Tuesday, February 3, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* iMac runs slowly in Photoshop - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
* CS3 memory allocation question - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a43360b2fb158240?hl=en
* Adobe CS3 updater - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e05df8678a537399?hl=en
* Seamless Tile with text for web background - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4c49eeea4c7bd2c5?hl=en
* "Mounted Image" look for virtual wall-Urgent- - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/888a9bf4d1e8244e?hl=en
* Dear Adobe, seriously: please release me from PAR distortion! - 3 messages,
3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/9e27951e0f9d1fdc?hl=en
* View Thumbnails After 'File>Place' - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6ea9cacbe602102e?hl=en
* Photoshop CS4 Freezes when opening PDFs - 7 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/17549f4884f99efd?hl=en
* shortcut keyboard command for "consolidate all" - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/bf5a2a9f1bdc1342?hl=en
* Anyone else having a Problem with Leopard and Photoshop CS3? - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2448effaa20ec500?hl=en

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TOPIC: iMac runs slowly in Photoshop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 11:59 pm
From: Gary_Politzer@adobeforums.com


Every time you click your mouse, you are counting on a lot of stuff to automatically happen. Do you want to go back to the command line? Sheesh. You guys sound spooked about Leopard. With 8 cores and 10 GB RAM, I'm not worried about a couple of extra processes.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:37 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Gary,

Do you want to go back to the command line? Sheesh. You guys sound spooked
about Leopard.


I'd say, perhaps less a fear of Leopard than contempt for a specific Leopard process.

Neil

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TOPIC: CS3 memory allocation question
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a43360b2fb158240?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 2:27 am
From: "John Joslin"


Adobe will use the opportunity to put some new gift wrapping on the CS4.


Converting Photoshop to a 64-bit version can hardly be called "gift wrapping"! It's a bit more involved than putting it in a new box. B)


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:25 am
From: MacWright@adobeforums.com


It's a bit more involved than putting it in a new box.


agreed, but an 18-24 month product lifecycle offers some headroom for re-development, especially since Adobe has been aware of the Cocoa situation for almost 1 year already. I'm no software engineer but it seems that the timeline is doable before the next CS release, since there is a potential total 2.5-3 years between the Cocoa announcement and CS5.

In conjunction with the 64bit question, John Nack has already mentioned transitional PS products that Adobe has released in the past such as 2.5 when there was a 68>PPC upgrade, or the upgrade for G5 when that evolved. He hasn't committed to any timeline or any specific CS for a 64bit version, except that it's been pursued since the Carbon>Cocoa announcement.

.... it was just a thought, and there are both product, marketing and external issues that might keep it on the table for discussion.

regards.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:43 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


MacWright,

It involves pretty much a complete rebuilding of the application, not just swapping out some processing module, so a mid-cycle release may not be practical.

Neil


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:09 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


My guess is that despite the praises from a few fangirls like Ann (who are countered by silly issues like lost Contact Sheet functionality), the overpriced upgrade cost CS3-->CS4 has significantly limited upgrade sales. It is the first upgrade that I did not immediately purchase - - and that was before the recession was in full swing.

Product test cycles cost money. In a recession/depression tightening the upgrade cycle to achieve an x.5 release would not make a lot of sense unless it was used as an opportunity to lower price.

Only a very significant price cut will sell CS4 upgrades at this point. After all, CS3 is a very good app, and trying to drive upgrade sales by limiting things like ACR upgrades to CS4 just drives folks like me further into Aperture, C1, NX2, etc. workflows.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:24 am
From: MacWright@adobeforums.com


It involves pretty much a complete rebuilding of the application, not
just swapping out some processing module, so a mid-cycle release may not
be practical.


CS5 will be a feature bump to the new CS4 interface... add-ons. So a mid cycle upgrade would allow Adobe to push towards the later portion of the CS cycle to release CS5 and extend the sales of CS4.5 (which becomes the current product, not an upgrade from CS4 but from CS3)

Only a very significant price cut will sell CS4 upgrades at this point.


that may be the point, if CS4 isn't selling with the exception of new boxes/seats, then CS4.5 becomes an economical way (for Adobe) of extending the time between CS4 and CS5, and... gives a reason to make a first purchase into the CS4/4.5 suite.

If CS4 was a 64bit app, whether it was a substantial speed increase or not I would guess that more upgrades would be sold, and more MacPro's etc. So there is reason from both Adobe and Apple to make it happen.

just drives folks like me further into Aperture, C1, NX2, etc. workflows.


lack of real competition always creates havoc with the marketplace.

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TOPIC: Adobe CS3 updater
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e05df8678a537399?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:56 am
From: Chuck_Goldstein@adobeforums.com


Thanks Dan. I tried your recommendation without luck ... still get same results.

Ramón, if my system is corrupted, what do I do now?

Chuck

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TOPIC: Seamless Tile with text for web background
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4c49eeea4c7bd2c5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:16 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


Hmmm...I came here to float this from the 2nd page to the first so the O.P. can find it a little easier, and at this time I'm not seeing the image I've inserted (it's hosted on my Comcast space).

And looking at the source code brings up a peeve of mine about these forums, that is: Why does the WebX software pare the tilde character as "%7e"? I've run into situations about a year ago where that caused some massive problems...

