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* Which smart phone has the best camera? - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Beware of Rocky Cameras, UK + Paypal - 1 messages, 1 author
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* new canon battery for 5D mark II - 4 messages, 3 authors
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* Trying to locate a copyright infringement case - 5 messages, 2 authors
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* geld lenen met een bkr notering,kapitaal hypothecaire lening,crediet service
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en doorlopend,rente bij spaarrekening,lenen ondanks bkr notering,rente
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lenen zonder vaste baan,geld lenen zonder bkr toetsing,tarieven persoonlijke
leningen,geld lenen ondanks bkr,beste autofinanciering,woonkrediet in,
financiering op afbetaling,juridisch aansprakelijk, - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Help with specific picture - 1 messages, 1 author
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* How to take photos of killer bees? - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Photos of cultivations - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Flash Exposure Compensation in Canon A590IS - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Critiques - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Did the Canon boat sink? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Vivitar is back - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Tiny old pancake lens in modern DSLR camera - What a contrast! - 1 messages,
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TOPIC: Which smart phone has the best camera?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/3e794fdc9ddb4e13?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 24 2009 11:48 pm
From: John McWilliams
Paul Furman wrote:
> Or which camera phone has the best web/email interface?
iPhone, uPhone, weallPhone!
- =
--
John McWilliams
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 12:18 am
From: Paul Furman
John McWilliams wrote:
> Paul Furman wrote:
>> Or which camera phone has the best web/email interface?
>
> iPhone, uPhone, weallPhone!
>
> - =
I was going to get a nice compact camera but I could really use a web
capable phone too... more than a spare camera. I only have so many pockets.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 2:14 am
From: Richard Anacker
Am 25.02.2009 09:18, schrieb Paul Furman:
> I was going to get a nice compact camera but I could really use a web
> capable phone too... more than a spare camera. I only have so many pockets.
Sony-Ericsson K-type-mobiles haver nice build-ins-cameras. The k810
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/k810i?lc=de&cc=de
is a quite nice one.
richie
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 4:14 am
From: TheRealSteve
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:22:23 -0800, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net>
wrote:
>Or which camera phone has the best web/email interface?
There's quite a few smart phones that have high megapixel counts. But
the one that consistently gets the best ratings for photo quality by
far is the Motorola Zine ZN5.
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/ZN5/
The new Samsung Memoir looks pretty cool but I saw a review where the
photo quality wasn't so great and I personally don't like the full
touch screen phones like the Memoir and iPhone that don't have real
keys.
Steve
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TOPIC: Beware of Rocky Cameras, UK + Paypal
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/422cde92582b6a98?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 12:30 am
From: Twibil
On Feb 24, 7:06 pm, Michael <adunc79...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> No more checks, no more money orders on ebay. ONLY Paypal. That is all
> they allow now.
You've been suckered by eBay's scare tactics.
According to my lawyer, eBay cannot legally require sellers to accept
only Paypal. What they *can* legally do -and are trying to do now- is
keep sellers from *advertising* that they take non-PayPal forms of
payment. eBay can do this simply because they own the eBay website and
can legally control what's advertised there.
In actual fact, many sellers are ignoring eBay's commandments, and are
continuing to advertise that they take paper payments; this in the
face of eBay's threats to pull all their ads if they continue. (And
many buyers have figured this bit out already and are now posting each
seller to ask them individually if they still take paper payments. Of
the 100 or so I've asked so far, exactly *none* have turned me down.
Paper payments are alive and well, to eBay's great discomfort.)
If eBay *does* start pulling auctions they're likely to lose some of
their biggest customers, and *that* will encourage others to start up
online auction sites in competition with eBay -who does *not* own the
idea- and these new sites would hopefully not make the same self-
defeating moves that eBay has made in the last year or two.
Some people just can't stand success, and the current eBay management
is a prime exampole of this mind-set.
