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TOPIC: Keyloggers and Linux
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/3b8fe1382b164fc2?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 9 2009 9:44 pm
From: "W. eWatson"

Baron wrote:
> W. eWatson wrote:
>
>> W. eWatson wrote:
>>> A friend believes that someone put a h/w keylogger on her laptop. She
>>> doesn't have the experience to pull apart the laptop to find it, and
>>> I'm too far away to help. She's recently had trouble with restoring
>>> Win Vista to the laptop, and it may be because her install DVDs are
>>> bad. To get her back on her feet, I told her to install Fedora, which
>>> she is in the process of doing. My question is how likely is that the
>>> keylogger will be effective under Linux? I might think 0, since it
>>> seems likely a h/w keylogger would more likely built for Win than
>>> Linux. Comments?
>>>
>> That's quite a few responses, so I'm over here on a side thread. The
>> other thread has dissolved into fine arguments between individuals.
>>
>> I've seen small circuit board like devices for sale on the internet.
>> Here are a few devices:
>> <http://www.keyghost.com/>
>> <http://www.keelog.com/diy.html>
>>
> <http://wirelesskeylogger.com/index.php/controller/product/product_id/1>
>> he person who is suspected of doing it, is in her opinion very savvy
>> with hardware. He works for a fairly large computer company in Silicon
>> Valley. He and his computer buddy probably had access to her computer
>> for several hours. Don't ask. Yes, it make sense that a keylogger
>> hooked into a keyboard may work on any OS, but she has used a virtual
>> keyboard, and claims info have leaked off her laptop, and even the
>> culprit has deliberately shut down her computer remotely. She's going
>> ahead with Linux.
>>
>
> So it isn't hardware ! I'll bet that the machine has been rootkited !
> Real easy to do if she has left her machine unattended for an hour or
> so.
>
It is hardware. She met a fellow who has extensive experience with h/w and
s/w, and he opened the laptop, and found several places where unconventional
items appear. He told her that installing neither Linux or Vista would
help, but XP would. Tomorrow they will finish off the XP install. I guess
what I'd like to see is turning the table on the culprit by using whatever
these items are to trace back to him.

What is rootkitted?

--
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Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 5:26 am
From: John Hasler

W. eWatson writes:
> She met a fellow who has extensive experience with h/w and s/w, and he
> opened the laptop, and found several places where unconventional items
> appear. He told her that installing neither Linux or Vista would help,
> but XP would.

I don't believe that.

> What is rootkitted?

What she may be about to get. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit>
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:53 am
From: Baron

John Hasler wrote:

> W. eWatson writes:
>> She met a fellow who has extensive experience with h/w and s/w, and
>> he opened the laptop, and found several places where unconventional
>> items appear. He told her that installing neither Linux or Vista
>> would help, but XP would.
>
> I don't believe that.

No neither do I. Someone is getting conned here !

>> What is rootkitted?
>
> What she may be about to get. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit>

John: Thanks for putting that link in, you beat me to it ! :-)

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

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TOPIC: dynamically updating sudoers to allow users different commands at
different times? good idea or bad?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/0f1e970e52a07f2d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 1:31 am
From: Chris Davies

Rahul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> I have a tricky problem that I am trying to solve with "sudo" and wanted
> some comments on my approach.

> Can I somehow create a "dynamic" sudoers with the lines:

> foouser ALL=/usr/local/bin/qdel -p jobnumber1"
> foouser ALL=/usr/local/bin/qdel -p jobnumber2"
> baruser ALL=/usr/local/bin/qdel -p jobnumber3"
> baruser ALL=/usr/local/bin/qdel -p jobnumber4"

> What's the best approach? Or is this an obvous security hole in some way?

A much safer approach that doesn't require regular tweaking of
/etc/sudoers is to write a script that checks the parameters and then
calls your qdel. That script can be put into /etc/sudoers and called by
your user population instead of qdel.

If the script is really clever, it could look to see if it's running
as root and, if not, call itself with sudo. That way you can put the
script into the users' PATH and not even bother to have to tell them
about using sudo.

