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TOPIC: Olympus launches micro 4/3 camera
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/106fab96d8be9fe1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:30 pm
From: John Turco

John Navas wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:19:47 -0500, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
> wrote in <4A3F3EA3.1BAA616@concentric.net>:
>
> >Marty Fremen wrote:
> >>
> >> ASAAR <caught@22.com> wrote:
> >> . Knowledgeable
> >> > managers have started to criticize Olympus's management for not
> >> > realizing how popular the camera was going to be, so it's going to
> >> > be in very short supply for a very long time,
> >>
> >> That's why they made such a crap website, to limit demand to a level
> >> they could cope with. Never underestimate the Japanese!
> >
> >Quite right! Those inscrutable devils are so damned cunning, it's
> >a mystery why they lost World War II...they must have suffered a
> >collective "brain outage," at Midway? <g>
>
> Not relevant to the silly diatribe that doesn't even apply to the proper
> website, and offensive to boot. How nice.

Hello, John:

It was just an "inside joke," with no disrespect intended. Japan's key
naval defeat, in the Battle of Midway, was partially due to American
Magic...if you know what I mean?

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:31 pm
From: John Turco

Alfred Molon wrote:
>
> In article <4A3F3E6C.8D7DFFFF@concentric.net>, John Turco says...
>
> > These offending Web designers have no consideration for dial-up users
> > (such as myself), apparently.
>
> There is no broadband service in your area?

Hello, Alfred:

There is, but, I'm unwilling to pay a price premium for it.

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:31 pm
From: John Turco

John Navas wrote:
>
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:18:52 -0500, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
> wrote in <4A3F3E6C.8D7DFFFF@concentric.net>:
>
> >David J Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >> David J Taylor wrote:
> >> > Alfred Molon wrote:
> >> >> http://www.olympus-europa.com/consumer/pen.htm?olycmp=912222#intro
> >> >
> >> > Warning - this Web site has "music" on many pages!
> >> >
> >> > David
> >>
> >> .. meaning that I, for one, will simply switch away from that site.
>
> >I readily concur! Glitzy embellishments are not only extremely annoying,
> >but, they take >much< longer to load, if one is on a slow connection.
> >
> >These offending Web designers have no consideration for dial-up users
> >(such as myself), apparently.
>
> I'm guessing they think typical dial-up users are not sufficiently
> technically inclined to be a significant marketing concern.

Hello, John:

It's much more likely that, they doubt dial-up dummies could afford their
expensive DSLR cameras. :-J

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: Inkjets
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/11a2afc88d5ea5a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:31 pm
From: John Turco

Willie Stroker wrote:

<heavily edited for brevity>

> Certainly HP make some interesting printers but by and by Epson make the
> most professional printers. I own both Epson and HP wide format
> printers. The HP costs roughly 45% of what the Epson costs to run but
> it's dye inks require speciality paper not easily found in Australia.
>
> The Epson's cost of running comes down when you use 3rd part inks and
> their real value is in the variety of materials they can print on.
>
> My next wide format printer will also be an Epson because whilst HP are
> interesting, the lack of service from HP in providing a continuous
> supply of their papers and canvas is definitely going to sink them long
> term. It's like a good product let down by poor service.

Hello, Willie:

I'm through with Epson, forever! Never, again, will I buy >any< of that
company's overrated products.

> With age come a new ability ...multi-tasking.
> I can laugh, cough, sneeze, fart and pee all at the same time!

No comment. <g>

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: simple question...maybe
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:31 pm
From: John Turco

Nicko wrote:
>
> At what resolution do you save photos that you show people on the web?
> Not photos to be used for specific purposes in web pages, but photos to
> be posted just to show to people, say, in a personal gallery.
>
> Or, I guess more specifically, what is the most common resolution that
> people (not necessarily photographers, just average people) have their
> monitors set at?
>
> I'm having a hard time deciding what I should use as a default. I have
> been using 96ppi, because that's a compromise between 72ppi (way too
> coarse) and 120ppi(files too big?), which is the native resolution of my
> 19" monitor, but will the larger dimensions of photos annoy people who
> are still running monitors at 72ppi on smaller screens? I don't think
> that bandwidth is of much of a concern, but correct me if I am wrong
> (how many people are actually still using dialup service?).
>
> Cheers!

