Wednesday, March 11, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Would either or both of these PS CS4 books match my needs? - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0246d48f81b7c856?hl=en
* CS4 & OpenGL on OSX 10.5.5 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2cc54d5418f7c5e6?hl=en
* No books for Elements 4 Mac version? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/ef4c59429c9c946a?hl=en
* 3d steam train and tracks prop - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f0d0fc0f3eb53108?hl=en
* 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III - 2 messages,
2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
* Computer turns off by itself - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/01e7676be964f05b?hl=en
* Color management problems printing to Epson R2880 from CS3 - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f0ea998b627cf8a5?hl=en
* How do I change the Language - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2cbaccb2f9d453e4?hl=en
* Good photography site design or templates? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/76347aa4bca356c8?hl=en
* Problem with adjusting file window: it keeps wanting to snap back - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/faeb8fc726bc9d19?hl=en
* Printing too dark in CS4 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en

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TOPIC: Would either or both of these PS CS4 books match my needs?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0246d48f81b7c856?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:29 pm
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


We concur.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:46 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Anything by Ben Willmore is a good choice in my opinion.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 10:34 am
From: PShock@adobeforums.com


My advice would be to start with just a single book at this time - and yes, I also agree that book should Adobe's classroom in a book. Read through it, following along and doing the exercises from start to finish. Once done, go through it one more time.

This will give you a solid foundation and then you can look to more advanced books.

This is exactly the way I began my Photoshop "career" 14 years ago and it has served me well.

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TOPIC: CS4 & OpenGL on OSX 10.5.5
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2cc54d5418f7c5e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 12:08 am
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com


Still seeing the anomaly here. Firefox 3.0.7, Tiger 10.4.11.

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TOPIC: No books for Elements 4 Mac version?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/ef4c59429c9c946a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 12:50 am
From: "John Joslin"


Gosh! You do have a lot of spare time Ramón!


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:41 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Elements 4 is from the dark ages. The current Mac version is 6 (current Win version is 7). Unfortunately many scanners still deliver with version 4 in the package.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:46 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Well it IS a freebie – and the scanner manufacturers possibly prefer to unload stuff that is wasting space in their warehouses by giving it away … instead of throwing it in the dumpster.

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TOPIC: 3d steam train and tracks prop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f0d0fc0f3eb53108?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 2:09 am
From: gher@adobeforums.com


Hi everyone,

I'm trying to locate a 3d illustration file of a steam train and tracks that I can manipulate in 3d within photoshop.

Does anyone know where I can purchase this type of stock image somewhere on the web?

Appreciate any information.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:47 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Did you do a google search?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:52 am
From: gher@adobeforums.com


Thanks - that's what I ended up doing. Problem solved.

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TOPIC: 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:44 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Just be aware they got 2 models nowadays of the aluminum keyboards. One without numerical keys, which is standard with the new Macs, and one with the numerical keys, which you can order separately. The small one looks really cutoff and a bad choice if you are one of those who use all your fingers and the nuemrical for numbers and/or shortcuts and extra F-keys.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 8:26 am
From: Buko


I have the one with the number pad

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TOPIC: Computer turns off by itself
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/01e7676be964f05b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:56 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


The fan was constantly running before


That should have been a red flag. Minis and iMacs are very quiet. If they are making a lot of fan noise, something is wrong.

The computer should be cracked open at least once a year and cleaned if it is used in a high pollutant area (pets, smoke, etc). If your buddy is a smoker, show them pictures of what the inside looked like. It may get them to quit.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:41 am
From: Luke_Jennings@adobeforums.com


My Mac mini had the same symptoms. A new power brick fixed it.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:24 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


"The fan was constantly running before, and now nothing' - the fan has worn out, and now the computer is auto-sleeping because it can't cool itself sufficiently. Someone at an Apple store might have sufficient knowledge to know what is causing the overheating in the first place. That's your only other option - time for a new machine most probably


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:25 am
From: Mike_Geiger@adobeforums.com


Jim,

That was a great suggestion because I have my own mac and it is starting to do the same thing. The fan thing was something I was not aware of. I'm good with the applications, but not with hardware. BTW, they have 8 dogs 4 cats and both are smokers. You picked out the owners perfectly.

Luke, I've never heard of a power brick and when I googled its purpose, it only sounds like if this unit wants longivity it is going to need one. Excellent suggestion!

Welles, I've been trying to overheat this bad boy and its working perfectly. Although I have never owned a Mini Mac, Blowing out 3-4 years of crap from the interior of the box makes this mini function adequately.

Thank you everyone.

Mike


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:45 am
From: Buko


I vacuum out my computer about 4 times a year.

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TOPIC: Color management problems printing to Epson R2880 from CS3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f0ea998b627cf8a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 6:51 am
From: Helen_Glazer@adobeforums.com


Mike,

Gee Ramón, I am guessing Mike did a search for Epson R2880/CS3 and noticed that a Mac user was having the same problem he was. If together, maybe Windows users and Mac users can come together and solve the problems of the Epson R2880, maybe we can set a good example for the Republicans and Democrats in Congress :-).

Anyway, since I posted this problem, I have been working on it getting input from a variety of people. The person who finally helped me was Jim, a tech at ColorHQ.com. If you are in the US or Canada and have to buy a monitor and/or calibrator, definitely consider buying it from them, because they offer free tech support to their customers!

