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TOPIC: Point and shoot digitals with remote shutter???
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 1:18 am
From: Ralph Seguin

I'm looking to build up a stereoscopic shooting rig and would like to
find a pair of identical point and shoot cameras for the job.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot in the way of P&S
digital cameras that have remote wired or wireless shutter release
capability.

I know that the Canon G10 supports a wired remote, and while I would
love to get a pair of them and the remote shutter releases, they are
pricey. I was hoping for something more like <= $250 each.
I would prefer a relatively recent camera (within 1-2 years of now/
2009) with good image quality and controls and with good video quality
at 640x480 @ 30Hz.
I already own a Canon SD850IS, which is a great little point and shoot
(but not remote options :(

Suggestions?

I guess I could cobble together something like these, but I don't like
the idea of a manual cable release pushing on both shutter buttons:
http://eosdoc.com/manuals/?q=CableRelease
http://www.instructables.com/id/Hummingbird-Shooter/

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:21 am
From: Chris Malcolm

In rec.photo.digital Ralph Seguin <rpseguin@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm looking to build up a stereoscopic shooting rig and would like to
> find a pair of identical point and shoot cameras for the job.
> Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot in the way of P&S
> digital cameras that have remote wired or wireless shutter release
> capability.

> I know that the Canon G10 supports a wired remote, and while I would
> love to get a pair of them and the remote shutter releases, they are
> pricey. I was hoping for something more like <= $250 each.
> I would prefer a relatively recent camera (within 1-2 years of now/
> 2009) with good image quality and controls and with good video quality
> at 640x480 @ 30Hz.
> I already own a Canon SD850IS, which is a great little point and shoot
> (but not remote options :(

This Flickr group has lots of photographs of working stereo camera
rigs, and from there you should be able to find discussions about
suitable cameras and how to modify them. My impression is that
although few P&S can be operated in that way out of the box, there are
quite a few which can easily be adapted.

http://www.flickr.com/groups/stereoscopic-cameras/

--
Chris Malcolm

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 1:21 am
From: Ron Hunter

Roy G wrote:
> "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gn7nuq$6jh$1@news.motzarella.org...
>> Check out the cool guy here:
>> http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/20969/olympus-sp590uz/
>>
>> He is cool and young and sexy and good looking and
>
> --------------
>
> could be as thick as 2 short planks, and unable to recognise the good camera
> when given the choice.
>
> Roy G
>
>
Well, if the camera lives up to its press, then it will be a rather nice
addition to the choice list. However, given its rather grandiose
claims, I suspect they may have fallen short on some of them. One thing
I didn't see when skimming the article was any mention of the EFT
resolution, low light response, and image stabilization function, other
than 'dual mode', which may mean nothing. Still, it looks like a good
addition to the 'super-zoom' range of cameras. I look forward to
reading a test review.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 1:26 am
From: "David J Taylor"

Ron Hunter wrote:
> Roy G wrote:
>> "Charles" <charlesschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gn7nuq$6jh$1@news.motzarella.org...
>>> Check out the cool guy here:
>>> http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/20969/olympus-sp590uz/
>>>
>>> He is cool and young and sexy and good looking and
>>
>> --------------
>>
>> could be as thick as 2 short planks, and unable to recognise the
>> good camera when given the choice.
>>
>> Roy G
>>
>>
> Well, if the camera lives up to its press, then it will be a rather
> nice addition to the choice list. However, given its rather grandiose
> claims, I suspect they may have fallen short on some of them. One
> thing I didn't see when skimming the article was any mention of the
> EFT resolution, low light response, and image stabilization function,
> other than 'dual mode', which may mean nothing. Still, it looks like
> a good addition to the 'super-zoom' range of cameras. I look forward
> to reading a test review.

But Olympus seem to have so many very similar cameras, it makes me wonder
if they keep trying to get it right and just failing. Why so many?
Elsewhere, someone else commented that the colour fringing and the
pincushion/barrel distortion on their lenses was not at all good.

Cheers,
David

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:30 am
From: Chris Malcolm

John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:
> Charles wrote:
>> Check out the cool guy here:
>> http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/20969/olympus-sp590uz/
>>
>> He is cool and young and sexy and good looking and is holding the future in
>> his hands.

