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Today's topics:
* Brooks Institute - 7 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/6660e6750a10dca2?hl=en
* how to make other people image more beautiful - 11 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/f08725837ab49db7?hl=en
* CR2 and XMP File issues. - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/29a48398a992dd70?hl=en
* D700 crop factor - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/b69283b5682a12a5?hl=en
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TOPIC: Brooks Institute
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/6660e6750a10dca2?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 9:48 pm
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com
True all through the history of art.
What's your point?
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:57 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
As I wrote I often plan what i do I expect things to happen nothing is really static in this universe so the idea that you cannot anticipate things happening is not really valid as you are almost certain that there will be opportunities.
If you take the approach that you can only get unique images because you were there at the time you will restrict your self rather then free yourself and open yourself to the possibilities.
Making rules and assumptions like this is not a good idea.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 6:45 am
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com
A couple of aphorisms are worthwhile here:
1) "Always tell the truth, but don't always be telling it"
-Anon
2) "Those who know do not say
Those who say do not know"
-Lao Tzu
3) Go back to 1.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:06 pm
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com
Post #23 applies equally to… post#23.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:10 pm
From: Ken_Nielsen@adobeforums.com
"I don't now about this, I often plan what I am going to do even in know ing the type of traffic, pedestrian and o vehicular or air traffic or wildlife interaction which to some degree can be predicted according to the time of day, or astrological events, weather and seasons, foliage etc.
Lots and lots of different circumstances and then make this say what it has to say, everything has a profound effect on us no matter how mundane it may seem to us.
We learn to see better and better as time passes and therefore what looks ordinary to day may seem beautiful tomorrow.
I just heard a brilliant performance by the Chicago Symphony at Carnegie Hall of a piece by Leos Janacek called Sinfonietta they say when the piece was first performed people just thought just was just bad composing and when it started off i thought myself OMG but that soon turned to amazement as the orchestra was really fired up by the conductor Pierre Boulez who was absolutely brilliant.
So now what was once thought to be nothing is performed brilliantly and was one of the best performances I have gone to this year.
So things change as we get to develop our understanding of what we see, at least that is how I have gotten to see things. "
That's what I want on my tombstone.
Spoken like a true artist Wade. Very nice. It's good to be excited about things, deeply excited. To hell with the mundane, give me fire and ice, and let me express what I see through brush, pen or camera lens.
Keep up the good work,
Ken
PS: and as soon as I get my bearings on my new work situation, I'm going to ravage my credit card with the purchase of the new D5. Definitely the next step up for me. anyway.
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:32 pm
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com
Post #23 applies equally to… post#24.
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:13 pm
From: Cindy@adobeforums.com
You also have Art Center in Pasedena
I went to Art Center for a short period of time when it was still in Los Angeles. Unfortunately I was very young and not ready to make a serious commitment. It had very stimulating energy.
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TOPIC: how to make other people image more beautiful
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/f08725837ab49db7?hl=en
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:55 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
But back to the topic making people look good is to photograph them as they are and as Linda said in the first place see them as being beautiful.
There is a photograph of Albert Einstein that is great and shows him as the person he probably really was and the image is quite an expression. I can't be certain but I do not detect any retouching.
There is a photograph of the actress Frances Farmer by Edward Steichen that is my favorite portrait photo over any other portrait and it does not at all look retouched in any way. the lighting is subtle and simple as well.
I think when you retouch a retouch a portrait you insult the subject. If someone asks for it then…well it is their call but it is no longer a portrait of the person.
== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 9:18 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com
I think when you retouch a retouch a portrait you insult the subject.
If someone asks for it then…well it is their call but it is no longer
a portrait of the person.
I disagree.
IMO every image is contrived by definition. For example every portrait is modified by the photog's choice of aperture/DOF, focal length, lighting, film type, etc.
== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 10:57 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
Do you really believe that?
== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 11:19 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
A painter or sculptor portrays their subjects in the way that they perceive them and they try to embody that experience in their media in such a manner that they hope that you, the viewer, will perceive and share their vision.
As a photographer, I do the same thing … and I will use whatever tools that I need either before taking the shot (in my case, it is usually BEFORE) or afterwards to attain that result.
== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 12:57 pm
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com
Do you really believe that?
Yes or I would not have written it.
Do you really opine that taking the shine off a nose in post is all that different from doing it with makeup? Or that selecting Portra instead of Velvia is less "modifying" than adjusting white balance in post?
== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 1:13 pm
From: -shep-@adobeforums.com
Just look at the photo I took of Peter Figen, she can definitely make
the cover of vogue!
How did Peter make you look so good, Wade?
:)
;)
== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 1:28 pm
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
Well I don't know Peter's secret!
== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:36 pm
From: Laurentiu_G_Todie@adobeforums.com
ceci n'est pas une top model : )
== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:11 pm
From: Silkrooster@adobeforums.com
I can see Wade's point. It's the same as a woman putting on makeup. Most women don't even need any, some may need just enough to cover the defect that they think they have. But it is also possible to put on way too much makeup making the woman look horrible.
Touch up on a photo can do the same thing. Especially if the person doing the touch up, does not know when to stop.
I don't know about you guys, but i would take a bare faced woman over a clown any day. :)
== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:28 pm
From: Ozpeter@adobeforums.com
The problem with retouching a portrait perhaps arises when the subject finds that what you have done emphasises, to them, the original flaw - until you remove or reduce it, they might not have been particularly aware of it, but your implied 'criticism' of the flaw can then heighten their awareness of it.
In other cases, they might well be grateful. Perhaps it's a matter of what and how much, and individual judgment of particular cases rather than a hard and fast rule.
For me, I am who I am, warts and all.
== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:39 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
The problem with professional portraiture is that the "Product" and the "Client" are one and the same.
Danger: Explosive mixture — proceed with all due caution ….
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TOPIC: CR2 and XMP File issues.
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/29a48398a992dd70?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 2:58 pm
From: Corey_Lester@adobeforums.com
I'm an independant contractor working for a local photography studio, and we have run into an issue with sending updated files across the network, over from my external drive, and other such methods. We've working tirelessly for hours to break down what the problem is, and after purging our caches, copying files, making new directories, and trying anything we can think of; we've run into a wall we can't get past.
Our conclusion is that there is an issue with my machine. The major variable is that I run Windows Vista.
If anyone can offer any advice. I don't want the typical "Upgrade to solve your problem" everyone gives. I want some actual help.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:38 pm
From: John_Cornicello@adobeforums.com
What is the issue?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:24 pm
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com
CLICK HERE <http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?50@@.2cd06cd9> for advice on how to ask your question correctly for quicker answers. Thanks!
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 5:05 pm
From: Silkrooster@adobeforums.com
How are you transferring your files? With Explorer, bridge or version cue? A different program?
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TOPIC: D700 crop factor
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/b69283b5682a12a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 3:21 pm
From: -shep-@adobeforums.com
Hate to break topic here, couldn't remember what thread I saw this in.
Donald, was it you that mentioned a few weeks ago about a 1 terabyte hard drive you found---I think at Target---for less than $100.
Was it Target?
What was the price?
Was that a special sale do you know?
What brand?
Thanks. Sorry for the hijacking of the thread.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 4:28 pm
From: Donald_Reese@adobeforums.com
Shep, i think the one i mentioned was a 750 gig maxtor for 139 as i recall. thats the one I got anyway
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 11 2009 6:00 pm
From: -shep-@adobeforums.com
I could have sworn someone mentioned a 1 TB drive for around $100...ah, well.
Did you get it at Target, Donald?
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