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TOPIC: Soft Brush Problem in Photoshop CS3 - edges of brush show pink banding
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7d661a3f6ef25ddd?hl=en
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 8:42 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

It's really a pain because when I mask anything it looks like there is actually a hard edge instead of a soft edge... Here is another example of what it looks like when I mask an image with a soft brush... there is a hard edge appearing.

I did run a quick print and it appears that it is in fact printing this way as well.

Believe it or not this mask was made with a 600 pxl brush at 0% hardness.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1uHBTDYFltjQakD2sIqoPL4JPmSw0>

== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 8:47 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

This image shows the problem very clearly... just a simple brush stroke like before but this one used black instead of blue....

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=17H8OAsFX19YKOzWt9cQgdBeMBZkS1>

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 8:58 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com

Kenneth,

The pinkish glow appears to be an afterimage -- an optical phenomenon of your eyes where you see the opposite of the color displayed, particularly if you stare at a strong color for a bit. Stare at the blue for 30 seconds and then look away onto a nearby white surface -- you'll see a strong pink afterimage.

If you are seeing color banding in the blue, that is because of the limited transition steps there are from the darkest blue to white. This is particularly evident when the tonal change is relatively small, but the width of the transition area is large. You can try adding a slight bit of noise to minimize the effect.

Neil

== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:00 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Kenneth - theres really nothing WRONG with the images you have posted. The problem lies with your display. You say you have a new LCD monitor…

• Make sure your monitor is profiled - monitor profiles can be changed on mac using the Displays setting in System Preferences

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:01 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

I appreciate the help Neil but how would this account for the hardness of the edge on a black and white photo? I have a hard time believing that this is my eyes when it prints out with this banded look as well. Did you take a look at the baby photo and the black brush stroke version I posted?

== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:01 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:05 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

My monitor is set to to cinema HD 1920x1200 which I believe is correct for this monitor. I have never changed the monitor settings as it has always looked beautiful on this setting and this is the default setting that it came with. I say that it is new but it is actually about a year old. I purchased it brand new though. Colors in preferences are set to millions and I went through the Display Callibrator Assistant in prefs to recallibrate but this issue still appears.

== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:05 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

The serious problem you describe, with a sudden cutout of tones, may be due to some more serious fault with the monitor

== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:07 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

The monitor looks perfect in every other respect. It is an apple 24" flat panel LCD.

== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:08 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

It could be a dodgy or corrupt monitor profile. Try as an experiment changing the monitor profile to something else and see if this helps

== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:12 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

Changing the monitor profile doesn't seem to help at all.

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:27 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Ok then, you need to set the monitor color, brightness and contrast controls back to their defaults as a starting point

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:37 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com

Kenneth,

I have never changed the monitor settings as it has always looked beautiful
on this setting and this is the default setting that it came with.

Do you have a hardware calibrator for your monitor? It is the best way to create a smooth tonal scale and accurate color. If you are seeing a hard edge in subtle tonal gradations, it could be as I described earlier and/or monitor calibration.

Neil

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 10:00 am
From: Kenneth_McIntyre@adobeforums.com

Hi Neil. I do not have a hardware calibrator for my monitor. Is there one that you would recommend?

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TOPIC: Photoshop performance on new Mac Pro "Nehalem"
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/51c1421c634f2c2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 8:49 am
From: DYP@adobeforums.com

Hopefully the rewrite of PSCS5 will make a huge difference.

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TOPIC: New Mac Pros, iMacs and Minis introduced
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/14ab36a13b239952?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 8:54 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com

NOW they are talking … all we need now is Snow Leopard and the necessary cash!

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TOPIC: correcting exposure in Photoshop/Bridge
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2c73d2c889bfb104?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:13 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Camera RAW is embedded into Bridge. Which does allow you to alter (non destructively) the perceived exposure of RAW files.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:40 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com

ACR not exactly "embedded" in Bridge — but you can open files in ACR from Bridge just as you can also open files in ACR through Photoshop.

