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* Scenic areas in England - 23 messages, 6 authors
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* Tripod recommendations - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Cheapest way to capture golf swing impact? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Raw converters - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Scenic areas in England
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/1076be556766c491?hl=en
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== 1 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:31 am
From: "Mike"
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:47:32 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:
>> I'm not confused, I'm asking a question about an American using a
>> words that's much more common here.
>
>The thing is that 'Americans' come from so many diverse places, and
>often bring their expressions, and vocabulary with them. When Americans
>hear a word they like, they may embrace it with glee, and use it often.
> It is how the American version of English evolves.
ROFL, that's how *English* evolved for gods sake, only Americans think
they are specially diverse or did something special with English while
everything in this thread proves in many areas there is an American
non diverse view of the world.
--
Mike
== 2 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:34 am
From: "Mike"
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:50:15 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:
>> there's no way they have to be rude unless approached with arrogance.
>
>I leave my arrogance at home with I travel outside my local area. If I
>wanted 'sameness', I could stay at home. Neither will I talk about the
>US president, Congress, or Judicial branch outside the country. It's
>downright rude, as well as presenting a view of the US which may give
>false impressions.
a discussion about the world does not have to be a lecture about the
US constitution. True, there is a stereotype of the American tourist
complaining "we don't do it that way back home" but there's no need to
be like that.
--
Mike
== 3 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:35 am
From: "Mike"
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:47 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:
>> and in UK we have letterboxes in the front door, a bigger difference
>> or not?
>
>Likely more secure. In the US, we have a lot of trouble in rural areas
>with people driving by and hitting them with baseball bats, or pipe.
>Then there are the guys who run a piece of 'drill-stem' (hardened pipe
>used for drilling wells), up through the inside of a large mail-box.
>Then when the box gets bashed, they tell the police to check the
>emergency rooms for guys with broken wrists! GREAT!
but then some nutter might stick burning rags through a letterbox,
there's pros and cons.
--
Mike
== 4 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:42 am
From: "Mike"
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:51:45 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:
>>> If you aren't too careful, you might find a photo essay on US Mail
>>> Boxes. Yes there is a standard mail box, but the imaginative variety of
>>> mail boxes around here would keep you busy for months.
>>
>> while if you came to the UK you will be hard put to find your first
>> mail box at all.................
>Post boxes?
I had a look, yes usually post box, but mail box would be well
understood and also used. "Letterbox" can be either where you post
letters or the hole in your front door.
Here's a nice old one by Tower Bridge
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/letterboxx.htm"
--
Mike
== 5 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:47 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 01:04:07 -0700, Savageduck
<savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>> we would need to travel outside our culture to somewhere that did anti
>> Mexican jokes to understand it.......
>
>So when can we expect a postcard from San Diego?
some time after the pandemic!
--
Mike
== 6 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:49 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 08:56:51 +0100, "Mike" <rubbish@live.com> wrote:
> barleycorn
LOL berlesconi, must actually *watch* the spellcheck
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Mike
== 7 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:50 am
From: Savageduck
On 2009-05-13 01:31:27 -0700, "Mike" <rubbish@live.com> said:
> On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:47:32 -0500, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> I'm not confused, I'm asking a question about an American using a
>>> words that's much more common here.
>>
>> The thing is that 'Americans' come from so many diverse places, and
>> often bring their expressions, and vocabulary with them. When Americans
>> hear a word they like, they may embrace it with glee, and use it often.
>> It is how the American version of English evolves.
>
> ROFL, that's how *English* evolved for gods sake, only Americans think
> they are specially diverse or did something special with English while
> everything in this thread proves in many areas there is an American
> non diverse view of the world.
One of the strange things about American English, was the local
influence of English regional accents the different English colonial
groups brought to the Eastern seaboard, from Boston, through Virginia
to Georgia.
