss an issue where you can conclusively, without any fear of disagreement know you are right


== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:56 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


Ann, no, it is not necessary. Nothing I have posted here really matters. Ramon posted a statistic alleged by an Adobe employee that they have an equal market for their graphic apps. I'm not sure why others feel this is an opportunity to argue which platform is best or more used. Adobe consumers have apparently voted that it really does not matter. How does anyone here argue that? Unless they are nuts.


== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:34 am
From: Buko


JJ in this case its more about the irritating Jim Jordan than it is about a platform war. I know that there is a few of you running windows with no issues what so ever. there seem to be many more that just can't get CS4 to work. whether they are running XP or Vista.

admittedly only the people with problems come to a forum for help but the problems seem to be wider spread on your side of the hall. Which is why I made this comment in post #6:

it seems that Windows users have more than their fair share of problems
with the release of CS4. Mac issues seem few and far between by comparison.
Is this because Macs are only made by Apple and PC boxes are made by any
Tom, Dick or Harry? I would say that has something to do with the problems.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:13 pm
From: "John Joslin"


Fair enough but, as you said, "only the people with problems come to a forum for help."

What is definitely true is that there are a lot more crappy Windows boxes out in the wild. But since over 87% of the world's personal computers are using Windows that's hardly surprising.

(Once again, as far as Adobe apps are concerned, neither OS has an advantage. Except for YOU dear user!) :)


== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:21 pm
From: Lundberg02@adobeforums.com


Windows is text based and always will be., even if it is eventually written by Muslims.

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TOPIC: How to cancel-undo new adjustment layer in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6dae16c94134c112?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:27 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


You can now hit the Delete key, which will dump the current adjustment

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TOPIC: GPU enhancement issues with ATI Radeon X1900 XT
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/867b9fd5220134db?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 10:32 am
From: Welles_Goodrich@adobeforums.com


Almost all the problems with the Radeon X1900 XT were with the design of the original cooler from ATI. I purchased an X1900 XT upgrade for my Mac Pro after a year of use with the stock. When I installed it I found it to be very noisy considering my Mac Pro had made no noise at all except a tiny bit of hard drive noise. I also discovered from research that the ATI cooler (fan unit) had problems with dust capture at the exhaust and poorly seated thermal paste which were the two problems accountable for almost all the overheating problems.

Within a day of installation, I ordered a replacement cooler, Accelero X2 by Arctic Cooling. Replacement was quite simple but like all electronics required close attention. The result was that my Radeon ran much cooler, the Accelero X2 is completely silent and I've never had a cooling issue. The only downside is that the heat is vented in the case rather than out the rear so the case temp goes up a couple of degrees. This has never been an issue because I use SMC Fan Control and have my CPU fan speed bumped up to 550 from 495/500rpm stock setting. I also use three different settings depending on the stress of the computer with the highest just at audible threshold, about 1,500rpm. That's used for summer 3D rendering when all four cores are running 100% for hours on end.

The X1900 XT with the Accelero X2 has been an excellent upgrade for me and allows complete utility of the GPU leverag used by Photoshop CS4.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:31 pm
From: LarryGR@adobeforums.com


When I purchased my Apple store Mac Pro in 2006 the configuration that I choose came with the X1900 card. I never would have chosen this card but it was the on;y way to get the other options that I wanted. My old machine had died. I quickly upgraded the cooler per Welles advice in 2006 and am happy about that (Accelero X2). I run two displays off of this card.

Over the last year I have had continually increasing video artifacts and then crashes. I use the SMC Fan Control to keep the fans at over 1000 rpm to keep the problems at a minimum. My problems are clearly temperature related.

I started trouble shooting this machine about two weeks ago with Apple. I had purchased Apple care. It passes all hardware tests and I installed a fresh system on an extra partition with no other software and can reproduce the problem. Last Saturday I took the machine into an Apple store genius bar and was able to reproduce the artifacts there. I ran CS4 with a bunch of other stuff at the same time as I watched the internal temperature rise (the fan control was off). It was while running google earth that video artifacts started showing up again. Apple has a new X1900 card on order and will call me when it comes in. I'll have to take the machine back in and leave it over night as they want to fully test the machine before and after the card swap.

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TOPIC: Shortcut for clicking on pixels to select layer
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a3ecdddd5de6ab0b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:03 am
From: Frank_Heller@adobeforums.com


"FIRST hold down V key — +Command +Click (V+Command+Click)"

Years of muscle memory down the toidy again. Sheesh...it wasn't broken and it didn't need fixing.

Anyone care to see if they can duplicate crash I get while CNT/OPT/CMD/CLICKing on the image with the BLOCK Eraser selected? (Intel/10.5.6/PS 11.0.1)

Just curious.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:08 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


Nope, I don't get that Frank on 10.5.4

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TOPIC: making a selection a new layer
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d56ad7dc2bfdde7c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 11:05 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Are you sure that the Layer containing the image from which you want to copy, is actually targeted (high-lit) in your layers Panel?

Then, did you use Cmd J ("New…Layer via Copy" )?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:35 pm
From: Jody_Shassol@adobeforums.com


thanks I didn't realize I needed to be on the layer it was coming from. I'm using quick selection and refine edge. Is there any way to get it more exact?

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TOPIC: New Mac Pros, iMacs and Minis introduced
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/14ab36a13b239952?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:16 pm
From: Lundberg02@adobeforums.com


KBR Halliburton lost money in Iraq. You can look it up.
And BTW, KBR has been shoveling money out of the treasury since Lyndon Johnson was president and the company was called Brown and Root.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 12:57 pm
From: Buko


KBR Halliburton lost money in Iraq.


I'm sure they did and they have no clue where it is. Could that be why they moved the HQ to Duba? Sounds like a bunch of traitors to me, their only loyalty is to money not their country.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 1:10 pm
From: "Tom Murray 1" <>


Halliburton lost money in Iraq


OMFG! When's the telethon.


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