Friday, March 6, 2009

adobe.photography - 25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Traveling is it Better to Rent or Transport? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/24a93a312e90b6cf?hl=en
* Epson Stylus R1900 special buy - 10 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ec147a00fbb0bf1f?hl=en
* to make my image into watermark - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/07acc1f70818710e?hl=en
* overlay images? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/c4efe85928509289?hl=en
* Adobe Articles at Pro Photo Solutions page - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/23770ceb935024da?hl=en
* How to compress Huge file output? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/943e277767e44283?hl=en
* Where were you? (part four) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ab8c6a7a2987240a?hl=en
* Good Photograph Selfphone<any idea> - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/3c768d20911dec35?hl=en

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TOPIC: Traveling is it Better to Rent or Transport?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/24a93a312e90b6cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 5 2009 11:42 pm
From: Ozpeter@adobeforums.com


Nice indeed. Shades of the Thames Barrier in those 'shells'.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:48 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Shades of the Thames Barrier in those 'shells'.


Actually one would probably find it hard to avoid that effect with this subject.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 9:44 am
From: Laurentiu_G_Todie@adobeforums.com


backlight

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TOPIC: Epson Stylus R1900 special buy
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ec147a00fbb0bf1f?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:01 am
From: ashleykaryl@adobeforums.com


I had a whole long message here which somehow got lost when I had problems logging in, so here is the short version!

The old printer packed up, so I did some research and bought a used R1800 rather than the new R1900. The R1900 sometimes gets mentioned with banding issues and I can't live with that in a printer. Then I did some more research and decided to get a CIS from inkjetfly which took about 45 minutes to install taking care and deliberately going slowly. I get great results with no problems and save roughly 90% in ink costs which is the single biggest cost on printers. I now get results which knock spots off anything I could achieve with my previous printers such as the Canon i9100, Epson 1290 or the Epson 2100. For anybody doing lots of printing I'd seriously consider getting a good CIS.


== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:08 am
From: ashleykaryl@adobeforums.com


For those who aren't aware CIS stands for continuous ink system


== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:36 am
From: Fred_Nirque@adobeforums.com


I've run CIS since 1999 (Conetech's Piezography B&W back then, on an Epson 1100), and then installed a colour CIS on my R2400 soon after I bought it about four years ago.

Sure it saved in ink costs (and in the day there was no real alternative to the Piezography system), but in both cases the ink blockages that increased in frequency and stubbornness with age became a hassle not worth the effort.

The 1100 eventually expired with a complete failure of the electronics, but the R1200 was rendered useless when the LLK head blocked up. No amount of cleaning with every forced cleaning method I can find has been able to free up the head, with at least 50% of the nozzles permanently blocked.

My Epson 7800 meanwhile, bought a few months after the R2400, has never had anything more than temporary blockages in one or two of the M, C, and LK heads, always cleared by a single clean and a few hours rest. Only genuine Epson inks have gone through this printer, and it has had at least as much if not more use than the R2400.

The Epson ink in the large cartridges in the wide format printer range is only marginally dearer than the CIS bulk inks for the smaller printers, so perhaps the best answer is to buy a larger format printer for an admittedly higher initial cost, but with similar running costs with genuine ink as a small printer has with CIS and non-genuine inks.


== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:43 am
From: ashleykaryl@adobeforums.com


You may well be right on that score and only time will tell how this works out in the long run but so far its been smooth sailing and I read an awful lot of reviews and spoke to several experts before I opted for this combination. Regarding the big beasts like the 7800 I just wouldn't have the space in my office to keep one.


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 7:40 am
From: john_passaneau@adobeforums.com


On a good note, my rebate card for the R1900 came today. The printer is
working very well. The prints look great. The ink carts don't last all
that long and I'm really using up the black but much of what I do has a
pure black background. I really like the printer wish it had bigger ink
carts.

John Passaneau


== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 10:25 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


The Epson ink in the large cartridges in the wide format printer range
is only marginally dearer than the CIS bulk inks for the smaller printers,
so perhaps the best answer is to buy a larger format printer for an admittedly
higher initial cost

Regarding the big beasts like the 7800 I just wouldn't have the space
in my office to keep one.


Space is also an issue for me, but the SP3800 provides a reasonable footprint at reasonable price and takes all kinds of sheet fed paper up to A2/17x22.

I did some research and bought a used R1800 rather than the new R1900...
Then I did some more research and decided to get a pigment ink CIS...
The prints with this set up knock spots off anything I could achieve with
my previous printers such as the Canon i9100, Epson 1290 or the Epson
2100.


I don't know about the i9100 but the 1290 and 2100 are legacy printers. Out-printing them is a given. Comparing to the R1900 or SP3800 would be the meaningful comparisons. In my Epson experience (1200, 1270, 1280, 2200, 3800) each new model has printed better than the last, the step from 12xx to 2200 being really huge.

...save roughly 90% in ink costs which is the single biggest cost on printers.


I would be interested in seeing the raw cost data over a long period of time, including time spent maintaining the CIS system vs. a printer like the SP3800. Also how many prints per day are involved. E.g. in my case a few years ago I literally print constantly but not as much today. My guess is that there is a daily volume break point where CIS becomes long term cost effective.