Chris

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TOPIC: Are these files corrupted for good?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/833e0bcfe2b77449?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 2:32 am
From: The Natural Philosopher

Amaranth wrote:
> On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>> Amaranth wrote:
>>> On 9 Mar, 11:33, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> On 2009-03-09, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi, to follow on my earlier post on a SuSE 11.1 file server, what
>>>>> happened to these files?
>>>>> http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corruptedfiles.gif
>>>>> Is it a hard disk problem or software one?
>>>>> If I rsync'ed backup files from one Linux box to another, would it
>>>>> successfully overwrite them? I'm getting permission denied ls'ing
>>>>> those files even as root.
>>>> The filesystem appears to be corrupted. Run fsck before copying the
>>>> backup files.
>>> fsck doesn't work. It reports the file system as read only.
>>> If I try to touch those corrupted files (with fsck, mv, rm, etc.), the
>>> file system seems to change to read only without an explicit command
>>> to do so. Trying to write to the entire *drive* after that doesn't
>>> work (e.g. touching a temp file)
>>> I have to unmount and remount to regain write privileges and just
>>> leave those files alone. I'm copying out what I can and will then
>>> format the drive, unless I get a better suggestion.
>> Drop into runlevel 1 or run fsck on bootup, before the file
>> system/partition is mounted. While it is mounted, you can also run
>> badblocks in a safe way, too. Do your messages or dmesg logs show
>> anything interesting (any errors)?
>> --
>> Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
>> Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
>> and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
>> Industry's most experienced staff! -- Web Hosting With Muscle!
>
> localhost:/var/log # grep REISER messages > temp
>

well there is your problem.

Reiser file systems have a notorious history of doing exactly what yours
has done.

Especially if e.g. you get a power failure during a write.

I don't know why - google it - but when investigating what system to use
on a new machine, I came up with enough negative comment to make me
never ever contemplate using it.

> localhost:/var/log # wc temp
> 1039 21287 151889 temp
>
> localhost:/var/log # tail -10 temp
>
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> find stat data of [1795642 3054312 0x0 SD]
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> find stat data of [1795642 3054313 0x0 SD]
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> find stat data of [1795642 3054314 0x0 SD]
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> find stat data of [1795642 3054315 0x0 SD]
>

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 2:54 am
From: Amaranth

On Mar 10, 12:13 am, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
> Amaranth wrote:
> > On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
> >> Amaranth wrote:
> >> > On 9 Mar, 11:33, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >> On 2009-03-09, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Hi, to follow on my earlier post on a SuSE 11.1 file server,
> >> >> > what happened to these files?
>
> >> >> >http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corruptedfiles.gif
>
> >> >> > Is it a hard disk problem or software one?
>
> >> >> > If I rsync'ed backup files from one Linux box to another, would
> >> >> > it successfully overwrite them? I'm getting permission denied
> >> >> > ls'ing those files even as root.
>
> >> >> The filesystem appears to be corrupted. Run fsck before copying
> >> >> the backup files.
>
> >> > fsck doesn't work. It reports the file system as read only.
>
> >> > If I try to touch those corrupted files (with fsck, mv, rm, etc.),
> >> > the file system seems to change to read only without an explicit
> >> > command to do so. Trying to write to the entire *drive* after that
> >> > doesn't work (e.g. touching a temp file)
>
> >> > I have to unmount and remount to regain write privileges and just
> >> > leave those files alone. I'm copying out what I can and will then
> >> > format the drive, unless I get a better suggestion.
>
> >> Drop into runlevel 1 or run fsck on bootup, before the file
> >> system/partition is mounted. While it is mounted, you can also run
> >> badblocks in a safe way, too. Do your messages or dmesg logs show
> >> anything interesting (any errors)?
> >> --
>
> <please don't quote signatures>
>
>
>
>
>
> > localhost:/var/log # grep REISER messages > temp
>
> > localhost:/var/log # wc temp
> > 1039 21287 151889 temp
>
> > localhost:/var/log # tail -10 temp
>
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > find stat data of [1795642 3054312 0x0 SD]
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > find stat data of [1795642 3054313 0x0 SD]
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > find stat data of [1795642 3054314 0x0 SD]
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > find stat data of [1795642 3054315 0x0 SD]
>
> I hope your repair can allow you access to the data, so you can copy it
> somewhere safe, unless you already have a current backup (if not, copy
> over the most valuable data first and then try and grab the rest,
> prioritizing), because the drive could be going. I'd run some drive
> tests as well as badblocks if things appear okay, but depending on how
> wide spread the corruption is, it's probably not just an
> application/process that went haywire.
>
> Be sure to check dmesg for current errors as well. Hope for the best,
> plan for the worst (I've had brand new drives fail as I was just
> formatting them after installing them minutes before, so you never know
> how much time you have before things start going badly, and they can go
> very badly very fast.)
> --
> Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
> Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
> and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
> Industry's most experienced staff! -- Web Hosting With Muscle!