So regarding yellowness, one thing that you definitely should look at is how you're calibrating your monitor. Despite some of the replies above that recommend calibrating to 6500K, ColorHQ, which specializes in solutions for the printing industry, told me that calibrating to 5000K is the print industry standard. (While 6500K is the standard for working on images for the web or for editing video.) 5000K will make the monitor look yellower, so see whether that's a better match to what you're printing. I have an Eizo monitor and am running their Color Navigator software. The nice thing about that is something called Color Navigator Agent that allows me to switch between calibration profiles on the fly if I'm doing some web work and then want to work on images for printing.

Calibrating to 5000K was helpful, but not the solution in my case. The ultimate solution to my problem was more of a Mac issue, so I don't know if this will help you, but I'll post it in case anyone refers to this discussion in the future: there evidently IS an issue with ColorSync Utility in the Mac interfering with Photoshop managing colors in OS 10.4. In my case, ColorSync was causing the printer to preserve RGB values rather than use the ICC profile. The afore-mentioned Jim suggested that I go to Edit: Convert to Paper Profile, then pick the profile from the list. When printing, in the first Photoshop dialog box choose Color Handling: No color management. All the other settings in the next dialog box are the same as when you don't want the Epson to manage colors. So what you're doing is making it so the profile is built into the file, and neither Photoshop nor Epson are managing colors.

The result to this was MUCH better. The soft proof is a little redder than the print, but I can adjust that by creating a curves adjustment layer and pulling down the red curve in the middle a little bit if I want to see what the print will look like. I can live with that.

Also Jim pointed out that those papers that you mentioned are in fact a little warm in tone -- put Velvet Fine Art next to a piece of ordinary copy paper from say, Staples, and you'll see the difference. He suggested that if it's the matte look I want (it is) that Hahnemuhle makes a couple of papers that are brighter: Photo Rag Baryta and Bright White He also likes Ilford Gold Fiber silk, but that's a luster satin finish. You can download the Hahnemuhle profiles from Hahnemuhle's web site and compare them in "Soft Proof" mode in Photoshop with the Epson papers you mentioned and get an idea of the difference with your images. I haven't actually printed on them yet, but I see what he means.

Good luck, and I'd be interested to know how it goes for you.

--Helen


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 9:13 am
From: pfigen


Helen,

While D50 or 5000K is the viewing standard for looking at printed material, simply setting your monitor to that does not provide the best white point match. The reason 6500 K is recommended so often is that it provides a closer visual match on the screen to the reflective 5000K viewing booth. It's also related to overall screen luminance and your actual best match could be anywhere from 5500K to 6500K. 6500K works exceptionally well for me using a hardware calibrated Sony Artisan and custom profiles for all my inkjet media and offset printing vendors. If you want to get really picky, you can adjust the white point screen calibration to exactly match your paper white as viewed in your viewing booth.

There is also still a bug in ColorSync where you do have to set the default printer to the printer you are printing to, or there will be some strange posterized color issues, particularly with skin tones.

If your soft proof is redder than the print, either your profile or your monitor calibration or your viewing conditions are off.

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TOPIC: How do I change the Language
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2cbaccb2f9d453e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 8:31 am
From: Allan_Vega@adobeforums.com


Hi,

I recently bought a version of photoshop CS3 in Europe, but the software is in spanish. How can I change it to english? Please help!

Allan


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 8:40 am
From: Buko


You can't

If you want English you need to buy an English version.

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TOPIC: Good photography site design or templates?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/76347aa4bca356c8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 10:08 am
From: MacWright@adobeforums.com


<http://livebooks.com/design/examples/clean.php>

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TOPIC: Problem with adjusting file window: it keeps wanting to snap back
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/faeb8fc726bc9d19?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 10:35 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Have you Repaired Permissions and run Cocktail (or Onyx) to clear-out caches etc. since you installed CS4?

Also, try trashing your Photoshop prefs..

If you are using the Application Frame, investigate the use of the new "N-up" Arrange Documents button on the Applications Bar to open multiple frames simultaneously.

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TOPIC: Printing too dark in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:22 am
From: Dan_E_Boy@adobeforums.com


Hi all,

Has there been any progress on this issue? I have quite a few systems in a computer lab setting and have just upgraded to CS4 and have been seeing this problem on both our Epson 3800 and 2400 printers. Here's the setup that we have:

G4 towers and G5 Imacs running 10.4.11
Adobe Photoshop 11.01
All displays calibrated.
Latest Epson printer drivers installed.

When I print a color test chart on CS3, the colors match the display. However on CS4 it looks very dark and muddy... almost as if preserve color numbers had been checked on in proofing. I'm using the identical workflow for both programs, along with the canned Epson profiles which have worked great so far. I've also tried the Epson UK drivers, deleting and adding the printer and making it the default one, with no luck. At this point, I'm going to attempt a re-install, but I'm not holding my breath.

If anyone hears of anything...Thanks in advance!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:39 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


It sounds as if you are going to have to invest in Custom Profiles for your printers?

I can only tell you that CS4 printing works perfectly for me (ie: it prints as an almost identical match to the Soft Proof preview for the correct Paper Profile, plus Simulated Paper Color, on an Epson R1900 from a G5 on OSX 10.4.11).

To what intensity/brightness are you calibrating your Monitor?

And by how much does the printed and dried result differ from View menu/Proof Colors (when set-up to simulate paper color?

You may just need to re-calibrate and profile your monitors to a lower Intensity?


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