Thursday, February 19, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 26 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Text quality in Photoshop - 7 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/275baf22572bf9d8?hl=en
* Any way to disable the Rotate View feature in CS4? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/b4ae10fb7371dbff?hl=en
* extruded text - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e47574de5085ce5c?hl=en
* 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III - 4 messages,
4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
* What is the latest version of photoshop that can run on 10.3.9? (panther) -
5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/45c2c719875aafda?hl=en
* photoshop image to Indesign w/out white background - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0f5a50a399df661a?hl=en
* Recommend good filters / Plug-ins? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d86453b105bd22c7?hl=en
* Must Have Books/Videos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/387775b629cc0f0e?hl=en
* CS4 Bridge and Photoshop crash when closing - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/85d2d4bd500d42c2?hl=en

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TOPIC: Text quality in Photoshop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/275baf22572bf9d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 8:53 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


The printer has confirmed that they can accept pdfs but these will be
converted to Jpeg prior to printing so the final outcome will be the same.


Why?????

What on earth are they printing with?

Even an Inkjet can print directly from a PDF so that the Type is rasterized at the resolution of the output device on output (perhaps at 1400 dpi or greater).

Converting text to a 300 ppi JPEG before output is not only ridiculous but also shows total ineptitude by the print house operators.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:06 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


Rene,
I was just questioning why EPS was 'required' when PDF offers the same features of EPS and a few more.

TIFF and PSD will not include font data so the recipient will need the same font files installed.

Kate,
Printers that exclusively use JPG files fall under the cafepress.com realm for specialty/novelty printing. They can get away with this on mugs and t-shirts. For a leaflet, you'd want a better quality printer. If you are limited to that printer, see if they can support 600 or 1200 ppi in the JPG file. 300 ppi is just too messy for general type. You might get away with a decent print at 300 ppi if the type is over 36 pt or so.

Something seems very odd with this particular printer. Does this printer have a web site address you can share that might explain their capabilities or requirements for artwork?


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:15 am
From: kate_anderson@adobeforums.com


www.loxleycolour.co.uk

I'm always really pleased with the photographic print results but this is the first time I've used any text. The leaflets are also a new product they're offering and I wonder whether perhaps a new system for producing the leaflets is what is inhibiting them. Didn't realise text was such a minefield - how naive of me!!
The alternative solution they offer is to insert the text via their upload program, Loxley ROES, however they offer a limited choice of fonts and even less control over colour, size, positioning etc etc. Which is why I naturally went to Photoshop for the complete design.

Cheers


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:29 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


They may be a good Photographic Printer but I think that you need a different company for a brochure.

How many copies do you need to print?


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:42 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com


when PDF offers the same features of EPS and a few more.


Got you.

TIFF and PSD will not include font data so the recipient will need the
same font files installed.


Of course. But I thought that I had read somewhere that the type will be rasterized anyway in those TIFF and PSDs, when the type layers are left as type.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:26 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


We're trying to avoid rasterized type so TIFF and PSD would be no better than JPG in this situation. PDF (or EPS) will embed the vector font data so even if your printer does not have 'bizzarofont.otf' on their system, they will still be able to print the document as if they did have the font file.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:28 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com


TIFF and PSD would be no better than JPG


That's what I thought.

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TOPIC: Any way to disable the Rotate View feature in CS4?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/b4ae10fb7371dbff?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:08 am
From: Josh_D_Bennett@adobeforums.com


Well, it's kind of difficult to to discuss an often discussed point when
one poster has only read one thread.


Great. That helps a lot.

Thanks.

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TOPIC: extruded text
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e47574de5085ce5c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:27 am
From: jmpatrick@chasestudio.com@adobeforums.com


Greetings all-

I create a lot of text that gives the illusion of being extruded, with also has a soft shadow.