dmesg looks fine - nothing untoward I have spotted, but I'll keep my
eye on it.

localhost:/media/SAM_1TB # dmesg | grep sdb
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
931GiB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
931GiB)
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
sdb: sdb1
sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
REISERFS (device sdb1): found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard
journal
REISERFS (device sdb1): using ordered data mode
REISERFS (device sdb1): journal params: device sdb1, size 8192,
journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit
age 30, max trans age 30
REISERFS (device sdb1): checking transaction log (sdb1)
REISERFS (device sdb1): Using r5 hash to sort names
localhost:/media/SAM_1TB #

How do I copy files from this hard drive only if they are unique, and
keep the destination files even if they are older?

Thanks for your help.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 3:00 am
From: Amaranth

On Mar 10, 9:54 am, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 12:13 am, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Amaranth wrote:
> > > On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
> > >> Amaranth wrote:
> > >> > On 9 Mar, 11:33, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >> >> On 2009-03-09, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > Hi, to follow on my earlier post on a SuSE 11.1 file server,
> > >> >> > what happened to these files?
>
> > >> >> >http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corruptedfiles.gif
>
> > >> >> > Is it a hard disk problem or software one?
>
> > >> >> > If I rsync'ed backup files from one Linux box to another, would
> > >> >> > it successfully overwrite them? I'm getting permission denied
> > >> >> > ls'ing those files even as root.
>
> > >> >> The filesystem appears to be corrupted. Run fsck before copying
> > >> >> the backup files.
>
> > >> > fsck doesn't work. It reports the file system as read only.
>
> > >> > If I try to touch those corrupted files (with fsck, mv, rm, etc.),
> > >> > the file system seems to change to read only without an explicit
> > >> > command to do so. Trying to write to the entire *drive* after that
> > >> > doesn't work (e.g. touching a temp file)
>
> > >> > I have to unmount and remount to regain write privileges and just
> > >> > leave those files alone. I'm copying out what I can and will then
> > >> > format the drive, unless I get a better suggestion.
>
> > >> Drop into runlevel 1 or run fsck on bootup, before the file
> > >> system/partition is mounted. While it is mounted, you can also run
> > >> badblocks in a safe way, too. Do your messages or dmesg logs show
> > >> anything interesting (any errors)?
> > >> --
>
> > <please don't quote signatures>
>
> > > localhost:/var/log # grep REISER messages > temp
>
> > > localhost:/var/log # wc temp
> > > 1039 21287 151889 temp
>
> > > localhost:/var/log # tail -10 temp
>
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > > find stat data of [1795642 3054312 0x0 SD]
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > > find stat data of [1795642 3054313 0x0 SD]
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > > find stat data of [1795642 3054314 0x0 SD]
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one 1
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976. Fsck?
> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
> > > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to
> > > find stat data of [1795642 3054315 0x0 SD]
>
> > I hope your repair can allow you access to the data, so you can copy it
> > somewhere safe, unless you already have a current backup (if not, copy
> > over the most valuable data first and then try and grab the rest,
> > prioritizing), because the drive could be going. I'd run some drive
> > tests as well as badblocks if things appear okay, but depending on how
> > wide spread the corruption is, it's probably not just an
> > application/process that went haywire.
>
> > Be sure to check dmesg for current errors as well. Hope for the best,
> > plan for the worst (I've had brand new drives fail as I was just
> > formatting them after installing them minutes before, so you never know
> > how much time you have before things start going badly, and they can go
> > very badly very fast.)

