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TOPIC: Photoshop 7.0.1
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/33f5b95b06418421?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 6:25 am
From: Nicolas_COQ@adobeforums.com

Hello,

I have a serious issue with Adobe Photoshop 7.0.1 (I had it before updating to 7.0.1) :

When I'm working, every 10-20 minutes, Photoshop makes randomly the computer reboot ...
My computer is a bit old, but it was a time i didn't have any problem, and no other software or game makes my computer reboot (I tried to reinstall windows (currently XP SP3) but this didn't change anything).

Is there a way to fix that please ? I'm very bothered, because i always lose data ...

Thanks a lot in advance :)

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:07 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

usually rebooting is a sign of a hardware problem. check to see if it's really rebooting or throwing a blue screen and rebooting by going into my computer> properties> advanced> startup & recovery and uncheck "automatically restart". if it still reboots, you have something wrong hardware wise, usually ram, cpu, mobo related. if it goes to a blue screen error, you probably have a bad driver somewhere.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:37 am
From: Nicolas_COQ@adobeforums.com

Thanks for your reply.

I'm absolutely sure it doesn't show any BSOD, but i don't think it is due to an hardware problem, because it's the only software that makes the computer rebooting (even softwares and games that uses a lot of CPU, RAM or GPU does't makes it rebooting).

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:51 am
From: "Phos±four dots"

FAQ on the subject by Photoshop engineer Chris Cox:

"Computer locks up, shuts down, or reboots while running Photoshop"
<http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.ef47fb1/2>

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:51 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

because it's the only software that makes the computer rebooting

software doesn't make a modern operating system reboot. xp and vista are "process isolated" which means that when a process (application) goes down, it can't take the rest down with it. something photoshop is doing is exposing a hardware problem you have. other apps may not hit that problem, or hit it in the same way, but PS does.

my last upgrade was due to something similar where only ps made the system reboot. i've since reused that old ram and the cpu in my daughter's system, which leads me to believe there was a fault somewhere on the mobo (after about 4 years of use).

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 8:21 am
From: Nicolas_COQ@adobeforums.com

Ok thanks you two for your help.

So the only solution for me is replacing RAM ? (i'm on a laptop)

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 8:53 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

that's not what i said... :)

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:39 am
From: Nicolas_COQ@adobeforums.com

Lol, so what could be the solution please ?

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TOPIC: wacom tablet + CS4 + No pressure sensitivity
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/6c0eaa75555008f5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 6:35 am
From: Aldemar_Hernández@adobeforums.com

I'm checking frequently the manufacturer's site for an update but Nothing yet. I don't know if this issue for Wacom users is Now Solved?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:30 am
From: Kent_C@adobeforums.com

The issue of 'losing tools' is _not solved_ with Wacom afaik. I still have the issue and have checked occasionally for newer Wacom drivers. I'll check again today.

I stilll had CS3 installed and there was some notes that might be part of the problem, but my attempt to uninstall CS3 failed 3 times.

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TOPIC: Pixel Bender Filters
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a739b5d2b70a7efe?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:31 am
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com

I am interested in Pixel Blender.

However, it does not mention my Vista 64 bit system. The site reads XP SP2 and above but unless it reads Vista 64 bit I am not biting. Vista gets very cranky over having certified drivers.

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TOPIC: CS4 Extended - Lenticular Printing
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/c946ea9ead734866?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 7:54 am
From: Angela_Wu@adobeforums.com

I haven't seen the video yet but that will be great if Photoshop can handle lenticular by itself. Normally we use Photoshop to do the prep work and then use 3rd party software to handle the interlacing.

Flip is actually easier then 3D. You just need to interlace two pictures and then combine them. My guess is you can treat the two pictures as the assets for 3D and let CS4 do the interlacing for you if it can do that.

In case you need to have print them, I found this company does a great job, www.newcyberian.com. This is a dvd duplication company but they also do lenticular printing for the DVD slip covers.