Hello, Nicko:

I'm a dial-up slug, and my Sceptre 24" LCD monitor (model X24WG) is
always running at its native resolution of 1920x1200 pixels.

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: Anything for the Perfect Shot
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/060da06a542937ca?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:32 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7mk8459oinbtct2gjf5o7su21kvaji5ig1@4ax.com...
> "Bill Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> wrote:
>>You've got to be kidding......I have spent many hundreds of hours
>>reconfiguring my machine to get it to function the way I want it to. It
>>still doesn't, "function optimally" because of dozens of pop-ups that slow
>>it down, and annoy me, usually at start-up. I spend many unhappy hours
>>removing extraneous software from it in order to get rid of these, but
>>many
>>still keep coming back, inexplicably, even though I go through the
>>"proper"
>>procedure to get rid of them.
>
> And you really still wonder, why you need different accounts/account
> types for daily work and for system adminstration?
> Oh man, that is about as dense as depleated uranium.
>
> [...]
>>To me, its still up in the air
>>weather or not it is worth all the trouble it gives me. To be sure, it
>>does
>>do, or is at least capable of doing some miraculous things, but at the
>>same
>>time, it generates so many problems that most of the time I find that I am
>>behind schedule trying to keep up with it.
>
> Would you drive a car without receiving proper instruction first? Would
> you pilot an airplane without proper training?

No, but then I doubt if I could kill anyone with my computer, so learning
the hard way is no real problem. Don't forget that I am 73 and retired. I
used computers in my job for most of my life, and I learned their operating
systems well enough to get the job done. Unfortunately, every new machine
has a different operating system, so I had to learn several during my
lifetime, and now, using them as a hobby, is no different. I still have to
learn a different operating system every time I change machines. Some people
love this. I do not. I even learned a programming language once, and
acrtually wrote programs in it. But then, they changed the
language.....again and again, until I could no longer keep up. And they are
still changing the language, so I can't keep up with just using the damn
things.

>
> A computer is many, many times more complex than a small airplane and
> still people expect they could master it without any training. And then
> become frustrated when because of their self-taught attempts they make
> less progress than the Wright brothers.
>
> On my two systems I spent maybe 2-3 hours four times a year for
> maintenance, not more. And they mostly just run as I want them to run
> without any viruses and popups and annoying startup delays.
>
>>I have several friends who tell
>>me they are glad they don't own one of these beasts, and I find it very
>>hard
>>to argue with them. They certainly get to spend a lot more time with their
>>grandchildren than I do with mine.
>
> Piloting isn't for everyone, neither is administering a computer. There
> is a reason why qualified computer adminstrators are paid big money by
> big companies. Those companies know that being cheap can be very
> expensive.
>
> jue

Piloting an airplane is one of the most boring jobs there is. Operating a
computer is much more demanding, and administrating/programming one is more
interesting yet. Ay goofball can learn to pilot an airplane. But I can
barely use a computer, and I have a 140 IQ. Unfortunately, using a computer
well requires a lot of short term memory, and I was never good with short
term memory. And, the older I get, the worse my short term memory has
become.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 10:32 pm
From: Savageduck

On 2009-06-25 21:49:50 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> said:

>
> "John McWilliams" <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:h21j9h$4gn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2009062520543516807-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>>> Since you do not seem to actually RTFM to use what is available to you
>>>> and any user, on any computer, PC, Mac or Linux machine, it is probably
>>>> best that you continue to march to your different drum.
>>>
>>> What does, "RTFM" mean?
>>
>> RTFM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>> RTFM is an acronym for the statement "Read The Fucking Manual". This
>> instruction is sometimes given in response to a question when the
>> person being asked ...
>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RTFM
>>
>> The above was the first hit when said acronym was typed into the Google
>> search bar.
>
> Oh. This would be good advice, were I to have a F-ing manual, but alas,
> this is not the case. I do not even have the same machine I purchased.
> That one didn't work, so I had to replace the motherboard and CPU chip
> with another one. I do, however, have a good book on Windows VISTA.
> Now, if I only had the time to read it.........