The oddest are a number of isolated Appalachian communities which had
16th & 17th century Scots & West country English ties, where the
vocabulary, grammar, syntax and language in general remains frozen in
development and recognized as a little changed 16th Century English.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
== 8 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:53 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:21:09 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
wrote:
>>If Italy were to fall into a dictatorship under barleycorn it would be
>>because he owns the press and manipulates the judiciary, not because
>>ordinary citizens don't have pop guns in their lofts.
>
>I agree BUT usually the first sign of a democracy going bad is the
>removal of any means of the people being able to stop the process.
I'm beginning to wonder if its the concentration of power in a far
away place where the MEPs don't hold the power and we cannot dismiss
those with the real power and who are not directly elected. The first
sign is not when they take our guns, its when they only accept yes
answers in referenda. :-(
--
Mike
== 9 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:55 am
From: Savageduck
On 2009-05-13 01:47:30 -0700, "Mike" <rubbish@live.com> said:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 01:04:07 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>
>>> we would need to travel outside our culture to somewhere that did anti
>>> Mexican jokes to understand it.......
>>
>> So when can we expect a postcard from San Diego?
>
> some time after the pandemic!
It's OK, they are all using surgical masks, but to economize and make
the masks last longer, they lift them to sneeze.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
== 10 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 1:56 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:22:40 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
wrote:
>>People outside of the US know all this.
>
>Its because they don't travel out side the US.....
>(here we go again :-)
you could probably learn all that plus what anarchism is in an all
nighter in a Madrid bar, trouble is next day you cannot remember.
--
Mike
== 11 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:05 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:28:11 +0100, "Mike" <rubbish@live.com> wrote:
I missed this bit
>>>Tourism isn't just looking at the sights, its finding the differences.
>>
>>That's not the way I do "tourist".
there are different ways of doing travel, each to his own.
>While I may be wrong, I think I've
>>spent more time in your country as a tourist than you have in mine.
for sure. I do "intensive travel" to (generally) three countries only,
they are close by and have good food and stuff to snap in the street.
"http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/IMGP1722.htm" :-)
I like to learn about what makes the people tick to a different clock
than mine as well as girlwatching, eating, drinking and taking photos.
For instance, the Italian hopeless attitude to politics, the Spanish
siesta, bullfighting, how to eat pasta and how to look as elegant as
the Milanese. Also that "two pizza" actually ends in e.
>I have never initiated a political discussion in a pub.
I have :-)
--
Mike
== 12 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:07 am
From: William Black
Chris H wrote:
> In message <N9Kdncsw7ovM65fXnZ2dnUVZ_hdi4p2d@giganews.com>, Ron
Hunter
>> but keeping a handgun in order to protect your family, and property
>>from criminals is a bad thing,
>
> Yes.
> Private guns were never held in the UK for the reason above.
Firearms licenses for the purposes of self defense were probably
issued in England until 1953.
How many were issued after WWII isn't known, but it seems that no new
licenses were issued after WWII, although a few may have been carried
over from before.
--
William Black
== 13 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:07 am
From: Chris H
In message <bg2l0518e8vmkbamubk2me463pc3v8c5eb@4ax.com>, Mike
<rubbish@live.com> writes
>On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:21:09 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
>wrote:
>
>>>If Italy were to fall into a dictatorship under barleycorn it would be
>>>because he owns the press and manipulates the judiciary, not because
>>>ordinary citizens don't have pop guns in their lofts.
>>
>>I agree BUT usually the first sign of a democracy going bad is the
>>removal of any means of the people being able to stop the process.
>
>I'm beginning to wonder if its the concentration of power in a far
>away place where the MEPs don't hold the power and we cannot dismiss
>those with the real power and who are not directly elected. The first
>sign is not when they take our guns,
It is the second sign. They have already taken the guns.
> its when they only accept yes
>answers in referenda. :-(
:-)
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== 14 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:16 am
From: Jack Campin - bogus address
> One of the strange things about American English, was the local
> influence of English regional accents the different English colonial
> groups brought to the Eastern seaboard, from Boston, through Virginia
> to Georgia.
Very minor differences hyped up far beyond what they warrant. (I know
the book you ultimately got that from, though maybe you haven't read
it yourself).