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 is a disaster
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 8:06 am
From: malojo@adobeforums.com

CS4 a disaster? No, I don't think so. It has its problems for sure and its really hard to figure all out in betatests because of the million different computers out there.
See my configuration: <http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7022d/21> for example. I am really sure that this kind of configuration is not for the common standard user.
If have also some problems and I am very sure that this will be fixed if it is possible.
I'm also involed in producing software ( computer games ) and I know what I am talking about.
You can do a lot with betatests but not all. Even when now all the availible graphic cards are added.

I think CS4 is a huge step ahead and for me the first time buying the Extended Edition to get all the cool 3d tools.
Of course there are other programs which might be better for 3d editing such as Bodypaint but you know what...it would cost me a lot more.
Photoshop is the standard I need and when I can get an edition where I can paint my 3d models and get the flexibility to use all photoshop functions ( I don't thing Bodypaint has the same functionallity ) for some bucks ( Upgrade ) more and even can paint directly or use the textures which are also stored in the same psd that is amazing.
As my texture coordinates are usally correct when I start using PS in the texturing process I am a lot more flexible. No more searching for the right position or switching between the applications.

To sum it up. Yes there might be other programs which can do some tasks faster then PS but I think with the complete functionality PS is alone. And this kind of programs are designed for just that task. PS wants to do all.
So before blaming Adobe, give them some time and help them to fix upcoming issues. Bugsearching is always not very easy in software development.

Greethings from Germany,

Matthias

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:46 am
From: Phil_Flowers@adobeforums.com

Why have adobe stripped out the The Picture Package functions, Bridge CS4 is no substitute and light room 2 don't cut it either.
As a busy photographic studio Not having picture package is a reason NOT to go to CS4. The GUI issues are a side show compared to the throwing away the best auto production on the market. Adobe talk about cutting of your own Nose to Spite....? unless I'm missing something, it's good night CS4 you aint got what Photographers need

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TOPIC: Why are some filters not available if an image is 16 bit?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/46b69d0fb8c61227?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:23 am
From: polara@adobeforums.com

Can someone give me the technical and/or practical reasons as to why many of the Artistic filters are not available and are "grayed out" if an image is in 16 bit mode? This limitation has always puzzled me and is continued in CS4, so I am assuming that Adobe intends things to be this way. Can anyone explain why Photoshop works this way for 16 bit images? Also, do you really gain anything by staying in 16 bit or lose any quality converting to 8 bit?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:40 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com

Can someone give me the technical and/or practical reasons as to why many
of the Artistic filters are not available and are "grayed out" if an image
is in 16 bit mode?

Because they are 8bit!, but I think you knew that already. ;-) In simple words: Most of these filters are a combination of threshold, edge detection, dilation and blur operations, with some Fractal Noise thrown in here and there and there is no benefit in having them run in 16bit, as in most cases they will completely overwrite the previous pixel values. It would be possible, though.

Also, do you really gain anything by staying in 16 bit or lose any quality
converting to 8 bit?

It all depends on what you do. Higher bit depths provide greater precision which is in particular relevant for photo touch-up and color corrections. Depending on the resolution of your image it also affects smoothness of gradation for gradients, blurs and so on, which is a simple math thing - when the distance spanned by a gradation is greater then the number of available pixel values, not every pixel can have a unique color any more. Therefore neighboring pixels may be assigned the same colors (banding) or interwoven with alternating pixel colors (dithering). Once that has happened, there is no way to restore the original smooth gradients, so you may wish to keep that in mind...

Mylenium

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:02 am
From: polara@adobeforums.com

there and there is no benefit in having them run in 16bit, as in most
cases they will completely overwrite the previous pixel values. It would
be possible, though.

OK then, this partially explains it, but if it is possible to make these filters work in 16 bit, then why don't they? I always assume that if something in PS is a certain way, then that is how Adobe intends me to do it. But the "8 bit only" filters thing seems to be at odds with keeping images at their highest quality throughout the work flow.