> dmesg looks fine - nothing untoward I have spotted, but I'll keep my
> eye on it.
>
> localhost:/media/SAM_1TB # dmesg | grep sdb
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
> 931GiB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
> support DPO or FUA
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
> 931GiB)
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
> support DPO or FUA
> sdb: sdb1
> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
> REISERFS (device sdb1): found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard
> journal
> REISERFS (device sdb1): using ordered data mode
> REISERFS (device sdb1): journal params: device sdb1, size 8192,
> journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit
> age 30, max trans age 30
> REISERFS (device sdb1): checking transaction log (sdb1)
> REISERFS (device sdb1): Using r5 hash to sort names
> localhost:/media/SAM_1TB #
>
> How do I copy files from this hard drive only if they are unique, and
> keep the destination files even if they are older?
>
> Thanks for your help.

Oops, sorry for quoting your sig.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 3:11 am
From: Amaranth

On Mar 10, 9:32 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:

> well there is your problem.
>
> Reiser file systems have a notorious history of doing exactly what yours
> has done.
>
> Especially if e.g. you get a power failure during a write.
>
> I don't know why - google it - but when investigating what system to use
> on a new machine, I came up with enough negative comment to make me
> never ever contemplate using it.

Yes, I've just found a few anecdotes and personal opinions that state
ext3 is more robust but Reiser is faster and takes less space for many
small files. I haven't found any rigorous studies that state this is
so (yet) though.

How do I painlessly change file systems from Reiser to ext3? :-(

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 5:45 am
From: The Natural Philosopher

Amaranth wrote:
> On Mar 10, 9:32 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
>
>> well there is your problem.
>>
>> Reiser file systems have a notorious history of doing exactly what yours
>> has done.
>>
>> Especially if e.g. you get a power failure during a write.
>>
>> I don't know why - google it - but when investigating what system to use
>> on a new machine, I came up with enough negative comment to make me
>> never ever contemplate using it.
>
> Yes, I've just found a few anecdotes and personal opinions that state
> ext3 is more robust but Reiser is faster and takes less space for many
> small files. I haven't found any rigorous studies that state this is
> so (yet) though.
>
> How do I painlessly change file systems from Reiser to ext3? :-(

strip the data off, to somewhere else, and reformat the drive.

If you really have a lot of tiny pieces of data, consider building a
database app to hold them..

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:40 am
From: Tim Greer

Amaranth wrote:

> How do I copy files from this hard drive only if they are unique, and
> keep the destination files even if they are older?
>

Check out rsync, it does all the stuff you need.
--
Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc.
Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers
and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers.
Industry's most experienced staff! -- Web Hosting With Muscle!

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:40 am
From: Tim Greer

Amaranth wrote:

> On Mar 10, 9:54 am, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 10, 12:13 am, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Amaranth wrote:
>> > > On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Tim Greer <t...@burlyhost.com> wrote:
>> > >> Amaranth wrote:
>> > >> > On 9 Mar, 11:33, Bill Marcum <marcumb...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> > >> >> On 2009-03-09, Amaranth <rhudso...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > >> >> > Hi, to follow on my earlier post on a SuSE 11.1 file
>> > >> >> > server, what happened to these files?
>>
>> > >> >> >http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corruptedfiles.gif
>>
>> > >> >> > Is it a hard disk problem or software one?
>>
>> > >> >> > If I rsync'ed backup files from one Linux box to another,
>> > >> >> > would it successfully overwrite them? I'm getting
>> > >> >> > permission denied ls'ing those files even as root.
>>
>> > >> >> The filesystem appears to be corrupted. Run fsck before
>> > >> >> copying the backup files.
>>
>> > >> > fsck doesn't work. It reports the file system as read only.
>>
>> > >> > If I try to touch those corrupted files (with fsck, mv, rm,
>> > >> > etc.), the file system seems to change to read only without an
>> > >> > explicit command to do so. Trying to write to the entire
>> > >> > *drive* after that doesn't work (e.g. touching a temp file)
>>
>> > >> > I have to unmount and remount to regain write privileges and
>> > >> > just leave those files alone. I'm copying out what I can and
>> > >> > will then format the drive, unless I get a better suggestion.
>>
>> > >> Drop into runlevel 1 or run fsck on bootup, before the file
>> > >> system/partition is mounted. While it is mounted, you can also
>> > >> run badblocks in a safe way, too. Do your messages or dmesg
>> > >> logs show anything interesting (any errors)?
>> > >> --
>>
>> > <please don't quote signatures>
>>
>> > > localhost:/var/log # grep REISER messages > temp
>>
>> > > localhost:/var/log # wc temp
>> > > 1039 21287 151889 temp
>>
>> > > localhost:/var/log # tail -10 temp
>>
>> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
>> > > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying
>> > > to find stat data of [1795642 3054312 0x0 SD]
>> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
>> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one
>> > > 1 Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
>> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976.
>> > > Fsck? Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device
>> > > sdb1): vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred
>> > > trying to find stat data of [1795642 3054313 0x0 SD]
>> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
>> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one
>> > > 1 Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
>> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976.
>> > > Fsck? Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device
>> > > sdb1): vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred
>> > > trying to find stat data of [1795642 3054314 0x0 SD]
>> > > Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS warning: reiserfs-5090
>> > > is_tree_node: node level 39463 does not match to the expected one
>> > > 1 Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device sdb1):
>> > > vs-5150 search_by_key: invalid format found in block 145753976.
>> > > Fsck? Mar 9 21:29:01 localhost kernel: REISERFS error (device
>> > > sdb1): vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred
>> > > trying to find stat data of [1795642 3054315 0x0 SD]
>>
>> > I hope your repair can allow you access to the data, so you can
>> > copy it somewhere safe, unless you already have a current backup
>> > (if not, copy over the most valuable data first and then try and
>> > grab the rest, prioritizing), because the drive could be going.
>> > I'd run some drive tests as well as badblocks if things appear
>> > okay, but depending on how wide spread the corruption is, it's
>> > probably not just an application/process that went haywire.
>>
>> > Be sure to check dmesg for current errors as well. Hope for the
>> > best, plan for the worst (I've had brand new drives fail as I was
>> > just formatting them after installing them minutes before, so you
>> > never know how much time you have before things start going badly,
>> > and they can go very badly very fast.)
>
>> dmesg looks fine - nothing untoward I have spotted, but I'll keep my
>> eye on it.
>>
>> localhost:/media/SAM_1TB # dmesg | grep sdb
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
>> 931GiB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
>> support DPO or FUA
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 1953525168 512-byte hardware sectors: (1000GB/
>> 931GiB)
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
>> support DPO or FUA
>> sdb: sdb1
>> sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
>> REISERFS (device sdb1): found reiserfs format "3.6" with standard
>> journal
>> REISERFS (device sdb1): using ordered data mode
>> REISERFS (device sdb1): journal params: device sdb1, size 8192,
>> journal first block 18, max trans len 1024, max batch 900, max commit
>> age 30, max trans age 30
>> REISERFS (device sdb1): checking transaction log (sdb1)
>> REISERFS (device sdb1): Using r5 hash to sort names
>> localhost:/media/SAM_1TB #
>>
>> How do I copy files from this hard drive only if they are unique, and
>> keep the destination files even if they are older?
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>
> Oops, sorry for quoting your sig.

Oh, no problem at all. Thanks.
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TOPIC: My top three bugs in Ubuntu
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/25954fae59b52c65?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 3:01 am
From: Mark

On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:39:37 -0500, Ignoramus877
<ignoramus877@NOSPAM.877.invalid> wrote:

>All three are highly annoying to me as a consumer. They have been long
>known and not much is being done to address it.
>
>1. PulseAudio is broken and presents various troubles that are not
>easy to fix.
>
>I mean, come on, a computer should be able to make sounds reliably,
>that's not really a very unusual functionality.
>
>2 and 3. (may be related). Fast user switching is highly unreliable,
>leads to system crashes, lock ups, log on loops etc. Consolekit is a
>buggy POS that crashes often and possibly messes up fast user
>switching.
>
>Most of my PCs at home are multiuser machines that are used by many
>users who keep logged on sessions.
>
>All of these bugs are near showstoppers as far as I am concerned.
>
>I would like to know if they are fixed in Jaunty.
>
>I am also going to give up on my last 64 bit install as the bugs
>really make it a very unworthy experience. I am going back to 32 bit
>100%.