> The oddest are a number of isolated Appalachian communities which had
> 16th & 17th century Scots & West country English ties, where the
> vocabulary, grammar, syntax and language in general remains frozen in
> development and recognized as a little changed 16th Century English.
That's an urban legend. There is no such place. (And there couldn't
be, since no English-speaking settlement in North America dates from
the 16th century).
There are a few usages found in some American localities that were
dropped elsewhere in America and in Britain a long time ago. That
does not constitute a complete language community talking like the
cast of King Lear.
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== 15 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:19 am
From: Jack Campin - bogus address
>> barleycorn
> LOL berlesconi, must actually *watch* the spellcheck
I thought you did it on purpose. I kinda like the idea of
what happened to John Barleycorn in the song being visited
on Berlusconi.
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== 16 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:24 am
From: Jack Campin - bogus address
>> The general perception is that private gun owners are either Nazis,
>> criminals, or paedophiles, and of the three, the criminals are the
>> least unwholesome - at least they need them for their job.
> So, it's ok to come home from a war and blow away your family, but
> keeping a handgun in order to protect your family, and property from
> criminals is a bad thing, relegating one to the status of Nazis, or
> pedophiles? You guys have a rather strange way of looking a things.
It's one of the cultural differences you have yet to discover, not
having been here.
Venting your political opinions in a bar is one thing, but start
talking about how you keep a gun at home to blow away any potential
enemies, and watch the people around you finish up their drinks in
a hurry and leave.
Gun owners are generally perceived in the UK as creepy.
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== 17 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:29 am
From: Chris Malcolm
In rec.photo.digital Mike <rubbish@live.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:22:40 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
> wrote:
>>>People outside of the US know all this.
>>
>>Its because they don't travel out side the US.....
>>(here we go again :-)
> you could probably learn all that plus what anarchism is in an all
> nighter in a Madrid bar, trouble is next day you cannot remember.
You could learn it anywhere in the world by reading a book, and in
most places in the developed world by googling. That some Americans
don't know it is as weird as some South Africans thinking garlic cures
AIDS.
--
Chris Malcolm
== 18 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:35 am
From: Chris Malcolm
In rec.photo.digital Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 21:36:49 -0400, tony cooper
>> <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I was thinking the same thing. Our neighborhood has mailboxes on
>>> posts in front of every house. We've got Gator heads, duck themes,
>>> hand painted decorations, golf themes, and I don't remember what else.
>>>
>>> The post office sets the requirements in size, distance from the
>>> street, and distance off the ground. If you have a standard,
>>> post-office-approved mailbox, you can decorate it or enclose it any
>>> way you want.
>>
>> and in UK we have letterboxes in the front door, a bigger difference
>> or not?
> Likely more secure. In the US, we have a lot of trouble in rural areas
> with people driving by and hitting them with baseball bats, or pipe.
> Then there are the guys who run a piece of 'drill-stem' (hardened pipe
> used for drilling wells), up through the inside of a large mail-box.
> Then when the box gets bashed, they tell the police to check the
> emergency rooms for guys with broken wrists! GREAT!
Why drill stem? Wouldn't a simple old bit of mild steel scaffolding
pipe do just as well?
--
Chris Malcolm
== 19 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:40 am
From: "Mike"
On 13 May 2009 09:29:23 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
wrote:
>> you could probably learn all that plus what anarchism is in an all
>> nighter in a Madrid bar, trouble is next day you cannot remember.
>
>You could learn it anywhere in the world by reading a book, and in
>most places in the developed world by googling. That some Americans
>don't know it is as weird as some South Africans thinking garlic cures
>AIDS.
the bar is more fun!
--
Mike
== 20 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:41 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:24:14 +0100, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Venting your political opinions in a bar is one thing, but start
>talking about how you keep a gun at home to blow away any potential
>enemies, and watch the people around you finish up their drinks in
>a hurry and leave.
>
>Gun owners are generally perceived in the UK as creepy.
LOL, true.