Now, now.
Take all the time you are spending in these News Groups, and devote it
to reading that good book on Windows Vista.
Then put what you are able to glean from it, and report back in 2 or 3 months.

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Regards,

Savageduck

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:29 pm
From: Bob Larter

Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter@gmail.com> wrote in message
[...]
>> You know that in most browsers you can resize the fonts on websites,
>> right?
>
> No. I have no idea how to do that.

In Firefox, View => Zoom => Zoom_In. Do it as many times as you need to
get the size you want. Set View => Zoom => Zoom_Text_Only to stop it
enlarging images as well.

> But, I would also have to be able to
> change the contrast, to get them to like print BLACK on WHITE (for
> example) For some stupid reason, many sites print dark gray on light
> gray, or gray on a black background.

A quick & dirty method I use when sites do dumb things like that is to
select the offending text, which will highlight it, or hit CTRL+A to
select everything. The highlight will make just about any colour
combination easily visible.

> (in order to waste gallons of my
> ink when I try to print anything out)

In Firefox, View => Page Style => No Style, will remove all the
formatting, colours, etc.

> I have Windows VISTA. Trying to do
> anything on Windows Vista is kind of like pulling teeth with a pair of
> long nosed pliers. The only way I can disable programs (for example) is
> to change the names on their folders, so my machine can't find them on
> start up and I can get to actually use my machine for something within a
> half hour or so from when I turn it on......

Have you tried Add_Or_Remove_Programs, from the Control Panel?

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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:32 pm
From: Bob Larter

Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Robert Spanjaard" <spamtrap@arumes.com> wrote in message
> news:7930b$4a42a673$5469b618$31979@cache60.multikabel.net...
>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:14:13 -0700, Jürgen Exner wrote:
>>
>>>>> You know that in most browsers you can resize the fonts on websites,
>>>>> right?
>>>
>>> That depends. If HTML is used properly as Hyper _TEXT_ Markup Language,
>>> then yes. Unfortunately many, many web "designers" abuse HTML as page
>>> layout language with hardcoded font sizes. In those cases you are lost
>>> unless your browser offers a zoom functionality, which enlarges the
>>> whole page and all elements on the page, not just the font.
>>
>> In Firefox, you can choose between zooming the whole page, or just the
>> text.
>
> My natural instinct is to ask, "What's Firefox",

It's a really good free web browser:
<http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html>

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== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:37 pm
From: Bob Larter

Bill Graham wrote:
>
> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009062520543516807-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>> ...but then live with the consequences of that, and don't complain
>> even after you have been presented with solutions.
>> It is appears you live to complain, and having whatever you use
>> functioning optimally is not something you would put any effort into,
>> as you would not be able to complain about it.
>
> You've got to be kidding......I have spent many hundreds of hours
> reconfiguring my machine to get it to function the way I want it to. It
> still doesn't, "function optimally" because of dozens of pop-ups that
> slow it down, and annoy me, usually at start-up. I spend many unhappy
> hours removing extraneous software from it in order to get rid of these,
> but many still keep coming back, inexplicably, even though I go through
> the "proper" procedure to get rid of them. As a matter of fact, I have
> come to the conclusion that what this thing really is, is another TV
> set, whose basic purpose in life is to deliver ads to me under the guise
> of being some kind of useful tool and/or information source.

Unfortunately, this is the price you pay for using Internet Explorer
instead of a secure web browser, &/or for installing dodgy programs from
websites.