> No, that's a camera which may or may not portend what's to be in the
> future, and the guy dresses like a boy, and is a chimper.
>>
>> Check out the balding, nerdy creep in the background with his ridiculous
>> tripod and huge lens.

> It's a monopod, and quite useful.

> He's probably balding, but what makes him nerdy or creepy? What's wrong
> with balding?

Folk who have no other claim to fame than good looks and fashionable
clothes are terrified of being thought nerdy or creepy. In a technical
area like photography the big problem is that often a technical
requirement will make a camera look clumsy or ugly which would of
course ruin their chances of getting into bed with the desirable
sex. So they have to carefully restrict themselves to cameras which
look cool and fashionable.

Fortunately there are camera makers who produce models for these
handicapped people.

--
Chris Malcolm

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 1:42 am
From: Noons

Dudley Hanks wrote,on my timestamp of 15/02/2009 2:39 AM:

>
>
>
> Chuckle...
>
> I didn't realize the numbers were so high... Maybe it does qualify as a
> horde... :)

They're also selling it in droves after finding out the blessed thing doesn't
like humidity:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/antarctica-2009-worked.shtml
http://www.afashionshooter.com/2009/02/08/canon-5d2-so-long/

Evidently, the whole thing must be hurting:

http://fakechuckwestfall.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/shut-down-notice-from-canon/

Only Canon marketing could be stupid enough to promote their products through
Usenet scammers and try to shutdown sites like that one...

But don't let reality interfere with the voices...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:47 am
From: "Larry Thong"

Noons wrote:

> They're also selling it in droves after finding out the blessed thing
> doesn't like humidity:

So what you are telling me is the 5D2 is the same as the old 5D, a super
fantastic sensor wrapped in shit? Please don't tell me it is so? I was
hoping Canon got the problems ironed out of the body the second time around.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 2:18 am
From: Mike

On 6 Feb, 20:32, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
> fingerprints and look awful.
>
> http://nikonrumors.com/2009/02/06/nikon-d400-specs-24mp-touchscreen.aspx

Example of looking awful please?
Have you looked at iPod Touch etc recently? Minimal Fingerprint
residue and they look fabulous.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 2:58 am
From: "N"

"Dudley Hanks" <photos.digital@dudley-hanks.com> wrote in message
news:pD8ml.11811$Db2.2564@edtnps83...
>
> If a remote would give access to all settings, that could work. It would
> be really useful when the cam is mounted on a tripod and I need to change
> settings because of varying conditions.
>
> Canon, Nikon, Sony, are you listening?
>
> Take Care,
> Dudley
>
>

Nikon's MC-36 does lots of things and costs way too much.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 4:21 am
From: Bruce

Mike <mikerew66@googlemail.com> wrote:
>On 6 Feb, 20:32, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Rampant rumours about the D400. I don't like touchscreens, they show
>> fingerprints and look awful.
>>
>> http://nikonrumors.com/2009/02/06/nikon-d400-specs-24mp-touchscreen.aspx
>
>Example of looking awful please?
>Have you looked at iPod Touch etc recently? Minimal Fingerprint
>residue and they look fabulous.

I agree. I have an iPhone 3G (iPod Touch with a cell phone added!) and
expected the very high gloss surface to show every fingermark, but it
doesn't, except in oblique light.

Looking straight at the display, it looks pretty wonderful.

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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:11 am
From: Chris Malcolm

Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@removegmail.com> wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Malcolm
> <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> saying something like:

>>Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@removegmail.com> wrote:
>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Malcolm
>>> <cam@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> saying something like:
>>
>>> <of chore/choor>
>>
>>>>It's been commonplace playground and street slang in Scotland all my
>>>>life. I'd be surprised to find a local Scot who wasn't familiar with
>>>>it.
>>
>>> I've never heard it used in Scotland meaning 'to steal'. That doesn't
>>> mean it isn't used that way, but I'd suggest it's a very localised
>>> usage, perhaps near a barracks where a regiment brought the word back
>>> with them after Indian service, perhaps many decades ago, and it stuck.
>>
>>If so it must have spread since then, since I've heard it in Dundee,
>>Edinburgh, and Glasgow, which pretty much spans the Lowlands from east
>>to west.

> I was born and brought up in the West and it was unheard of there, so
> it's a recent introduction.