--
Mike
== 21 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:42 am
From: Chris H
In message <bogus-EBAE93.10241413052009@news.albasani.net>, Jack Campin
- bogus address <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> writes
>It's one of the cultural differences you have yet to discover, not
>having been here.
>
>Venting your political opinions in a bar is one thing, but start
>talking about how you keep a gun at home to blow away any potential
>enemies, and watch the people around you finish up their drinks in
>a hurry and leave.
True
>Gun owners are generally perceived in the UK as creepy.
No we are not.
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== 22 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:52 am
From: "Mike"
On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:32 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
wrote:
>>Venting your political opinions in a bar is one thing, but start
>>talking about how you keep a gun at home to blow away any potential
>>enemies, and watch the people around you finish up their drinks in
>>a hurry and leave.
>
>True
>
>>Gun owners are generally perceived in the UK as creepy.
>
>No we are not.
sorry Chris, not true. I'm sure there are lots of shooters like you
who are not, but the perception is as the one gun owner I have known,
who had cupboards full of Nazi regalia and uniforms.
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Mike
== 23 of 23 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 4:13 am
From: Chris H
In message <vv5l055vt0dair2t8unqiikncl8u9geiqi@4ax.com>, Mike
<rubbish@live.com> writes
>On Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:32 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
>wrote:
>
>>>Venting your political opinions in a bar is one thing, but start
>>>talking about how you keep a gun at home to blow away any potential
>>>enemies, and watch the people around you finish up their drinks in
>>>a hurry and leave.
>>
>>True
>>
>>>Gun owners are generally perceived in the UK as creepy.
>>
>>No we are not.
>
>sorry Chris, not true.
It is
> I'm sure there are lots of shooters like you
>who are not,
In fact 95% of the ones I know... quite a few who still have guns.
> but the perception is as the one gun owner I have known,
ONE owner? I have known 100's (Been in several clubs of 50 + in the
past ) AFAIK all the gun clubs I was a member of (full bore rifle and
pistol) have now gone as have the many shops and firms that supported
the business. The UK gun ban cost a lot of people their livelihoods and
saved not one life .
>who had cupboards full of Nazi regalia and uniforms.
THAT is worrying. That sort of person would be gently eased out of any
club I was a member of....
Actually Hamilton was eased out of several gun clubs and the police
given a "heads up" over several years before he went on his rampage.
In the past most gun clubs usually had one or more serving police
officers as members. No conspiracy just how it was. So any people who
joined the club that later gave any cause for concern usually had
concern passed on to the Police.
This is why Hamilton had been flaged to the police and the local
Firearms team recommended his FAC was not renewed. Hamilton could
have been stopped and lost his legal guns long before he went on the
rampage with the laws available at the time.
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TOPIC: Tripod recommendations
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:15 am
From: Chris Malcolm
whisky-dave <whisky-dave@final.front.ear> wrote:
> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:76j1o4F1c731fU1@mid.individual.net...
>> whisky-dave <whisky-dave@final.front.ear> wrote:
>>
>>> "Chris Malcolm" <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:76gobhF1daolqU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>> whisky-dave <whisky-dave@final.front.ear> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Anyone have any thoughts or links that might be useful to her.
>>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> It matters a lot whether the tripod will be used indoors or
>>>> outdoors.
>>
>>> First off it will be in a disused warehouse/factory, broken windows etc..
>>
>> If there's no wind you can wait while a flimsy tripod settles down
>> and stops quivering.
> True, but as she hasn't a tripod, why buy a flimsy one,
Because your suggested budget wasn't enough for a sturdy one :-)
> I have one like that
> she could borrow, her boyfriend offered to buy her one, but I don;t think
> he has any idea what she wants/needs.
Doesn't appear that she has either.
>>>> College project eh? Is she going to have to write up how she solved
>>>> the tripod problem? "I got a friend to ask questions on the internet
>>>> for me." That'll get good marks :-)
>>
>>> No, I can suss those sorts out.
>>> TBH I'm not quite sure what she's up to, she's very arty.
>>> her last attmept was in a disused basement at night.
