Friday, February 6, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* education - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0bfb015bb8416039?hl=en
* CS4 is shutting down computer - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7a6155d19d66587b?hl=en
* I hate it when they change all the keyboard shortcuts. Is there a fix for
these? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/1a7f699bd888d020?hl=en
* Free transform trouble - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/be572f9b8cec097c?hl=en
* CS4...How do you draw/paint in pure black & white? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f930016958126e50?hl=en
* Pen Tool Precision Problem. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4a6d980aa694c9d2?hl=en
* ACE list - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7156595ddd7bbc00?hl=en
* Enable Commenting pdf - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/550f275954c5e746?hl=en
* Large Format Document will not print - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6e3bd8a205e04b42?hl=en
* Installing UseOldShortcuts.plugin for CS4 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7a8c267aa7d445f8?hl=en
* PS animation trouble..... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6778f575049b4f70?hl=en
* Printing Help - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/957eca900f3a4f7c?hl=en
* iMac runs slowly in Photoshop - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
* Printing too dark in CS4 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en
* CS4 Glitches - long list - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/34beb33257288a4f?hl=en

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TOPIC: education
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0bfb015bb8416039?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 8:53 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


["The truth is, I do not speak French."]

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TOPIC: CS4 is shutting down computer
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7a6155d19d66587b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 8:55 am
From: Kristin_Richter-Tope@adobeforums.com


What's a haxie? Why is archiving the right way to reinstall? I can understand uninstalling software programs but not archiving the system.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 8:57 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


The only thing I can possibly parse from that log is that it might have something to do with your video card.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:06 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Kristin,

What's a haxie?


It's a bit of software code that is designed to modify or enhance your Mac OS X (or by extension, your applications) in a way it was not originally intended to work. The problem is that hacking software this way can trigger other problems, such as crashes, freezes, failure of certain other software functions, unexpected responses to commands, or the inability to update.

Neil


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:56 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Sure looks that way.

Either the card or the drivers.

Kristin what I was suggesting is that with a fresh system you not load all your applications just CS 4 to see if it worked then you can load the other application.

But this loos like your video card is shutting down the system


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:20 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Why is archiving the right way to reinstall?


Because an "archive and install" sets the old system aside for backup and then does a relatively complete new installation. This results in a cleaner installation with less junk code bits lying around. Sort of like cleaning to remove all the dirt, debris and dust bunnies before moving into a new house.

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TOPIC: I hate it when they change all the keyboard shortcuts. Is there a fix
for these?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/1a7f699bd888d020?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:11 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


The reason they turned command 1 into 100% view is apparently to make photoshop consistent with Illustrator and Indesign. Of course, why they feel the need to tamper with a perfectly good piece of software who's shortcuts have been very well thought out and used successfully for years, just for compatibility with two much less powerful and less complex apps is completely beyond me.

It all goes back I guess to the misguided "SUITE" decision. Fortunately, our heroes at Photoshop have so far held fast against allowing these partially informed Management decisions from completely shafting everything.

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TOPIC: Free transform trouble
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/be572f9b8cec097c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:16 am
From: Buko


I have important documents that were torn up to little pieces and im trying
to put them together.


Your best bet would be to treat your torn up document as a jigsaw puzzle and put the actual document together by hand by gluing them to another sheet or use scotch tape.

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TOPIC: CS4...How do you draw/paint in pure black & white?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f930016958126e50?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:18 am
From: Buko


for what you are doing you might want to look at Painter.

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TOPIC: Pen Tool Precision Problem.
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4a6d980aa694c9d2?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:21 am
From: Peripheral_Design@adobeforums.com


Hello Adobe forum,
Recently after opening a document in Photoshop & using the Pen tool, the precision gets thrown off. When I click to add a new anchor point, it doesn't place the point at the end of the pen, but rather at the base of the pen. Any suggestions? I'm on a Mac platform & using CS4.

Thanks in advance!


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:38 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


Press your F key three times. Any better?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:41 am
From: Buko


it doesn't place the point at the end of the pen,


go into prefs and choose precise tools

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TOPIC: ACE list
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7156595ddd7bbc00?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:23 am
From: fandangle@adobeforums.com


Hi, I'm looking for a state-by-state list of Adobe Certified Experts. Can't find on Adobe web site. I saw such a list a year ago. Anyone know where it might be hiding? Thanks.