I've been trying to remember, and I'm pretty sure I never encountered
it in my youth. My impression is that I first came across it among my
son's teenage school friends in the east, which is two or three
decades ago.

--
Chris Malcolm

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 6:22 am
From: Chris H

In message
<2009020918301450073-christophercampbellremovethis@hotmailcom>, C J
Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis@hotmail.com> writes
>On 2009-01-20 02:36:44 -0800, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>
>> In message <4974ed8f$0$27584$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Ofnuts
>><o.f.n.u.t.s@la.poste.net> writes
>>> Arnold wrote:
>>>
>>>> But in Mumbai I'm thinking I really don't want the camera to show
>>>>
>>>> possible. That's for security reasons -- less chance of a snatcher
>>>> getting it -- plus no need to be inhibited about shooting.
>>> This is India. Actually safer for foreigners than many places in
>>>the US or Europe.
>> Really.... I thought there were dragons and tourists were taken as
>>slaves and people with knives slit everyone's throat.... People always
>>fear what they don't know :-(
>> They know about India from multiple screenings of the documentary
>>films " the North West Frontier" and the "Khyber Pass" etc and the
>>information about the average Saturday night in Mumbai a few weeks ago.
>> After 9/11 90% of Americans stopped flying the Atlantic for about 3
>>months.
>> NOTE that after all his travels across Asia and China Marco Polo had
>>to get back to Europe to be robbed....
>
>Ironic, that.

Rather.

>However, the only place I have ever been burglarized or robbed was in
>the Philippines. I have had stuff taken from my hotel room in Rome.
>Come to think of it, when I was a kid, I was mugged at knife point for
>my lunch money in a school yard in Bellevue, Washington.

An interesting statistic is the USA makes up 5% of the worlds people but
has 25% of the worlds prisoners.... (and has the death penalty) so it
would seem that crime is comparatively high in the US (that or in other
countries they don't make it as far as the Police cells :-)

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:15 am
From: tony cooper

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:22:31 +0000, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
wrote:

>
>An interesting statistic is the USA makes up 5% of the worlds people but
>has 25% of the worlds prisoners.... (and has the death penalty) so it
>would seem that crime is comparatively high in the US (that or in other
>countries they don't make it as far as the Police cells :-)

The conclusion is not that there is more crime in the US, but that
more things are considered illegal in the US. When you add up the
population of the world, you include countries that do not have legal
penalties for certain actions. You include countries in Africa, for
example, where no one is in jail for traffic violations, drug use,
parole violation, tax fraud, and number of other things that are
considered to be crimes that can result in imprisonment in the US.

The above is pointed out not to say that crime is not high in the US,
but to bring those 5% and 25% figures into more realistic perspective.

Statistics like this are invariably flawed. I've seen statistical
comparisons that show that violent crimes are higher in one place than
in another, and then found that the statistics are dramatically skewed
because both places do not categorize crimes the same. One will
consider any crime where a weapon was involved as a violent crime, and
the other will consider it a violent crime only if the weapon was
used. A robbery at gunpoint in one place is a violent crime, but it
is only a violent crime in the other place if the weapon was
discharged.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

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TOPIC: Abstract paintings of Will Dockery
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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:52 am
From: Dale Houstman

0x0000 wrote:

>
> Amazing. You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker. Sounds like
> you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH. At
> least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
> paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
> of-local-folk-artists" drivel. Thanks for playing. Hope you do
> better next time...
>

I guess all those years of being top student at an Art School, studying
the history and the practice of art, plus having spent only my entire
lifetime creating art of various sorts just didn't pay off.

By the way, genius - your writing lacks impact, as it fails to logically
address its target's flaws, and ends by being merely a snarky rant
rather than an intelligent riposte. I suggest you return to high school
writing classes, and try to gain a little expertise in simple communication.

dmh

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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 3:56 am
From: Will Dockery