There's only one bug in Ubuntu (Hardy) that really bothers me and it's
a real pain. If I have my USB wireless network adaptor connected &
online and I connect any other USB device it causes the whole OS to
partially lock up. I have posted on the forums but never had a
solution.

If the wirless adaptor is disconnected or connected with the wireless
network disabled then the problem does not occur.
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== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 3:18 am
From: Andrew Halliwell

Ignoramus877 <ignoramus877@nospam.877.invalid> wrote:
> I think that I will wait a couple of months for Jaunty, and will
> seriously consider CentOS if Jaunty continues to be plagued by bugs.

I think you're going about it the wrong way.
A new version of a distro to get away from bugs?
Why not just stick with Hardy? The whole point of hardy is that it's LTS.
Effectively, new patches will come out to fix bugs, but it won't be bleeding
edge. Going for the newest latest greatest version will just introduce new
and different bugs.

Hardy is LTS (long term support), meaning even when whatever L stands for
comes out, it'll still be getting fixes. Making it increasingly rock solid.
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== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 3:28 am
From: philo

Ignoramus877 wrote:
> On 2009-03-10, Roland Latour <rolandl-at-cavenet-dot-com@nowhere.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:39:37 -0500, Ignoramus877 wrote:
>>
>>> All three are highly annoying to me as a consumer. They have been long
>>> known and not much is being done to address it.
>> These are all related to 8.10. I prefer stability, that's why I stayed
>> with 8.04 LTS. I plan to upgrade when the next LTS release comes out
>> (9.10? 10.4?). I am in no hurry.
>>
>> Perhaps you should do the same. Avoid the bleeding edge.
>
> I would like to respectfully disagree, that was stuff was broken in
> Hardy also.
>
> Hardy server edition is awesome and very stable. I am very satisfied
> and we use it at work for some important stuff, dozens of servers.
>

I've tried Ubuntu but not recently...
I was completely puzzled as to why it is so popular...
There were a number of problems with it.

Recently I upgraded my H/W... so I downloaded a number of distros and
did a two week evaluation

SuSe 11
Slackware 12.2
Mandriva 2009
Debian (Lenny)
Fedora 10

Though I went with Fedora as it has worked flawlessly in all respects...
Debian was also *excellent*

Mandriva was good but had a bug in the updater.
SuSe I'd just rate as "OK"
and much to my surprise, the newest version of Slackware
did not merit the superior ratings I've given it in the past.

As one who has been at least a part-time Linux user for 9 years...
I must say I am quite impressed by Fedora!

(Oh, btw: I also did a test installation of Vista... what a horribly
sick joke that is.)

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 5:25 am
From: Robert Heller

At Mon, 09 Mar 2009 19:10:17 -0500 Ignoramus877 <ignoramus877@NOSPAM.877.invalid> wrote:

>
> On 2009-03-09, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> > At Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:50:46 -0500 Ignoramus877 <ignoramus877@NOSPAM.877.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On 2009-03-09, Frans van Duinen <fduinen@eol.ca> wrote:
> >> > Ignoramus877 wrote:
> >> >> All three are highly annoying to me as a consumer. They have been long
> >> >> known and not much is being done to address it.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. PulseAudio is broken and presents various troubles that are not
> >> >> easy to fix.
> >> >>
> >> >> I mean, come on, a computer should be able to make sounds reliably,
> >> >> that's not really a very unusual functionality.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2 and 3. (may be related). Fast user switching is highly unreliable,
> >> >> leads to system crashes, lock ups, log on loops etc. Consolekit is a
> >> >> buggy POS that crashes often and possibly messes up fast user
> >> >> switching.
> >> >>
> >> >> Most of my PCs at home are multiuser machines that are used by many
> >> >> users who keep logged on sessions.
> >> >>
> >> >> All of these bugs are near showstoppers as far as I am concerned.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to know if they are fixed in Jaunty.
> >> >>
> >> >> I am also going to give up on my last 64 bit install as the bugs
> >> >> really make it a very unworthy experience. I am going back to 32 bit
> >> >> 100%.
> >> >>
> >> > Linux is not for everyone. It sounds to me that Windows is more your
> >> > speed.
> >> > The "Free" in Free software means that you have to do some work to get
> >> > it configured for your systems. Maybe you're not ready for 64 bits or
> >> > 64 bits is not ready for you.
> >> > Be sure to ask for your money back.
> >>
> >> I have used Linux since 1995. I simply have high standards.
> >>
> >
> > Then maybe you need to consider a different distro. CentOS for example.
> > Yes, it is 'conservitive' and ships with 'older' package versions. This
> > means it is stable and rock solid and does not suffer from the problems
> > that commonly plague 'bleeding edge' distros. RedHat does provide back
> > port patches to kernels for security updates and driver updates, so even
> > though the base kernel version might be 'old', it is up-to-date WRT
> > security issues and drivers.
> >
>
> I think that I will wait a couple of months for Jaunty, and will
> seriously consider CentOS if Jaunty continues to be plagued by bugs.
>
> How well does Centos support sound and multiuser capabilities (I mean
> multiple users logged into X).

All I know about CentOS and sound is that the stock kernels (for 4) don't
support ISA sound cards out-of-the-box. It sounds like this is not a
problem for you, since you are not dealing with really old systems (like
a Toshiba P133 laptop). If you mean xdm and remote X11 access, I know
that WhiteBox 3.0 handled this just fine (WBL 3.0 == CentOS 3.0 == RHEL
3.0).

>
> i
>

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== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 5:58 am
From: Ignoramus26567

On 2009-03-10, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:14:07 -0500, Ignoramus877 wrote:
>
>>>> I have used Linux since 1995. I simply have high standards.
>
>>> And low intelligence, by the sound of it.
>>> All that stuff works fine for me.
>
>> You live alone, right? (by the sound of it)
>
> No.
>
>> If so, then you simply could not have experienced those multiuser
>> problems. They happen when several users are logged on.
>
> You mean I can't log into my 8 different computers with 24 different
> names? You mean the computers will know that they are all really me?
>
> Jesus, you're a dumb fuck.
>

What I experience, is that there are sound problems when switching
users, or switching users outright does not work. By "user switching"
I mean switching between active display sessions.

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== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 7:00 am
From: Robert Heller

At Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:58:52 -0500 Ignoramus26567 <ignoramus26567@NOSPAM.26567.invalid> wrote:

>
> On 2009-03-10, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:14:07 -0500, Ignoramus877 wrote:
> >
> >>>> I have used Linux since 1995. I simply have high standards.
> >
> >>> And low intelligence, by the sound of it.
> >>> All that stuff works fine for me.
> >
> >> You live alone, right? (by the sound of it)
> >
> > No.
> >
> >> If so, then you simply could not have experienced those multiuser
> >> problems. They happen when several users are logged on.
> >
> > You mean I can't log into my 8 different computers with 24 different
> > names? You mean the computers will know that they are all really me?
> >
> > Jesus, you're a dumb fuck.
> >
>
> What I experience, is that there are sound problems when switching
> users, or switching users outright does not work. By "user switching"
> I mean switching between active display sessions.

Do you mean switching between virtual terminals (eg Ctrl-Alt-F7/8/9/...)
or do you mean something else?

If the former, it seems to be OK (in a strange sort of way). I have an
IBM Thinkpad X31 running CentOS 4.7. I right now just logged in a
*second* X session and have mplayer (I use it as a video/audio player)
running on both and both are playing music (different songs at the same
time). Switching back and forth causes no undue problems. Just mildly
anoying since Greg Khin playing Jepardy and The Stones playing 19th
Nervious Breakdown *at the same time* is weird.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 9:57 am
From: Florian Diesch

Frans van Duinen <fduinen@eol.ca> wrote:

> The "Free" in Free software means that you have to do some work to get
> it configured for your systems.