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TOPIC: Missing Fonts
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/71da9084571363cb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:43 am
From: "Vinod Balakrishnan"

Looks like you have some valid text in the Type layer and got stuck with one of those symbol fonts like Digbats/WebDings. You got stuck with these fonts since you have the "Missing Font Protection" checked in the Type preference panel. If you turn off the "Missing Glyph Protection" in the Type preference, the problem will go away.

-Vinod
Photoshop Engineer

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 impressions: many problems
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/09c363a4111fa878?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:44 am
From: Oliver_H_Sparrow@adobeforums.com

However, two hour later, CS4 crashed, spent 30 senconds communicating with Microsoft and lost an hour's work. An error message pointed to incompatible drivers, and that it had disabled GPU drivers. I have no idea what that means, but it reinforces the sense that this is a beta product released far too soon.

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TOPIC: Monitor Woes
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/5185e12f9b27beb7?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:58 am
From: Karla_Kraus@adobeforums.com

I have a 146 gig hard drive with 3 gigs of ram. I�m currently using PS10 as part of CS3 to finish a job and will then be loading CS4 with the new Photoshop, which I have. I tried Vista Ultimate and after nearly cracking up, went back to XP Pro SP3. I had a Nec Multisynch CRT and decided to go for a new LCD monitor�a Lacie 320, which I�m most unhappy with.

The problem is screen resolution. According to the Lacie specs, monitors should be set at 1600 x 1200. At that resolution, Photoshop as well as the rest of the CS, and the visuals that I create in PS, are all minuscule, and my three websites look stupid. I called Lacie tech support, and they said that I could go down to 1400 x 1050 but no further without distortion.

There are three problems: 1) Even with adjustments in XP, I still have to keep my nose to the screen at 1400 x 1050 to see PS menus, read PS help etc., and would like the resolution to be at 1024 x 768; 2) indeed, 48+ % of computer users have monitors set at 1024 x 768 or lower and will have the pleasure of seeing what I cannot see and would like to see; 3) 38 % of computer users have monitors set at 1920 x 1200 and will see my work as postage stamps, I think

Qs:

1) Should I go for another LCD monitor that will give me an undistorted 1024 x 768, if such a thing exists?

2) Any other solution invited.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:12 am
From: Bob Levine

LCDs MUST be run at their native resolution especially for work as
critical as Photoshop.

My advice...get yourself to the eye doctor.

Bob

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:24 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com

3) Test a monitor before buying so that it suits your eyes.

While I wasn't looking for a high end display for color critical work, I just found a perfectly usable piece of junk that has roughly the same resolution, roughly the same size, and probably made by the same child labor in China... but with a better response time and higher contrast ratio for about $150. That's a little cheaper than the $950 you paid.

The question about 'an undistorted 1024 x 768, if such a thing exists?' indicates you could do a bit more shopping. There are plenty of options out there.

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TOPIC: Problem with Arrange Documents
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/86464940a17b58a1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 9:59 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com

No. These issues occur on other systems as well. However, there is no clear way to reproduce this, so it never got resolved during testing. I've had this happen a number of times. In my cases it seems to depend on how long the program has been used without switching layouts and possibly whether e.g. the adjustment panel has been used multiple times during a session. but as I said - this is sporadic and seems arbitrary. I'd keep watching it and when you encounter a situation where it makes sense, write a note on the bug report form ( <http://www.adobe.com/go/wish> ).

Mylenium

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TOPIC: JPEG problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/99033e5d67e0b895?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:24 am
From: "Tom A Elliott"

Cant save as a jpeg due to program error.
I rest preferences still cant save as jpeg in CS2 V9

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TOPIC: CS4 Extended uses wrong graphic card
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/41348884655086d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 18 2008 10:37 am
From: malojo@adobeforums.com

No additional ideas at all? :(

Regards,
Matthias

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