~Pete
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TOPIC: new canon battery for 5D mark II
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/703cc2b417ac75a4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 12:33 am
From: "DD-Diver"
"Pete D" <no@email.com> schreef in bericht
news:49a447c0$0$19161$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>>SNIP<<<
> Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts to be
> the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not happen.
Re: lens mounts: remember M-42 and K-bajonet? Things became a mess when
electronics came around, and everybody re-invented the wheel! Well... their
own version of it...
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 1:10 am
From: "Pete D"
"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.neither-this-bit.nor-this.co.uk>
wrote in message news:u56pl.39583$Sp5.38616@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> Pete D wrote:
> []
>> Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts
>> to be the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not
>> happen.
>
> .. but the four-thirds system is a step in that direction, isn't it?
>
> Oh, but what about micro-four-thirds?
>
> David
Yeah, what about it, a mad mans dream I think.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 1:12 am
From: "Pete D"
"DD-Diver" <p1n0chch10@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:49a50262$0$197$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
>
> "Pete D" <no@email.com> schreef in bericht
> news:49a447c0$0$19161$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>
>>>>SNIP<<<
>
>> Lets call a spade a spade, next you will be wanting all lens mounts to be
>> the same and all flash mounts to be compatible, it will not happen.
>
> Re: lens mounts: remember M-42 and K-bajonet? Things became a mess when
> electronics came around, and everybody re-invented the wheel! Well...
> their own version of it...
>
>
A $2,500 camera and some people want to quible about spending $50 for a top
quality battery, pretty stupid in my view.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 4:52 am
From: "bowzer"
"john" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:002faeac$0$19216$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>I have an EOS 20D and have always wanted a full frame DSLR.
> I'm somewhat disappointed in the 5D mark II's new battery, LP-E6.
>
> According to canon
> (http://www.usa.canon.com/dlc/controller?act=GetArticleAct&articleID=2046):
>
> "Each LP-E6 battery pack has a microchip with a unique, 8-character serial
> number. You don't see this number on the outside of the battery, but it's
> embedded in the battery's information source. When the battery pack is
> installed in the camera, you can register it using a menu command. This
> adds it to an in-camera list of LP-E6 battery packs, with serial number
> memorized and displayed."
>
> This seems to imply it would be harder if not impossible for 3rd party
> battery makers to make a compatible battery. The supposed added benefits
> of this new battery doesn't sound all that exciting to me. I already have
> a "collection" of BP511 (compatible with EOS 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D, 50D,
> ...). I'm all for innovation, but why can't the camera be designed to
> accept both types of battery?
>
> Let's call a spade a spade. This battery's main purpose is to lock out 3rd
> party batteries.
>
> How come FTC doesn't step in and force the company to make their system
> more open like they did to a certain computer operating system? Or stop
> them from unfairly bundling their own brand of battery with the camera
> body?
Because the FTC would only intervene if there were some law broken, or a
restraint of trade. By selling proprietary batteries, Canon has broken no
law, nor have they caused any restraint of trade. If you want, buy the
SX-series cameras that use AAs. Sony has been using "smart" batteries for
years, so why not Canon and others?
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TOPIC: Trying to locate a copyright infringement case
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/1713047d29021458?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 1:01 am
From: Mark Thomas
JC Dill wrote:
> A few years ago I read about a copyright infringement case but I lost
> the details and now I can't find a cite to this case. The details:
>
> A photographer had a stock photo of a woman on the beach at sunset, with
> the sun peeking thru between her legs, forming a "starburst. A band
> wanted to use this photo on their album cover, and entered into
> negotiations with the photographer. The band felt the photographer
> wanted too much money, and stopped negotiating. They then hired another
> photographer to go out and shoot a substantially similar shot for their
> album cover. The first photographer sued, claiming that the second
> photographer "copied" his photo and violated his copyright. He won the
> case and was awarded a fairly hefty amount ($100k or so) for the
> copyright violation.
>
> This was in the 1970s or 1980s.
>
> Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>
> Thanks!