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 11:02 am
From: ashleykaryl@adobeforums.com


I work from home and my office area is basically a converted bedroom which has all my computer stuff on one long desk but then I also have some big shelf wall units that are laden with paperwork, lighting equipment, camera gear and all the rest. Its fine but I have to stay organised and there really wouldn't be space for anything bigger than a large A3 printer here on the desk.

The i9100 produced fairly decent colours but it was plagued by micro banding and it was a dye ink printer so the prints never lasted any kind of reasonable period unless they were mounted behind glass. The old Epson 2100 I had printed images as flat as a pancake and this put me off the pigment printers for quite a while even though I really wanted the longer life prints. I remember the 2100 also seemed to suffer from all sorts of other problems like ink leakage and an inability to feed paper properly which eventually became really annoying since I was spending a small fortune in Epson inks. The new set up I have seems to combine the best of all worlds so far and its a much more refined machine in every way.

Yes I really need to measure the costs here over an extended period but after the cost of the initial CIS you'll generally find that 1 Epson cartridge costs roughly the same as one CIS colour refill but the CIS refill will contain 100ml of ink. As far as maintenance goes there has been none at all so far.

I do switch on the printer once every couple of days if its not being used just to stop the heads from blocking up but I had to do the same thing with the Epson or Canon cartridges and the R1800 always seems to print a perfect or near perfect nozzle check with no additional cleaning required. This particular system has auto resetting chips, so you never lose that big chunk of ink which normally occurs when you change a single cartridge and it goes through a big cleaning cycle for all the colours. Like everything I think the better CIS systems have improved a lot over the years.


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 11:07 am
From: Nick_Decker@adobeforums.com


Space is also an issue for me, but the SP3800 provides a reasonable footprint
at reasonable price and takes all kinds of sheet fed paper up to A2/17x22.


Actually, you can print much longer than 22". The actual length limit is more like 37" (I don't have the computer that's hooked up to my 3800 fired up at the moment, so I'm not sure of the exact figure.) Of course, you won't likely find cut-sheets at that size, but you can certainly find 17" rolls of a variety of papers. Since the 3800 isn't really intended to be roll-fed, you'll need jury-rig a method of holding the tail-end of the paper before it goes into the printer, but that's not hard. I love my 3800.


== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 11:39 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Yeah, early on I considered cutting roll paper for the 3800 and decided it was too much trouble. However I should relook at that and do the math on costs.

And I too sure do like the printer.


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:15 pm
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


I actually just printed the image of Peter's portrait from Photoshop and that was very good but it was really excellent from ID CS4.

I sent Peter the one from Photoshop but will send him this one as well I think he will related much better to the image printed from ID though there really is only a small difference.

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TOPIC: to make my image into watermark
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/07acc1f70818710e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 4:43 am
From: cjmah@adobeforums.com


how to make my image into watermark


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:55 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


For what purpose how do you wish to apply the watermark?

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TOPIC: overlay images?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/c4efe85928509289?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:18 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com


I like what you ended up doing Donald.

As as side note, it's been refreshing to see the camaraderie in this forum recently. And generous advice both here and in the Mac thread, and others. This is the kind of spirit that made these forums so special in the first place. So happy to see it returning.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:50 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


So happy to see it returning.


I think I can fix this…let me think about the best and strongest way of going about this


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:59 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com


I think I can fix this…let me think about the best and strongest way of
going about this


:-)


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 9:31 am
From: Donald_Reese@adobeforums.com


Thanks, i am always amazed how your perception can change when you see someone else put their spin on something. I definitely like my second attempt better, but i dont know if i could repeat it if i had too.

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TOPIC: Adobe Articles at Pro Photo Solutions page
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/23770ceb935024da?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:35 am
From: PerfectMoney@adobeforums.com


I already use Adobe CS3 for editing,so far so good.but combining with that resources I certainly learn something to use my skill at CS at higher level

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TOPIC: How to compress Huge file output?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/943e277767e44283?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:40 am
From: PerfectMoney@adobeforums.com


I know I am a newbie here in digital printing,and my simple question is.I have build a good banner with adobe flash combine with photoshop CS,and my problem is at the result the file is to huge and need to compress,but I don't know how.any advice to compress it


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:46 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


I am not certain what you have done and where you should post this but the photography forum does not seem like the right place and your description of what you have doe is not specific enough


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 1:10 pm
From: pfigen


How are you printing this banner, and what is the current image size of you file? Your file might be larger than in needs to be for how you're printing it. If it is, then sizing it down to a more appropriate size will shrink the file size.

What file format is the file in now? If it's a tiff, you can open the file and do a Save As and check the zip compression options in the save dialog. That will compress your file too.

Alternatively, you can save a zipped archive of the file, which may save space too.

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TOPIC: Where were you? (part four)
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ab8c6a7a2987240a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:44 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Writers do! They hate to write but love to have written!

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TOPIC: Good Photograph Selfphone<any idea>
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/3c768d20911dec35?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 6 2009 6:55 am
From: PerfectMoney@adobeforums.com


I plan to go out and need to documents "good picture quality "with no heavy gadget from Canon ,do you have any idea,is that cybershot as sample"reliable for mobile use.or is there any self phone can do this job,I am sorry if I have a bad English.I look here recommendation ,tools to shoot that is light and reliable

Thanks to read


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