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\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:40 pm
From: Bob Larter

Savageduck wrote:
> On 2009-06-25 21:43:57 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9@comcast.net> said:
>
>>
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009062520543516807-savageduck@REMOVESPAMmecom...
>>> ...but then live with the consequences of that, and don't complain
>>> even after you have been presented with solutions.
>>> It is appears you live to complain, and having whatever you use
>>> functioning optimally is not something you would put any effort into,
>>> as you would not be able to complain about it.
>>
>> You've got to be kidding......I have spent many hundreds of hours
>> reconfiguring my machine to get it to function the way I want it to.
>> It still doesn't, "function optimally" because of dozens of pop-ups
>> that slow it down, and annoy me, usually at start-up. I spend many
>> unhappy hours removing extraneous software from it in order to get rid
>> of these, but many still keep coming back, inexplicably, even though I
>> go through the "proper" procedure to get rid of them. As a matter of
>> fact, I have come to the conclusion that what this thing really is, is
>> another TV set, whose basic purpose in life is to deliver ads to me
>> under the guise of being some kind of useful tool and/or information
>> source. To me, its still up in the air weather or not it is worth all
>> the trouble it gives me. To be sure, it does do, or is at least
>> capable of doing some miraculous things, but at the same time, it
>> generates so many problems that most of the time I find that I am
>> behind schedule trying to keep up with it. I have several friends who
>> tell me they are glad they don't own one of these beasts, and I find
>> it very hard to argue with them. They certainly get to spend a lot
>> more time with their grandchildren than I do with mine.
>
> Well that's Vista for ya!

Indeed.

> Time to sell that machine, put your feet up, and find a good book to read.

Personally, I'd upgrade it to XP.

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== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:43 pm
From: Bob Larter

ribbit wrote:
> Bob Larter wrote:
>> Drew Lawson wrote:
>>> In article <2aVrAgDDPIQKFAFS@phaedsys.demon.co.uk>
>>> Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> writes:
>>>> This is the real point. Viruses were originally on Unix (ie OSX) and
>>>> them moved to windows when it became popular.
>>>
>>> Refresh my memory of those.
>>
>> The only one that I'm aware of was the infamous Morris Worm.
>>
>>> The first I recall being called "viruses" were the boot-sector
>>> viruses in the DOS world, mid to late '80s. TSR turned evil.
>>>
>>> The DOS world was crawling with viruses long before Windows became
>>> the default MS interface.
>>
>> It sure was. A relative of mine made his fortune in the antivirus
>> industry, starting with a fix for the 'Stoned' boot-sector virus.
>>
>
> That was an easy thing to fix.
> Just use the back-up sector to overwrite the primary and re-boot the PC.
> kiddie tech stuff.

Boot from a clean floppy & "fdisk /mbr" is how I used to do it.

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TOPIC: How To Detect Snapshooters from Photographers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jun 25 2009 11:04 pm
From: Charlie Groh

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:31:19 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:17:43 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
>> wrote in <bfydnac3nZLFUN7XnZ2dnUVZ_jmonZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> Truer Dat wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 03:50:05 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3127@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [HUGE SNIP]
>>>>
>>> I think you will find that the focusing systems on modern cameras are
>>> faster, and more accurate than most humans. Now if you have something
>>> like a case where something large is closer than your subject, the
>>> camera can be confused, and the photographer can compensate. I always
>>> take note of this situation, and allow the camera to focus on my
>>> subject, then lock the focus, and recompose the shot.
>>
>> Please trim huge quotes to just a relevant portion, not the whole thing.
>> Thanks.
>>
>John,
> Maybe you have the time to do that, or a newsreader that makes it
>easy, but I have neither. Skipping to the end is vastly easier, and
>unless you are one of the 5% of people who are still using dialup for
>newsgroup access, why bother?

...courtesy to the readers of the "thread" (sometimes "hawser").
Better communication.

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