>
> jc
Yup, I watched that case with some interest, as I had just bought the
album.. It was Fatboy Slim's "Halfway Between the Gutter and the
Stars", and the original shot was allegedly taken by Ernst Haas ('Sunset
Silhouette') - but I've never seen that image...
http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4450502-1.html
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 1:12 am
From: Mark Thomas
Mark Thomas wrote:
> JC Dill wrote:
>> A few years ago I read about a copyright infringement case but I lost
>> the details and now I can't find a cite to this case. The details:
>>
>> A photographer had a stock photo of a woman on the beach at sunset,
>> with the sun peeking thru between her legs, forming a "starburst. A
>> band wanted to use this photo on their album cover, and entered into
>> negotiations with the photographer. The band felt the photographer
>> wanted too much money, and stopped negotiating. They then hired
>> another photographer to go out and shoot a substantially similar shot
>> for their album cover. The first photographer sued, claiming that the
>> second photographer "copied" his photo and violated his copyright. He
>> won the case and was awarded a fairly hefty amount ($100k or so) for
>> the copyright violation.
>>
>> This was in the 1970s or 1980s.
>>
>> Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> jc
>
> Yup, I watched that case with some interest, as I had just bought the
> album.. It was Fatboy Slim's "Halfway Between the Gutter and the
> Stars", and the original shot was allegedly taken by Ernst Haas ('Sunset
> Silhouette') - but I've never seen that image...
>
> http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4450502-1.html
>
PS - That album contains the decidedly weird "Weapon of Choice" track,
which was the one with the even weirder, remarkable dancing from
Christopher Walken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLidy7pIQ8
So uncool, it is COOOOL!
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 2:34 am
From: "Atheist Chaplain"
"Mark Thomas" <mark.thomas.7@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:go3217$bdm$1@news.motzarella.org...
> Mark Thomas wrote:
>> JC Dill wrote:
>>> A few years ago I read about a copyright infringement case but I lost
>>> the details and now I can't find a cite to this case. The details:
>>>
>>> A photographer had a stock photo of a woman on the beach at sunset, with
>>> the sun peeking thru between her legs, forming a "starburst. A band
>>> wanted to use this photo on their album cover, and entered into
>>> negotiations with the photographer. The band felt the photographer
>>> wanted too much money, and stopped negotiating. They then hired another
>>> photographer to go out and shoot a substantially similar shot for their
>>> album cover. The first photographer sued, claiming that the second
>>> photographer "copied" his photo and violated his copyright. He won the
>>> case and was awarded a fairly hefty amount ($100k or so) for the
>>> copyright violation.
>>>
>>> This was in the 1970s or 1980s.
>>>
>>> Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> jc
>>
>> Yup, I watched that case with some interest, as I had just bought the
>> album.. It was Fatboy Slim's "Halfway Between the Gutter and the Stars",
>> and the original shot was allegedly taken by Ernst Haas ('Sunset
>> Silhouette') - but I've never seen that image...
>>
>> http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4450502-1.html
>
> PS - That album contains the decidedly weird "Weapon of Choice" track,
> which was the one with the even weirder, remarkable dancing from
> Christopher Walken.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLidy7pIQ8
>
> So uncool, it is COOOOL!
ahh yes, but you have to remember that Christopher Walken was a hoofer
before he was an actor.
apparently he did a few Broadway shows in the chorus line as a dancer before
he made his way to the silver screen.
--
[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of
Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 2:57 am
From: Mark Thomas
Atheist Chaplain wrote:
> "Mark Thomas" <mark.thomas.7@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:go3217$bdm$1@news.motzarella.org...
>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> JC Dill wrote:
>>>> A few years ago I read about a copyright infringement case but I
>>>> lost the details and now I can't find a cite to this case. The
>>>> details:
>>>>
>>>> A photographer had a stock photo of a woman on the beach at sunset,
>>>> with the sun peeking thru between her legs, forming a "starburst. A
>>>> band wanted to use this photo on their album cover, and entered into
>>>> negotiations with the photographer. The band felt the photographer
>>>> wanted too much money, and stopped negotiating. They then hired
>>>> another photographer to go out and shoot a substantially similar
>>>> shot for their album cover. The first photographer sued, claiming
>>>> that the second photographer "copied" his photo and violated his
>>>> copyright. He won the case and was awarded a fairly hefty amount
>>>> ($100k or so) for the copyright violation.