Bullshit.

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== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:35 am
From: Dragomir Kollaric

On 2009-03-10, Ignoramus877 hit the keyboard and wrote:
> On 2009-03-10, Roland Latour <rolandl-at-cavenet-dot-com@nowhere.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:39:37 -0500, Ignoramus877 wrote:
>
> I would like to respectfully disagree, that was stuff was broken in
> Hardy also.
>
> Hardy server edition is awesome and very stable. I am very satisfied
> and we use it at work for some important stuff, dozens of servers.

I'm running the "Studio" Version of the 64bit 8.04.2 and I
don't have any problems relating to sound at all. The
sound-card is a onboard beast, but still working.

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Untergeordnete Geräte: 0/1
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>

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== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:49 am
From: Rahul

philo <philo@privacy.net> wrote in news:YfmdnS_
20utQ3SvUnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@ntd.net:

> As one who has been at least a part-time Linux user for 9 years...
> I must say I am quite impressed by Fedora!
>
>

Fedora, RHEL and Centos have been pretty good for me. RHEL and Centos
sometimes suck because they never seem to have the latest versions of
auxillary packages if you want the cutting edge features.

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TOPIC: Make my DNS server public
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/b0e3775bd587c8b3?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 9:52 am
From: tash

I just installed BIND and configured it to resolve
example.mydomain.com

Let's say I named my nameserver ns1.mydomain.com ... How in the world
does the general public (the Internet) get to example.mydomain.com if
they can't resolve ns1.mydomain.com?

So, maybe the more pertinent question is, how do you make
ns1.mydomain.com resolve?

My goal is to not use a 3rd party for any type of DNS service ... is
this possible?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 9:57 am
From: Douglas Mayne

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:52:16 -0700, tash wrote:

> I just installed BIND and configured it to resolve
> example.mydomain.com
>
> Let's say I named my nameserver ns1.mydomain.com ... How in the world
> does the general public (the Internet) get to example.mydomain.com if
> they can't resolve ns1.mydomain.com?
>
> So, maybe the more pertinent question is, how do you make
> ns1.mydomain.com resolve?
>
> My goal is to not use a 3rd party for any type of DNS service ... is
> this possible?
>
Name Registration (requires fee):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System#Domain_registration

List of accredited registars:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_top_ranking_domain_registrars

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 10:21 am
From: Robert Heller

At Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:52:16 -0700 (PDT) tash <tdnnash25@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I just installed BIND and configured it to resolve
> example.mydomain.com
>
> Let's say I named my nameserver ns1.mydomain.com ... How in the world
> does the general public (the Internet) get to example.mydomain.com if
> they can't resolve ns1.mydomain.com?
>
> So, maybe the more pertinent question is, how do you make
> ns1.mydomain.com resolve?
>
> My goal is to not use a 3rd party for any type of DNS service ... is
> this possible?

Yes. You need to register your DNS server as a public DNS server. This
means that its IP number gets hard wired someplace on a root DNS server
or the whois database (or something like that). Talk/E-Mail to your
domain registar. I'm assuming that 'mydomain.com' (or whatever your
real domain name is) is registered and that 'ns1.mydomain.com' (or
whatever your real DNS server's name is) is a machine that is live on
the Internet with a static IP address. In *theory* if you do this, you
ought to have at least two *separate* machines available as DNS servers
-- eg a master DNS server and a mirror DNS server slaved to it. This
means that if one machine goes down, the other can keep things going.

Be sure to think this through before you do this. I did this once, but
it was more hassle that I wanted, esp. when I moved my co-location and
the IP number changed. What I do is use everydns.net as my 'public' DNS
servers and slave everydns.net to my ('private') DNS server. This way
I don't have to hassle with updating things on everydns.net and instead
I can update things on my own server and 'push' updates automagically
to everydns.net: sending a SIGHUP to my server sends update notifies to
everydns.net for whatever changed.

>
>

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 10 2009 11:42 am
From: Tim Greer

tash wrote:

The name server has to be registered and resolve so queries against it
will resolve the domain to your IP (the name server must resolve to an
IP as well, of course).
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