I recommend that you should do all of the corrections that you possibly can non-destructively in ACR (including Capture Sharpening and Local Corrections) before doing the final work in Photoshop.

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TOPIC: Set Foreground and Background Color Options?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/dd67f7b9fb4dd5d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:14 am
From: "Mark B Anstendig"

That may be theoretically true. And, at The Anstendig Institute (www.anstendig.org), we certainly did a lot of printing and viewing/comparing, as well as on our 30" and 27" monitors, which can display quite large.

All we noticed when the focus was on the most important image point (usually but not absolutely always the nearest eye in a portrait) was that sharpening hardened the image and wrecked some felicities, especially if the image was subtle.

I have plenty of closely cropped images that are the equivalent of enlarging a 35mm photo way beyond the 13 x 19 of my printer. And nothing more than my original is needed. No sharpening. Nothing. There have been whole boards of evaluators viewing and comparing. Not just me.

As I said. A complete understanding and threshing out of the effects of exact placement of the plane of best/absolute focus in a photo is necessary before one can have a real opinion and really evaluate results.

Such a basic threshing out was done during the 60s, when I worked with the inventor, Joseph Dahl, of the Messraster. And much of the explanations and results is posted at both www.anstendig.org and www.anstendig.com. Even US Camera Mag did a whole article on this, using my photos.

However, I have to say that I have never used anything except a manual focusing Messraster until the first Canon EOS-1Ds came out, around 6 or 7 years ago and then the EOS-1Ds Mk II since then. And I have never used anything other then one single sensor placed exactly on the most important image point, and, after achieving focus, the angle of the camera was never ever changed in order to further frame my subject.

Those cameras are a cut above most others out there....or at least they were until possibly very recently, when Nikon brought out their 52 sensor camera (I think that is the number), which I have not yet tried.

Anyway. Don't worry. I will absolutely not do any sharpening anywhere in the basic processing. But, please remember that, if I find some day I need some somewhere, I can still add it. All my original negs and digital files are safe.

In the meantime, if you want to really learn something new and important, I would suggest checking the writings on focusing and sharpness at www.anstendig.org and the examples at www.anstendig.com.

I went to Europe on a German Government Grant given to Juilliard as an orchestra conductor. I became a photographer. And after I mastered all aspects of photography, I stopped and moved on. And Joseph Dahl died. So I wasn't around to champion these realities for well over 3 decades.

Now I have posted them and enough examples (many more are coming).

You all might learn something.

I will study my tool problem. And many thanks for whatever was said to solve it.

Mark

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:49 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com

Christoph is correct:
The "Capture and Output Sharpening" that I am talking about have nothing to do with original focussing in the camera but are entirely related to optimizing digitized images — whether created by scanning from Film or originating from a capture in a digital camera.

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TOPIC: CS4 Space bar doesn't work to reposition a marquee
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/794549e8f73d1ca3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:20 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Make sure that your keyboard shortcuts are set so that Spotlight isn't activated with spacebar. You now have to remove or reassign most of the OS shortcuts to get Photoshop to behave properly.

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TOPIC: Question about Layer Sets
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e97f9a6a566d862a?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:27 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com

Mark,

Yes, while I understand that the essentials of Photoshop are the same or similar, I wouldn't classify my viewpoint as "rubbish". Why should I pay to learn older software, when I can pay the same to learn the new and get an introduction to added capabilities or changed workflows?

Neil

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:52 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

… and you might find you prefer driving it. No-one at college level is going to have anything to do with anything as sophisticated as "workflows"

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 10:06 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com

I would go even further than Neil and say that, UNLESS a college uses the most recent version of software, your tuition fees would be better spent on buying the software for yourself —plus a selection of the best books on the subject and/or membership at Lynda.com.

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TOPIC: CS4 layer masks driving me nuts!
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c042de49966c7f2c?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Mar 3 2009 9:30 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Well described Chris. There used to be a shortcut for selecting the mask which I think was command \ - but for some in CS4 this doesn't seem to work anymore.

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