>>>>
>>>> This was in the 1970s or 1980s.
>>>>
>>>> Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> jc
>>>
>>> Yup, I watched that case with some interest, as I had just bought the
>>> album.. It was Fatboy Slim's "Halfway Between the Gutter and the
>>> Stars", and the original shot was allegedly taken by Ernst Haas
>>> ('Sunset Silhouette') - but I've never seen that image...
>>>
>>> http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4450502-1.html
>>>
>>
>> PS - That album contains the decidedly weird "Weapon of Choice" track,
>> which was the one with the even weirder, remarkable dancing from
>> Christopher Walken.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLidy7pIQ8
>>
>> So uncool, it is COOOOL!
>
> ahh yes, but you have to remember that Christopher Walken was a hoofer
> before he was an actor.
> apparently he did a few Broadway shows in the chorus line as a dancer
> before he made his way to the silver screen.
Didn't know that, but yes, you can see there's a bit of experience there..
What I want to know is this. How, in the name of Chosen Deity, could
someone possibly visualise that video in advance????
Can you imagine the pitch meeting:
"Now here's my idea for the Weapon of Choice graphics.. We get Chris
Walken to dance around and even fly, in a sort of.. well, hotel
environment!! Isn't it obvious?!"
"Umm, yeah, that was just what we wuz thinkin..."
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:52 am
From: "Atheist Chaplain"
"Mark Thomas" <mark.thomas.7@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:go386k$5nq$1@news.motzarella.org...
> Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>> "Mark Thomas" <mark.thomas.7@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:go3217$bdm$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>> JC Dill wrote:
>>>>> A few years ago I read about a copyright infringement case but I lost
>>>>> the details and now I can't find a cite to this case. The details:
>>>>>
>>>>> A photographer had a stock photo of a woman on the beach at sunset,
>>>>> with the sun peeking thru between her legs, forming a "starburst. A
>>>>> band wanted to use this photo on their album cover, and entered into
>>>>> negotiations with the photographer. The band felt the photographer
>>>>> wanted too much money, and stopped negotiating. They then hired
>>>>> another photographer to go out and shoot a substantially similar shot
>>>>> for their album cover. The first photographer sued, claiming that the
>>>>> second photographer "copied" his photo and violated his copyright. He
>>>>> won the case and was awarded a fairly hefty amount ($100k or so) for
>>>>> the copyright violation.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was in the 1970s or 1980s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this ring a bell with anyone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> jc
>>>>
>>>> Yup, I watched that case with some interest, as I had just bought the
>>>> album.. It was Fatboy Slim's "Halfway Between the Gutter and the
>>>> Stars", and the original shot was allegedly taken by Ernst Haas
>>>> ('Sunset Silhouette') - but I've never seen that image...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4450502-1.html
>>>
>>> PS - That album contains the decidedly weird "Weapon of Choice" track,
>>> which was the one with the even weirder, remarkable dancing from
>>> Christopher Walken.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLidy7pIQ8
>>>
>>> So uncool, it is COOOOL!
>>
>> ahh yes, but you have to remember that Christopher Walken was a hoofer
>> before he was an actor.
>> apparently he did a few Broadway shows in the chorus line as a dancer
>> before he made his way to the silver screen.
>
> Didn't know that, but yes, you can see there's a bit of experience there..
>
> What I want to know is this. How, in the name of Chosen Deity, could
> someone possibly visualise that video in advance????
>
> Can you imagine the pitch meeting:
>
> "Now here's my idea for the Weapon of Choice graphics.. We get Chris
> Walken to dance around and even fly, in a sort of.. well, hotel
> environment!! Isn't it obvious?!"
