Tuesday, March 24, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* CM and Adobe - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/368c7df179da8e8a?hl=en
* Smooth edges? - 6 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d2c269af74b2d4d0?hl=en
* Photoshop CS4 11.0.1 – crash upon save, leaves small sized corrupt PSD file -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/aef2f06ee0661011?hl=en
* Options for saving tiffs - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/41b674857511cff6?hl=en
* Save As TIF vs. PSD? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c6dbf06a25769dc8?hl=en
* Photoshop CS2 Start Up Screen - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4c6247b3fcf05044?hl=en
* CS4: Clone tool cursor throws shadow under cursor - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/01b93b5ee5eca9e9?hl=en
* CS2 with Leopard - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/09df004ac3354602?hl=en
* Anyone dare to try Safari 4 beta? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6d6f0365875b592d?hl=en
* Best practice: where to save optional presets, plugins, etc. - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2b9ad8bfdbf56793?hl=en

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TOPIC: CM and Adobe
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/368c7df179da8e8a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:27 pm
From: randalqueen@adobeforums.com


Thanks for responding. Yes, I am embedding the sRGB profile when testing. That is why I was looking for a non-browser app instead of Firefox or Safari. Something else to view them in.

Why would Bridge or CS4 show the images okay but not the browsers all of a sudden. So thought maybe checking in yet another app would clear the mystery.

Now, I did think of this... when things were working in the browsers on the ACD, and I had the laptop profile set on its own, I took Firefox and slid that from the ACD screen to the laptop screen. Just to view the something. I didn't notice if this was the exact time that the colors went to the saturated look on the ACD so guess I would have to test this.

I need to run errands now but will try to do this and report back here.

JM- I am still unclear as a newer mac user why any app would want to assume monitor RGB. As a previous PC user, I know if you calibrated your monitor, sometimes some app may use monitorRGB and not assume sRGB. But that was not the OS.

Anyway, if using MonitorRGB will only make your images look correct only on your monitor, then I think assuming sRGB would be a better route, though for now nothing is perfect ;)


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:53 pm
From: randalqueen@adobeforums.com


I really think its the OS. When I go to Finder and view an image I am about to right click on and open in Firefox, even the image in the preview at the top will be saturated when I have the laptop one profile and the ACD with its profile. That tells me what I am about to see in Firefox will not be correct. Not sure why Adobe CS4 and Bridge will still display correctly.

Again, the work around seems to be to set both the laptop and ACD to the same profile. Now, I have not yet recalibrated the laptop but only verified the profile, so maybe I need to trash the profile for the laptop and recalibrate but I am out of time and need to head out and will do so later.

I have always been suspicious of the dual monitor system on this notebook. And have heard of others having problems as well when running a dual system though maybe not on a laptop.

Will test later and report.

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TOPIC: Smooth edges?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d2c269af74b2d4d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:31 pm
From: Michael_P._Mills@adobeforums.com


I have an image on which I want to round the corners, but when I do they are jagged. I would like to know how to make the rounded corners smooth.

Any suggestions?


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:35 pm
From: randalqueen@adobeforums.com


What type of image? I guess we are talking anti aliasing here. Usually on corners if you created a block let's say and wanted rounded corners, one could take the black and white version into a channel and gaussian blur the image and then use levels to create rounded corners but I have a feeling this isn't what you are referring to.

Can you elaborate?


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:40 pm
From: randalqueen@adobeforums.com


If you are trying to create this...

<http://devblog.ailon.org/devblog/post/2008/03/Photoshop-Universal-Rounded-Corners-Action.aspx>

see here

<http://www.ezroundedcorners.com/> and it will auto it for you.

Or create a mask...

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ha8_rfkyJo>


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:43 pm
From: randalqueen@adobeforums.com


Here is the other way

<http://www.metacafe.com/watch/383421/amazing_photoshop_magic_smooth_rounded_corners_with_no_aliasing/>


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:55 pm
From: Michael_P._Mills@adobeforums.com


Thanks for all the help. I especially like the metacafe tutorial.
Michael


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 1:37 pm
From: Zeno_Bokor@adobeforums.com


Using Gaussian blur and Levels to make rounded corners tends to leave half selected pixels on the outline, better use the Rounded Rectangle tool and then Command+click on the vector mask to load the selection

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 11.0.1 – crash upon save, leaves small sized corrupt PSD
file
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/aef2f06ee0661011?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:32 pm
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Make sure you send the crash reports to Adobe (via the prompt on crash, not here).

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TOPIC: Options for saving tiffs
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/41b674857511cff6?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:37 pm
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


PSD uses well documented lossless compression schemes, but some of the file structure is not well documented. If you want the files to last a hundred years, maybe PSD isn't the right archiving format. No compression is the most robust when it comes to corrupted bits - assuming you have all the space and time to work with files that way.

Moire like patterns are more likely due to the camera sensor than a lossless compression format.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:57 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


The image in which I saw those artifacts (they were a bit like a liquid-stain) was posted in the ACR forum a few months ago.

It was taken with a D3 (which is what I use) and I have never experienced that effect in my shots of similar subject matter (an against-the-light shot across a river) and I don't think that it was lens flare.