On Feb 15, 7:10 pm, 0x0000 wrote:
>Dale Houstman wrote:
> > Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > I've posted a new gallery of some of my recent abstract paintings, which
> > > some of you may have an interest in checking out, for whichever reasons you prefer.
>
> > > These paintings are made with a variety of materials from oil, watercolor
> > > and pastel paints, to housepaint, solvents and melted plastics:
>
> > >http://www.fototime.com/inv/E917106F136751F
>
> > > Comments and critique, as with all my work in all forms, is most welcome.
>
> > They are all pretty much the same apart from being different colors. I
> > suppose you think they're akin to Pollack's work, but Pollack is one of
> > those figures (like "e.e. cummings" in poetry) who - although marvelous
> > in their own right - have served as "bad examples" and invitations to
> > laziness for an entire generation of artists. With "cummings" it is the
> > notion that if one just puts in enough punctuation, splits up words,
> > spells words oddly, etc. then poetry is inevitable. The Beats obviously
> > serve a similar function for you and many other mediocre-to-terrible
> > performance "artists". Here - in your "paintings" - you seem to think if
> > you dribble enough colored crap on a canvas, it must - by some universal
> > law of cosmic kindness - create a work which is the perfect expression
> > of some inner passion you pretend to feel. But they are just charmless
> > masses of direction-less non-intent. The contrast with Pollack's works
> > is instructive: despite his being called a "dribbler" his works reveal
> > intent, there is strength, energy, and a "rush toward an answer" to his
> > lines: he is truly finding the "expression" in "abstract expressionism".
> > Yours are an (unintentional and unfunny) parody of his accomplishments,
> > more a critique of what those who disliked his work thought his work was
> > than an understanding of his vision.
>
> Amazing. You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker. Sounds like
> you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH. At
> least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
> paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
> of-local-folk-artists" drivel. Thanks for playing. Hope you do
> better next time...

Most likely he won't, since Dale's too busy being charmed by his own
30 year old navel gazings to do much of anything else, these days.

--
Shadowville Speedway CD info:
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 4:15 am
From: "msifg"

"Dale Houstman" <dmh7@skypoint.com> wrote in message
news:9sWdnZdN86L5zgTUnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@skypoint.com...
> 0x0000 wrote:
>
>>
>> Amazing. You fell for Pollack hook, line, and sinker. Sounds like
>> you're not really qualified in the area of criticism of Art, DMH. At
>> least, you've failed to establish any creds for yourself with /that/
>> paragraph of "suck-up-to-the-faggy-new-york-art-crowd-at-the-expense-
>> of-local-folk-artists" drivel. Thanks for playing. Hope you do
>> better next time...
>>
>
>
> I guess all those years of being top student at an Art School, studying
> the history and the practice of art, plus having spent only my entire
> lifetime creating art of various sorts just didn't pay off.
>
> By the way, genius - your writing lacks impact, as it fails to logically
> address its target's flaws, and ends by being merely a snarky rant rather
> than an intelligent riposte. I suggest you return to high school writing
> classes, and try to gain a little expertise in simple communication.
>
> dmh

"top student."

and look at you now:
top asshole.

i guess being at the top of something is
pretty important for you.

congratulations on the whole "top" thing.

let me top it off by mentioning that you're
now a top dipshit nobody who's opinion means
about as much as a pimples opinion on a dogs
ass.

how's that for a "top?"

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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 5:12 am
From: "whisky-dave"

"Twibil" <nowayjose6@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3efc9026-1788-46d6-ba7c-b31082931661@x11g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 15, 12:45 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:

> You're still a thief and coward.

Eh. Theives are at least as able to rationalize their dishonesty as
anyone else. Probably more so. The words "Nikon should be giving this
program away for free or for much less money" tells you everything you
need to know about this worm: he's one of those dim bulbs with an
overwhelming sense of entitlement and an under-developed conscience.
And that sense of entitlement, should someone liberate a portion of
*his* property "for the greater good", would suddenly evaporate like
snow before a blowtorch.

"I shouldn't have to work for anything unless I feel like it" is the
oldest excuse in the world for taking something that doesn't belong to
you.

wow, I didn't realise RH was a banker ;-0.
Hand back those bonuses'

~Pete

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 5:25 am
From: "whisky-dave"

"Marco Tedaldi" <news0109.kruemi@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
news:gn9hik$n2$1@news.motzarella.org...
> Cynicor schrieb:
>> Robin Hood wrote:
>>> Hi Group
>>>
>>> Here is another freebie just for you!
>>>
>>> 1- Download the 60 day trial at Nikon USA:
>>> 2-Use universal serial below and register in your name etc.
>>> You MUST block Capture NX with your firewall and it will work fine. If
>>> you do not block, it will reject your serial number.
>>
>> How is software theft different from breaking a store's window and
>> stealing a camera if you don't feel like paying for it?
>
> This is what the copyright-industry wants you to think.
> No, I don't think it's ok to use software without having a valid
> license. That's why I don't use software which I don't have a license
> for. But it is definitely not the same and there are several reasons.
>
> 1. Not everyone who uses a software without having a proper license
> would be using it if he had to pay for. So there is no loss for the
> producer of this software.