>
> "Umm, yeah, that was just what we wuz thinkin..."
:-)
I never thought of that, oh to be a fly on the wall at that meeting,
I'm sure something other than mother natures pure air was being inhaled that
night.
--
[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of
Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi
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TOPIC: geld lenen met een bkr notering,kapitaal hypothecaire lening,crediet
service bank,leergebonden financiering,goedkope autofinanciering,persoonlijke
lening en doorlopend,rente bij spaarrekening,lenen ondanks bkr notering,rente
hypotheken,verzekeringen leven,rentestand hypotheek,defam financiering,geld
lenen zonder vaste baan,geld lenen zonder bkr toetsing,tarieven persoonlijke
leningen,geld lenen ondanks bkr,beste autofinanciering,woonkrediet in,
financiering op afbetaling,juridisch aansprakelijk,
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/f003d9d686f9d5fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 1:29 am
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TOPIC: Help with specific picture
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/555c4ff6162ca6f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 3:16 am
From: Dave W
On 22 Feb, 22:36, "SS" <nonens...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies, I should get something to work now for a better
> picture.
>
> Appreciate your help.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think it's the white paper that's the trouble. The camera tries to
reproduce this as it's the main thing, and the scissors' grey scale
gets compressed and lost. I should change the background to grey. Also
put paper in front of the light to diffuse it, to avoid bright
reflections from the scissors that get reproduced at the expense of
the shadows.
Dave W
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TOPIC: How to take photos of killer bees?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/29db2647f8e00418?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 4:31 am
From: "whisky-dave"
"alvey" <alvey@play.com> wrote in message
news:1e5uy9rq8a3xj.hwn795n6fi05.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:39:37 -0800, John McWilliams wrote:
>
>> Argon wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>
>>> I want to take photos of killer bees.
>>>
>>> How can I do that?
>>
>>
>> First: Don't be afraid of Google archives unless you've something to
>> hide.
>> Second: Don't x-post to unrelated froup.
>> Third: Establish yourself before asking an open ended question that
>> looks and smells like bait.
>> Fourth: Tell us where such bees are located and where you are.
>
> Executive Summary:
>
> 1. Get naked.
> 2. Repeatedly poke their hive with a very short stick.
Better still use your penis, apparently snake venom acts like viagra
perhaps bee stings do too, be the first to find out :-)
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:15 am
From: C J Campbell
On 2009-02-24 11:29:45 -0800, "Argon" <Argon@Argon.Argon> said:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> I want to take photos of killer bees.
>
> How can I do that?
Camera, preferably one with a macro lens. You may also want a macro
lighting system. You will get better results if you work with a
biologist or beekeeper who knows where they are found, how to identify
them, and what their habits are. I might suggest Central America, where
Africanized hybrid bees are preferred by beekeepers because of their
greater productivity.
As of February 2009 the African hybridized bee has been found as far
north as southern Utah. Or you could just go to Tanzania and find
African bees that have not been hybridized. If you are afraid of the
bees, talk to beekeepers that have been working with gentler strains in
an effort to breed the aggressiveness out of the hybrid. Check with
Texas A&M University, which has been studying the bees in the United
States.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:29 am
From: Fritz Felber
C J Campbell schrieb:
>Newsgroups: de.alt.augenoptik,rec.photo.digital
Noch so ein Idiot, der ein idiotisches crossposting in eine deutsche
Gruppe macht. Wen interessiert dein Scheiß in "Augenoptik"?
You are very stupid, but also a lot of people around you!
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 6:14 am
From: "Allen"
"Allen" <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:-MGdnZAbB_YHOTnUnZ2dnUVZ_oDinZ2d@giganews.com...
> Argon wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> I want to take photos of killer bees.
>>
>> How can I do that?