It may just be co-incidence, but that image had been shot with compression (which I don't use because it isn't necessary in a camera that supports twin cards and 32GB of space).


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 2:55 pm
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Chris,

If you want the files to last a hundred years, maybe PSD isn't the right
archiving format.


Thanks for the straight response. So, for longer term archiving, would uncompressed TIF be the best bet? Archived to which medium/media?

Neil


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 3:03 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Archived to which medium/media


Which ever medium your best guess tells you will still be readable by a machine that is in existence in a hundred years' time?!

[Joking apart, this is a major issue for Institutions like the Library of Congress.]

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TOPIC: Save As TIF vs. PSD?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c6dbf06a25769dc8?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 12:40 pm
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Jim - no. Layer data in TIFF files does not prevent the files from being read by other applications.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 1:16 pm
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


Chris - I mean if the Photoshop document has something like an adjustment layer or a text layer, another app may not know what to do with that Photoshop-specific data that is packed in the TIFF file.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 1:30 pm
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Jim - correct, the other application will just see the flattened composite image and won't see the layers.

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS2 Start Up Screen
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4c6247b3fcf05044?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 1:37 pm
From: john_fonteno@adobeforums.com


How do I adjust settings so I can get a full,clear photoshop workspace when launching Photoshop CS2 on my Mac G4. My OSX start up screen is constantly in the background. How to adjust? Thanks


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 2:28 pm
From: J_Maloney@adobeforums.com


<http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/26396>
<http://www.manytricks.com/desktopcurtain/>

Or use full screen mode. Hit the 'f' key.

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TOPIC: CS4: Clone tool cursor throws shadow under cursor
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/01b93b5ee5eca9e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 1:51 pm
From: Phil_Taz@adobeforums.com


You can temporarily toggle it on with option-shift.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 2:31 pm
From: Zeno_Bokor@adobeforums.com


Ann, that button is for ignoring adjustment layers, he's talking about a button to disable the clipped overlay

Phil, option+shift only works if you have the overlay option deselected in the clone source panel


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 3:17 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


The button on the Options Bar, opens or closes the Clone Panel (in which you can turn Show Overlay On or Off).

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TOPIC: CS2 with Leopard
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/09df004ac3354602?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 2:43 pm
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Kellie,

We need a bit more information. When you say your hard drive crashed, do you mean fatally, and it had to be replaced? If not, what did you do to get it running again? Did you reformat/run Disk Utility/run Disk Warrior/etc.?

CS2 has to run under Rosetta emulation. It will not run natively under Leopard. Where did you "download" CS2 from? Or do you mean that you reinstalled it? If so, how?

As for Camera Raw, if you just got a new camera, chances are Camera Raw will not work as your camera is undefined by the older software that will run with CS2. However, I believe that you can download the free Adobe DNG and convert your raw files.

So, please get back to us.

Neil

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TOPIC: Anyone dare to try Safari 4 beta?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6d6f0365875b592d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 3:12 pm
From: Lundberg02@adobeforums.com


As I said , the "minimum font size" box will fix reply box font size , up to the point where it conflicts with standard.

Still can't find any reference to color management, in Prefs, help or in google. Also no reference as to what you get when you pay for iCab.

Hard to figure out bookmarking and especially tabs so far, maybe it will suddenly come to me. It is noticeably faster than Safari 3, but the fundamental problem is still there.

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TOPIC: Best practice: where to save optional presets, plugins, etc.
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2b9ad8bfdbf56793?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 3:14 pm
From: Douglas_M._Johnson@adobeforums.com


Using CS4 on a Mac Pro, what is the best practice for where to place optional presets, plugins, actions, etc.?

As a longtime PS user but just now migrating to the darkside, I have become quite confused.
After reading several hundred messages in this forum, I see conflicting or inconsistent direction: "drop into the appropriate applications folder", "drop into Application Support", "tell PS to look in a unique AddIns folder" (in Preferences where I used to tell PS where to find Silverfast - had that pain, learned that lesson). Furthering my confusion, an Apple Support person discouraged placing anything in any system folder - which would include Library/App support/... - on the basis that it would be overwritten if the machine ever had to be rebuilt.

In the Windows world, I was proficient in placing such items into C:\Documents and Settings\Application Data\... .

With the Mac reputation for stability, the apparently varying practices are puzzling. Would appreciate advice. Tell me, "Macs are so good it doesn't matter where you put 'em!"

Doug


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 24 2009 3:34 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


an Apple Support person discouraged placing anything in any system folder
- which would include Library/App support/...


It IS a bit confusing because there are three different "Library" Folders:

HD/System/Library … that one you do leave alone.

HD/Library/… Various software and Applications' support files get installed in this location; and you may need to add special components in this area from time to time.

Users/ you /Library … this is the place where data that is specially for your individual use is stored; including your Preferences and your Photoshop Settings.

Photoshop CS4 installs the default Presets in:
HD/Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS4/Presets

but it normally saves any Preset which you create personally in
Users/…/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Photoshop CS4/Presets.

If you are the sole user of your computer, you might want to keep your own presets in the same folder as the Default Presets.

Just be sure to keep copies so that you dont't lose them if you need to re-install Photoshop.


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