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TOPIC: Enable Commenting pdf
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/550f275954c5e746?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:25 am
From: davidmilgrim@adobeforums.com


Hi,

When I create a pdf in PS CS3 (under File>Automate>pdf presentation) is there a way to enable commenting, so I can later add stocky notes in Reader 9?

Thanks!!
David

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TOPIC: Large Format Document will not print
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6e3bd8a205e04b42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:29 am
From: eileen_dougherty@adobeforums.com


Hi everyone,

Thanks for your help. I finally figured out it was indeed in the set up my son used. FYI under image he had the resolution set to 1000, reset it to 300 and was able to create a jpg file no problem. It's fun, not perfect but blown up I can now see where my mistakes were and it didn't cost an arm ad a leg. So thank you again, my office needed some dressing up. Have a nice weekend,
Eileen

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TOPIC: Installing UseOldShortcuts.plugin for CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7a8c267aa7d445f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:32 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


"Adobe is supposedly working on a consistent interface" - yes if they mistakenly think they NEED to do that, then they would be well advised to choose the BEST, most popular, and best thought out of the three apps and make everything else consistent with that.

Moving the channel shortcuts 2 places to the right has made the stretch uncomfortable, as well as taking shortcuts AWAY from Selective Color - if they were going to change things sensibly, command 1 should have been composite channel and 2,3,4,5 for other channels.

Option Command Zero has always been 100% and frankly anyone who can't learn something so simple should go back to Quark and Freehand. There's another option to double click the hand tool for 100% anyway. Crumbs!

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TOPIC: PS animation trouble.....
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6778f575049b4f70?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:46 am
From: "Brian Gibson"


To edit the layer, you'll need to change it from indexed mode to RGB mode. That should let you edit them.

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TOPIC: Printing Help
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/957eca900f3a4f7c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:51 am
From: Sara_Vettorel@adobeforums.com


Hi I'm using Adobe Photoshop CS3 Suite on my Macintosh. I'm trying to print a project on a full 8.5 X 11 piece of paper. I have the document size set to print that way, but It's not printing to the bottom of the page. It prints it on about 3/4 the page, instead of the whole page. Please let me know what I can do.

Thanks!


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:55 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Sara,

Please tell the details of your system, your printer, your page setup, and print settings -- plus the size and resolution of the image(s) you're trying to print.

Thanks.

Neil


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:11 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


You are possibly using an older Epson printer which required a 5/8 "Grabber" margin at the tail-end of the sheet?

You will need to size your image to fit within the "Printable Area" (as designated for your particular printer).

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TOPIC: iMac runs slowly in Photoshop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 9:56 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


RAM capacity typically improves with new releases of the iMac. We're not
going to be stuck at 4GB forever.


?? Yes, you are stuck at 4GB forever when you buy an iMac that only accepts 4 GB.

Apple markets the iMac for home use with iLife. Garageband and iMovie
are not wimpy apps. Any system that can run these apps can run Photoshop
as well.


There is much more pro work than just getting an app to "run;" like the OP states "...I noticed that Photoshop (being memory- and processor- hungry) taxes the processor more heavily than many other programs"

Let's not forget the key words from the first post: 'I am a web designer'.
The discussion over iMac power belongs in another thread.


No, the discussion over iMac power belongs right here trying to resolve why the computer in question shows poor PS performance. The key words from the first post were "Photoshop was causing the cursor to jump and/or become jerky, as if the video card or processor were not keeping up with what's going on." Note too that the OP is running PS with 60 History States routinely used. The fact that his work product ends up on the web does not somehow make his work into light duty PS usage.

It is clear that Nathan made a professional choice in his system. There's
no need to challenge or question his choice.


What we are doing is trying to diagnose poor observed performance, not "question his choice." The choice of a by-definition-limiting iMac with ATI Radeon HD 2400 XT with 128MB memory could very well be part of his observed performance problems. There is no need to defend less-good PS platforms like iMacs and laptops, they are what they are. E.g. my 17" MBP has 2x the VRAM of the OP and I (to achieve mobility) by choice live with far less good performance than on my 2.66 GHz MP. If nothing else, a memory leak for instance will express itself in a performance hit much faster on a 4 GB box than on a 10 GB box.

• as one that moves computers to various events, an iMac is much more
mobile than a tower and works much better than a laptop.