>>
>>
> I used to take pictures of insects while I was still mobile enough to do
> so (pre-digital days) and for some unknown reason bees, bumblebees and
> various kinds of wasps paid little or no attention to me; other people I
> have known have not been so lucky. A story not involving me: years ago,
> the building where I worked had a courtyard open to the sky on the third
> floor, with small trees and many other plants in planters. One day a swarm
> of bees settled on one of the trees; one of our maintenance people, who
> lived on a farm, wanted them. He got a large cardboard box, closed it, cut
> a small hole in it and took it out on the courtyard. He reached
> _barehanded_ into the swarm, found the queen and pulled her out and
> dropped her into the hole in the box. He then stood back and waited for
> all the bees to follow her into the hole and then covered it. People were
> amazed, but he said that the humidity was low and that bees wouldn't
> bother people unless it were higher. I don't know if this is true
> generally, orf if it applies to Africanized bees, or if he was just lucky,
> but it worked for him that time with that swarm. You might consider the
> humidity before you try. Also, be aware that many people have died from
> multiple bee stings, especially Africanized ones. I would suggest that you
> find some newsgroups devoted to bees, or at least insects, and ask
> questions there.
>
> Allen (not the one who posted the sarcastic response).
Well, being that this idiot had just posted this in a piloting group:
x-no-archive: yes
Hello,
I want to drop a bomb on my neigbors head.
What do I need to do that?
--
*H. Allen Smith* (The Sarcastic One)
WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.
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TOPIC: Photos of cultivations
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/73684fdc56d114a8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 4:59 am
From: Caesar Romano
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:53:37 -0500, "Miguel"
<responderalgrupo@invalid.invalid> wrote Re Photos of cultivations:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/3307325704/
I like that one.
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TOPIC: Flash Exposure Compensation in Canon A590IS
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/afb5e546760ea2d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:05 am
From: bugbear
Peabody wrote:
> Everything is further complicated by the Scene settings
> Night Snapshot and Night Scene, and of course Canon says
> nothing specific about what the Scene settings actually do,
> in technical terms I mean.
If you're the sort of person who wants/needs to
now what they do (as opposed to what they're for)
you're probably not the sort of person
who'd ever use them!
BugBear
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TOPIC: Critiques
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/523ae9d180cbf377?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:25 am
From: Chris Malcolm
In rec.photo.digital tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2009 12:23:24 GMT, Chris Malcolm <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>>> I tried "critique" and came up with
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sarahkap83/2999897427/
>>
>>That's very odd because it's a photograph without the word "critique"
>>in its title, tags, description, or comments. In fact there are very
>>few words of any kind associated with it. What's more it has only been
>>looked at a dozen times in the months since it was put on display
>>(which of course may change now you've advertised it :-).
>>
>>It's hard to imagine what kind of search would ever find that image,
>>let alone put it near the top in a large trawl. Perhaps what you need
>>help with is how to do computer searches?
> Not particularly odd. I used "Flickr +critique" from the Google page,
> found several sub-groups, picked one, and scanned a few photos in that
> group.
That explains it. Flickr has its own specific organisation and
navigation methods which generic web page searchers won't necessarily
understand. Its own search and navigation facilities work better.
> Computer searches in general are not a problem for me, but I'm totally
> unfamiliar with how Flickr is set up. I wasn't aware that key words
> are used with photos in categories. I didn't see anything that
> explains their hierarchy.
It's not a hierarchy. There's some organisation based on people and
their photographs and some on groups, which have both photographs and
discussions. Like the Web there are many optional features for
building hierarchies. There are key word tagging facilities but the
keys are optional and individually chosen. Jpeg camera EXIF data is
used if present in the submitted photograph jpeg. Googlemap type
geotagging is available, and some groups make it mandatory.
Unfortunately Flickr knows me and my preferences well, so I can't see
what their introductory pages would look like from outside to a
stranger. I do recall that it's not as easy as it should be to find
out how to use Flickr. As a computer geek one thing I rather like is
that their designers have left a lot of DIY options open. There are
third party tools available which integrate with Flickr, places where
you can use your own (restricted) html code, and so on. It's clear
they expect you to learn a lot of it simply by playing around, and
that they expect users to invent their own ways of using it.