True.

> 2. One of the main reasons for the great success of PS and also Windows
> and other MS-Software is, that it was widely used without proper
> license. This made the software a quasi standard. So it might even be a
> win for the company!

I think it is, it's a definite advantage if your product is out there being
used.

> And that is the main reason why I'm against using software without
> proper licensing! It is a problem for REAL free software! Linux and all
> the software under the different free licenses would win a big market
> share if everyone had to pay for the software they are now using!

True again, but who actaully pays for the software a compnay does use?
Thuink about it, who pays for teh software that creatred the movie or stills
from the camera that you saw as an advertisement......

Answer:- those that brought what was advertised, no one else . :)
So even buying a can of beans might mean a small fraction of what you have
paid for
the can of beans has gone to adobe or whoever.....
Now if teh bean company had used a 'free' version of teh software or an
alterantive
version your beans might be cheaper, but then again all that would have
happend is that the
'manager' would have had an increase in pay via greater profit margins.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 5:53 am
From: Father Guido Sarducci

In message news:4998c6a6$0$1597$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net, rfischer@sonic.net
(Ray Fischer) said:

> Neil Harrington <secret@illumnati.net> wrote:
>>
>>"Father Guido Sarducci" <don@novello.com> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9BB35A4DE8B9BFatherGuido@198.186.190.61...
>>> In message news:3efc9026-1788-46d6-ba7c-
>>> b31082931661@x11g2000pro.googlegroups.com, Twibil
<nowayjose6@gmail.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> "I shouldn't have to work for anything unless I feel like it" is the
>>>> oldest excuse in the world for taking something that doesn't belong to
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> No, it's the unofficial Obama campaign theme.
>>
>><guffaw!>
>>
>>You've sure got THAT right!
>
> Then why is it rethuglicans who invariably take money form others in
> order to benefit themselves?

You mean like Blago? William Jefferson? Bill Richardson?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 5:54 am
From: Father Guido Sarducci

In message news:71f1f2f1-04d7-47da-a6c6-
08ec296c0eaf@x6g2000pre.googlegroups.com, Twibil <nowayjose6@gmail.com>
said:

> On Feb 15, 5:52 am, Father Guido Sarducci <d...@novello.com> wrote:
>> In message news:3efc9026-1788-46d6-ba7c-
>> b31082931...@x11g2000pro.googlegroups.com, Twibil <nowayjo...@gmail.com>
>> said:
>>
>> > "I shouldn't have to work for anything unless I feel like it" is the
>> > oldest excuse in the world for taking something that doesn't belong to
>> > you.
>>
>> No, it's the unofficial Obama campaign theme.
>
> You lost.

So did you. (BTW I didn't vote for McInsane)

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Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:19 am
From: Dave Cohen

Ray Fischer wrote:
> Peabody <waybackNO784SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> The local Staples store had the A590IS on sale for $99, and
>> I figured that's as good a deal as I need, and I picked one
>> up this morning. A couple questions for the experts here:
>>
>> I'm usually reluctant to install software that comes with
>> devices like this. It usually doesn't work well, and just
>> adds yet another startup program. I'm sure XP would have no
>> problem downloading regular pictures, but there are other
>> things it might not handle well, like videos, and perhaps
>> other things. Does anyone have strong feelings on this
>> software installation question, either way, for this
>> particular camera?
>
> Shrug. Canon's one of the big players and their software is going to
> be less crappy than some others.
>
>> I plan to use CHDK with this camera and do some lengthy
>> time-lapse sequences. Instead of buying the AC adapter, I
>> would like to build an external battery pack (two C or D
>> cells), and plug that into the DC-In jack where the adapter
>> would normally plug in. But I would need the right
>> connector to do that. From what I can find, it appears to
>> be an EIAJ-01 connector, 2.35 X 0.7 mm. This connector used
>> to be R/S item 274-1531, but alas, no longer. Does anyone
>> know where I can get one of these connectors?
>
> You can buy the AC adapter and just cut off the brick. :-)
>