I too use computers all over. In most instances the 17" MBP works great all by itself and unlike an iMac really is mobile. When a larger display is desired any size can be plugged in, including 30" - and no need to carry a loose keyboard and mouse. Better than an iMac, and the show can be run from the MBP as a mirror. The only downside is that laptops are more valuable and are more easily stolen.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:11 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


Allen, my comments (like those from a few others in this thread) were to point out that Nathan's issue must be software-related (either the OS or the app). An iMac (even a much older model) should not display that problem so there is little point in suggesting a more powerful computer is the obvious solution. What Nathan describes is an anomaly to that hardware.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 11:03 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


What Nathan describes is an anomaly to that hardware.


Given the general CS3 performance of my 2.33 GHz MBP, that was my first thought as well, and I agree that most likely there is something more than just system power limitations at work here. However my MBP has similar power and I realized that I limit my usage on the MBP. If I worked 60 History States hard with lots of layers for hours I probably would expect slowdown on the MBP; that kind of heavy usage I reserve for the MP with its 8 GB RAM.

Nathan-

� Yes move your PS scratch to the external FW drive. There is no need to partition it.

� Drives slow as they fill. For speed keep all drives not more than 50-70% full.

� There are some things we have not fully explored:

it began happening a few days ago, which is exactly the same time I shared
a jump drive with a friend's worm-infected Windows XP machine. I know
Macs don't get Windows worms...

...generally speaking, I have installed quite a lot of software...


Macs do not (yet) "get Windows worms" or viruses in general, but any OS is readily susceptible to malicious software (malware) that a user installs, even if that installation is unintentional. In particular Mac malware is known to infect pirated CS versions as well as other apps. And yes, Mac malware may be transmitted via a Windows thumb drive and Windows contamination can also be transmitted via a Mac. The symptoms of installed malware might well be similar to what you describe.

Personally I do not install anything that does not come directly from a highest end respected vendor, and any time that the Mac OS asks me for my admin password I carefully rethink why I am doing something that requires the PW. More than once I have decided "hmm, I do not really need/trust this" and aborted the approval.

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TOPIC: Printing too dark in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:34 am
From: DYP@adobeforums.com


Do a search both here and in the Lightroom forum for "ColorSync Utility" and you will find a way to work around this issue with Epson driver that are not properly updated for Leopard which causes double profiling with CS4.

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TOPIC: CS4 Glitches - long list
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/34beb33257288a4f?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Feb 6 2009 10:45 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


Following is a list of glitches, and oversights that I have noticed in CS4. Let me say first of all that I have a completely 'clean' system, all maintenance has been run and I have 50% drive space free - although at the moment I do not have an external scratch disk. RAM has been tested also. I have 7 gigs running 4x2.66ghz. None of these problems are particularly frequent and as a result its possible to 'get away' with them.

Glitches/oversights

• Selection glitches - sometimes when making diagonal selections or turning a path into a selection the selection is wrong - divided into Square blocks. Here is a visual sample … [URL=http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=selectionproblemcr3.gif][IMG]http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5968/selectionproblemcr3.th.gif[/IMG][/URL]

• Choosing Select All and then trying to modify a selection, for example "contract" is no longer possible. Items are grayed out in the select menu. This was noticed by someone else in another thread, but it bears repeating.

• In free transform its sometimes no longer possible to move the centre point. This problem seems to happen on larger res files, when there is a lot of RAM used?

• In addition there is a small graphics glitch with Free Transform, the center point icon now displays with two edges of a box, on high res files.

• Path points now display badly with a missing section, making them appear triangular on large files using Open GL - this makes them less clear.

• The cursor/tool alignment problem, which has been, mentioned in many threads - requires pressing of the F key to 'reset' the screen view. I'm not so sure this is a 'get a better graphics card' issue because I've seen it with too many different, and decent cards.

• Photoshop is crashing sometimes when the layer styles dialog box comes up, this usually happens when another click to close the dialog is made too rapidly. This is quite a serious crash, taking a long time for the system to resolve itself before relaunch.

• The new Masks Panel is not included in Keyboard Shortcuts yet - although I realise better shortcuts already exist for adding or subtracting masks from selections, (shift command and alt in layers panel) this is not consistent with the rest of the app, and people might want to define their own shortcuts.

• Photoshop cs4 crashing on saving on very large files maybe related to the next problem, because the symptom is the same

• Some very scratch intensive operations cause CS4 to 'jam'. This only happens when you switch to another application or use the hard drive for other activities.

• Panels can sometimes take a long time to "wake up" - before their contents appear. This is frustrating because all previous versions of photoshop have not had this problem.

• I've also noticed that Configurator panels with Actions included can occasionally after a pause, crash the app


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