> I can work it out, though. I thought that some nice person in this
> group would offer some shortcuts or helpful pointers; I was just
> looking for a jump start in an unfamiliar area. That's what I would
> do if I was on the other end.
It's too big and diverse for that without a lot more personal context,
rather like saying "I'm visiting Europe for a week and looking for
advice."
Paul Furman's advice was good. The social aspect is very
important. You make friends with specific people and specific groups
of people. Groups are one way of finding people with similar
interests. Photograph descriptions and tags are another. You can check
out the groups and contacts of interesting people. And if you take
care to describe and tag your photographs in appropriate ways people
with similar interests will look for and find you.
Now I reflect on it I've actually got most of my useful criticism
indirectly. If I find myself struggling with a particular kind of
photograph I look for better photographs of the same kind of thing, or
in the case of well known things like buildings or beauty spots the
same thing. Studying better photographs of the same thing, and trying
to copy them, is a good way of learning. And in some cases you'll find
friendly experts or fellow students who are willing to help you.
In the case of specifically local photographs you may find local
photographers who'd welcome the opportunity to meet at a place of
photographic interest and learn together how to take better
photographs there.
There are plenty of Flickr groups set up with the specific purpose of
providing the kind of feedback you ask for, e.g., with rules that if
you post a photograph for criticism you must offer criticism of at
least the three previously posted photographs. Some of those may be
just what you're looking for, but they're too vague and unspecific for
me. What I found worked best for me was using Flickr to make friends
with photographers with similar interests.
--
Chris Malcolm
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TOPIC: Did the Canon boat sink?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/b0dfb9b4ed431024?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:28 am
From: SMS
bowser wrote:
>
> "Focus" <dont@mail.me> wrote in message
> news:yv-dnVBp3-SnUT7UnZ2dnUVZ8ooLAAAA@novis.pt...
>> SMS wrote:
>>> bowser wrote:
>>>> Just wondering where all the 5D IIs are, along with the extra
>>>> batteries? Still no stock I can find.
>>>
>>> Demand is extremely high. Amazon says 2-4 weeks, but I've seen that
>>> turn into months sometimes. OTOH, if you want a Nikon D700 you can
>>> get one right away.
>>
>> It's called "logistics" ;-)
>>
>> You'll be much better of with the D700 anyway...
>
> If I bought a D700 body, I wouldn't be able to produce a single
> exposure. The only gear I have that would work with it would be the CF
> cards. I'm not buying any camera that can't use my 24-105.
LOL, and that's why used Canon L lenses are so expensive, no one wants
to ever sell them.
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TOPIC: Vivitar is back
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/d2b614348aa7ac8c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 5:52 am
From: Martin Trautmann
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:11:58 +0000, Bruce wrote:
> Of the later lenses, only the Cosina-made 100mm f/3.5 Macro deserves any
> credit. It even appeared branded as a Canon lens in order to offer a
> low-cost alternative to Canon's own 100mm offering.
The same as for Pentax?
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/short-tele/FA100f3.5-Macro.html
- Martin
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TOPIC: Tiny old pancake lens in modern DSLR camera - What a contrast!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/a3efd7a0d81d3bfa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 25 2009 6:19 am
From: Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com>
saying something like:
>The popularity of M42 prime lenses for DSLR use has really inflated
>the prices over the last year or two - I used to pick them up for
>a couple of quid to use on my film cameras. There's also a glut of M42
>bodies on eBay. :-)
Indeed; I have several free Praks that came with the lenses I wanted, an
interesting old Cosina and the gem of the lot of free cams - what I
thought was an M42 version of the Ricoh Singlex, was actually the
earliest model Singlex with the Nikon F mount and a Rikenon (Tomioka)
1.4/55mm on the front (which was the bit I wanted). Rare as hen's teeth
nowadays.
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