The size of the plug is determined by polarity and to some extent
voltage. You should be able to get the plug from Radio Shack. Take the
camera and they can figure out the polarity. On the A95 it's center +ve,
I imagine yours would be same.
Dave Cohen

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:24 am
From: Rol_Lei Nut

Peter wrote:
> Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote

>> I urge everyone to boycott this scumbag.
>
> Interesting.... I wonder if the existence of these websites is why
> scammers keep changing their Ebay identity. I can't see how these
> sites could keep track otherwise. And you can change your Ebay name
> anytime.
>
> It's easy with scam sellers - they get bad feedback which you can see.
> Scam buyers don't - they can just keep going.
>
> Paypal will always protect the buyer.

Ha!

I got a defective camera, started a case, and Paypal just closed the
case because I'm away from home and couldn't meet their 8-day deadline
for sending the camera back to the seller, over 2.5 months after I
bought the item.

Also, I had already spent €59 to get an offical condition appraisal (as
they requested), with another tight deadline (the request came one day
before I left home).

Of course, anyone with a pending case should just stay home indefinitely
or else take the defective item with them around the World...

Never again Paypal!!!!!

Sorry for the rant, but I'm really pissed-off!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:38 am
From: tony cooper

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:24:38 +0100, Rol_Lei Nut
<Speleo_karstremovelenscap@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Peter wrote:
>> Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote
>
>>> I urge everyone to boycott this scumbag.
>>
>> Interesting.... I wonder if the existence of these websites is why
>> scammers keep changing their Ebay identity. I can't see how these
>> sites could keep track otherwise. And you can change your Ebay name
>> anytime.
>>
>> It's easy with scam sellers - they get bad feedback which you can see.
>> Scam buyers don't - they can just keep going.
>>
>> Paypal will always protect the buyer.
>
>Ha!
>
>I got a defective camera, started a case, and Paypal just closed the
>case because I'm away from home and couldn't meet their 8-day deadline
>for sending the camera back to the seller, over 2.5 months after I
>bought the item.
>
>Also, I had already spent €59 to get an offical condition appraisal (as
>they requested), with another tight deadline (the request came one day
>before I left home).
>
>Of course, anyone with a pending case should just stay home indefinitely
>or else take the defective item with them around the World...
>
>Never again Paypal!!!!!
>
>Sorry for the rant, but I'm really pissed-off!

Why are you pissed at PayPal? It is the seller who sent you a
defective camera, and presumably the seller who refused to replace the
camera or provide you with a refund.

The seller caused the problem.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 16 2009 7:45 am
From: Christopher Loffredo

tony cooper wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:24:38 +0100, Rol_Lei Nut
> <Speleo_karstremovelenscap@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter wrote:
>>> Grimly Curmudgeon <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote
>>>> I urge everyone to boycott this scumbag.
>>> Interesting.... I wonder if the existence of these websites is why
>>> scammers keep changing their Ebay identity. I can't see how these
>>> sites could keep track otherwise. And you can change your Ebay name
>>> anytime.
>>>
>>> It's easy with scam sellers - they get bad feedback which you can see.
>>> Scam buyers don't - they can just keep going.
>>>
>>> Paypal will always protect the buyer.
>> Ha!
>>
>> I got a defective camera, started a case, and Paypal just closed the
>> case because I'm away from home and couldn't meet their 8-day deadline
>> for sending the camera back to the seller, over 2.5 months after I
>> bought the item.
>>
>> Also, I had already spent €59 to get an offical condition appraisal (as
>> they requested), with another tight deadline (the request came one day
>> before I left home).
>>
>> Of course, anyone with a pending case should just stay home indefinitely
>> or else take the defective item with them around the World...
>>
>> Never again Paypal!!!!!
>>
>> Sorry for the rant, but I'm really pissed-off!
>
> Why are you pissed at PayPal? It is the seller who sent you a
> defective camera, and presumably the seller who refused to replace the
> camera or provide you with a refund.
>
> The seller caused the problem.

Paypal is supposed to offer buyer protection exactly for these problems.

I spent a lot of time and money to comply with their arbitrary demands
and deadlines, until the last one which I simply couldn't meet.

And, yes, I did explain the fact that I was abroad to them, to no avail.

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