>>> She set up the 5X4, put it on B, then went around the room firing off a
>>> flash gun (small) manually hoping to get something, but nothing,
>>> I think the flash was too small and film speed to low, or she didn't;
>>> set something up right.
>>> At her next location, an old radiator was in her way so she moved it,
>>> trouble was it was heavy cast iron and fell over trapping her hand,
>>> she had to go to hospital and get her hand bandaged so that ended that
>>> shoot.
>>> Part of her study I think is to compare digital with film for low light
>>> work
>>> and whether reciprocity failure can be overcome using multiple exposures
>>> on a digital camera[1] rather than one single long exposure on film.
>>
>> Reciprocity failure doesn't apply to digital images,
> Well that's partly the point but does it make digital better for long
> exposure photography is the question she needs to investigate.
The answer depends a little on sensor technology, CCD vs CMOS.
>> and in terms of
>> film is simply overcome by the use of the appropriate time and filter
>> functions which all suppliers of high quality film provide. Obviously
>> you don't know the specific terms of the project, but it sounds as
>> though there could easly be plenty of room for it to be partly
>> baked :-)
> True, but I think it's a training technique rather than finding the answer.
> it is a college project after all.
> But I.m curious to know the limits of digital sensors and how they'd
> compare in very low light.
> i.e if a picture required an expossure of 1/10th at f4 would 100 exposures
> of
> 1/1000th at f4 give the same results.
Would it be considered cheating to look up the detailed published
results of the people who've researched this question?
>>> Although I get the impression that the course organises just want
>>> something
>>> done
>>> that she can write about to contribute to her Msc[2].
>>
>> Demonstrate that she's capable of learning and problem solving on her
>> own in a novel technical field, and it doesn't really matter that the
>> problems have been solved by others, because it will take her quite a
>> of research to discover that, and quite a bit of intelligence if she
>> does discover it to verify it in practice.
> Probably, even though her course is primarily to do with illustrations
> rather
> than photography as she's done the photography course part.
> She works teaching basic Photoshop in some sort of rehab centre for the
> homeless
> and ex alchol and drug users.
I think I'm going to have to sit on my hands there and make no comment
:-)
--
Chris Malcolm
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TOPIC: Cheapest way to capture golf swing impact?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/e23aa73d6c7bf57e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 2:40 am
From: Chris Malcolm
John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> Prof Wonmug wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 19:12:48 -0700, John McWilliams
>> <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Prof Wonmug wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 11 May 2009 11:42:36 -0700 (PDT), Rich <rander3127@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How? How do I get the camera to take the photo sometime between actual
>>>> impact and about half an inch later?
>>>>
>>>> At 100 mph, it only takes 0.000568 seconds to travel one inch. That's
>>>> my window. Actually, I'd like to get it to half that.
>>>>
>>>>> At the bottom of the swing, it'll surprise you, the club will be bent
>>>>> by a considerable amount if the driver is strong. At 1/1000th of a
>>>>> second, the ball is a 3" long (approx) blur.
>>>> I don't care how long the blur is as long as I can tell exactly where
>>>> on the club face the ball make impact.
>>> Coat the club face with flour. Then you can tell the exact coordinates
>>> of the point of impact.
>>
>> Will flour actually work? Wet or dry?
>>
>> It turns out that they do sell tape or stickers for the club face that
>> will show where the ball made contact.
> Yes, and you could make your own stickers if you wished.
> I'd try the flour dry, but most likely it won't cover enough. So, wet
> the club face, then sift a small layer on.
Candle soot is easier and more indicative. Apply from halfway down the
flame as in smoking glass.
--
Chris Malcolm
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TOPIC: Raw converters
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/0b19041d3c6ee86c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 13 2009 4:24 am
From: Neil Ellwood
On Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:39 -0500, Stephen Drummonds wrote:
> I am wanting to try the Raw format on my camera. Can someone please
> tell me what raw conversion program that I need to start with? Thanks
> for any suggestions
> Steve
DCraw - UFraw - RawStudio among others.
--
Neil
reverse ra and delete l
Linux user 335851
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