I do this by:

1. giving the text a color
2. duplicating the text
3. putting the duplicated text at a lower layer
4. changing the color darker
5. offsetting the duplicated text
6. creating a diamond the same color as the duplicated text, placing it in one of the voids created by the offset.
7. duplicating and placing as many times as necessary (keeping in a folder for organization)
8. applying a shadow to the top text layer

I have done this thousands of times over the years. There has got to be an easier and less tedious way!

Any suggestions???


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:37 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


No suggestions on the text, BUT!

I would STRONGLY recommend you go into your forum preferences (link near the top right of every page here) and change your username.

These forums get scraped and copied to any number of other sites on the web, and your address is just ripe for harvesting by email harvesting spiders. You can keep it in your profile, but you might even want to format it as: username [*at*] domain [*dot*] com or something similar.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem!

:)


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:40 am
From: Welles_Goodrich@adobeforums.com


Do you happen to run Windows on your Mac or have access to a Windows based computer? If so, the easiest way to do extruded text is Xara 3D 6. It is fast and easy to use. Xara products were one of the major reasons I started using a Windows vritual machine (VMWare's Fusion) on my Mac.

<http://site.xara.com/products/xara3d/>


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:20 am
From: jmpatrick-chasestudio@adobeforums.com


thank you


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:51 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


You can use Illustrators 3D effect as well.

And it is pretty easy to do.

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TOPIC: 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:31 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


We've run it on several of our machines (MacBooks, MacBook Alus, MacBook Pros and iMac 24") at work and none have had any problems. I've also run it on both my own machines and have no problems. If you have a stable system to begin with and no haxies or other "fun" things installed, and disconnect all external things when doing the installation, there should be nothing to worry about. Normal caution with other words. In my experience, when people get problems with security updates, it usually is something very particular in the users own system ti begin with that causes it.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:44 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com


when people get problems with security updates, it usually is something
very particular in the users own system ti begin with that causes it.


Or when you have that StuffitAVR thing turned on. (sorry, couldn't resist)


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:20 am
From: Cindy@adobeforums.com


I finally got brave and installed it. Everything OK.

Do you guys install the Java updates? Any problems with that?


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:51 am
From: Buko


Do you guys install the Java updates? Any problems with that?


yes and No.

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TOPIC: What is the latest version of photoshop that can run on 10.3.9? (
panther)
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/45c2c719875aafda?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:36 am
From: Jon_r._Rawlings@adobeforums.com


What is the latest version of photoshop I can run on 10.3.9? (Panther)


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:40 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


What are your hardware specs?

Model/processor/exact model of video card/RAM + Maximum RAM/Hard drive(s) + storage:space used:space free, etc.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:05 am
From: Buko


What is the latest version of photoshop I can run on 10.3.9? (Panther)


CS2

CS3 needs a minimum of 10.4.8 (but 10.4.11 is recommended) or greater.

CS4 needs 10.4.11 or greater.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:11 am
From: Jim_Jordan@adobeforums.com


CS2

EDIT: What Buko said. How did I miss his post?


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:18 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


Never hurts to get visitors into the habit of providing more info, as opposed to not enough.

:)

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TOPIC: photoshop image to Indesign w/out white background
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/0f5a50a399df661a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 9:47 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


If the background is white you do not need to "peel it off" for placement in InDesign. Just save it as a .psd image and place that. InDesign can handle transparency and create transparent backgrounds all by itself from placed .psd images.

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TOPIC: Recommend good filters / Plug-ins?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d86453b105bd22c7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:25 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com


<http://www.andromeda.com/main/index.php>

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TOPIC: Must Have Books/Videos
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/387775b629cc0f0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:31 am
From: Mike_Ornellas@adobeforums.com


Someday maybe someone will write about the actual world instead of this real world theory from all these posturing authors, but that would just be to honest of a challenge.

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TOPIC: CS4 Bridge and Photoshop crash when closing
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/85d2d4bd500d42c2?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 19 2009 10:49 am
From: MacWright@adobeforums.com


I just noticed that when PS crashes the crash report is sent to Apple?

does Adobe ever see these reports?


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