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TOPIC: "Mounted Image" look for virtual wall-Urgent-
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/888a9bf4d1e8244e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:38 am
From: Jazzy_Sam@adobeforums.com


Well am trying a bit of everything
but frankly it´s not simple wish it could be some action or plug in (free)... Waiting for more suggestions ;)

Does anyone knows how to cut my image into equal pieces (divide he image/canvas) apart from cutting it "manually" and importing each piece as a different layer?

Thanks again

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TOPIC: Dear Adobe, seriously: please release me from PAR distortion!
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/9e27951e0f9d1fdc?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:03 am
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com


PS: just for clarification - if you work in a PAL environment with, lets
say, 720x576 restricted to 5:4, or Anamorphic there is NO WAY for square
pixels which would mean 768x576 or 1024x576.


<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1Ll4PpRHmYkXHHMv3VyGxDANqtX1>


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:05 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


I've figured all along this was a PEBKAC issue.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:25 am
From: Thomas_Craul@adobeforums.com


hmmhh, think you're funny

eat this

<http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9964/parmashupev8.png>

if you guys are better in creatig illustration and stunning graphic stills so please stick in your area rather than hanging around with the video guy, but, hey probably you could learn somethig because there's always troubles whenever i get grapgics for video from so so designers.

adios

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TOPIC: View Thumbnails After 'File>Place'
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6ea9cacbe602102e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:50 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


You can only get icons but you can adjust them to be 128 x 128 pixels . If you click on the icon preview button and hold it you will see a pop up giving you the option to select icon sizes


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:25 am
From: Charles_Boehm@adobeforums.com


Wade,

It sounds like you are referring to Finder icons (Finder Cmd+j). This does not change any jpg icon in the list of image file names when using the Place command. I do not see a Preview button anywhere in the dialog box presented when using the Place command. From what I've been reading it seems only PS for windoz will give an option button to view multiple files as jpgs. Too bad for the Mac; as I read it.

Thanks for your response.
Charles

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 Freezes when opening PDFs
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/17549f4884f99efd?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:59 am
From: billy_mitchell_nyc@adobeforums.com


I appreciate everyone's input & time -- but I am wondering if any of you have tried replicating the process? I know my dedicated RAM & scratch is apparently insufficient (although I successfully open very large, multi-layer PS files without incident) .. What would really help me out is if any of you try it and succeed, or if you try it and crash like we're all doing.

If it crashes those of you with significantly more operating power, then I would consider it a fairly obvious bug.

Please let me know if you try it.

In the meantime, I will increase my RAM & scratch space to see if it makes a difference.

Also, thanks to those who explained the need for this step as part of a workflow .. although I think that got all of us sidetracked, my department sends out links for client approval all day, and InDesign's direct-export jpegs are not always rasterized smoothly on complicated files, so we export PDFs and open them to save for web.

All day.

So this is really something I need to solve.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:21 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


billy,

I just simultaneously opened two multi-page PDFs (each PDF page was product packaging art containing text plus vector and pixel-based graphics) in Photoshop CS4. All I had to do was choose which page I wanted opened for each file. It was quick and painless.

This was on a G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with just 4 GB RAM and about 80 GB scratch disk space, running Mac OS 10.4.11.

Neil


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:22 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


billy,

I just simultaneously opened two multi-page PDFs (each PDF page was product packaging art containing text plus vector and pixel-based graphics) in Photoshop CS4. All I had to do was choose which page I wanted opened for each file. It was quick and painless.

This was on a G5 Dual 1.8 GHz with just 4 GB RAM and about 120 GB scratch disk space, running Mac OS 10.4.11.

Neil


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:26 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


my department sends out links for client approval all day, and InDesign's
direct-export jpegs are not always rasterized smoothly on complicated
files, so we export PDFs and open them to save for web.


Not that it addresses the problem, but I don't understand why these PDFs have to be opened in Photoshop. Why can't the PDFs simply be available on line as PDFs?

Neil


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:49 am
From: billy_mitchell_nyc@adobeforums.com


Thanks for the report, Neil!

To answer your question, we send links to our clients because we (unfortunately) have to cater to the lowest common denominator. Some of our approvals come from clients checking links on their Blackberries or iPhones, and there are also some who seem never to be able to open or view PDFs (despite no one else having any trouble!).

Unfortunately, I have increased my scratch space (to nearly 300GB) and I am still having the freeze problem. This time more than one page of the first PDF opened, but I was unable to select any tab other than the frontmost, and the second PDF never opened at all. And I'm testing it with the simplest possible PDFs (simple text, 20-40k, 2 pages).

I see that you're on a G5, and I have an Intel. Also, you are on OS X 10.4.11, and I am on 10.5.6, so possibly it's a hardware or OS issue.

Insert head-scratching sound here.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:07 am
From: Paul_R@adobeforums.com


You could try my PDF Processor and see if that helps..
<http://www.ps-scripts.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1882>


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:51 am
From: Buko


Does CS4 crash in a new user?

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TOPIC: shortcut keyboard command for "consolidate all"
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/bf5a2a9f1bdc1342?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:15 am
From: marcyankus@adobeforums.com


That's not what I'm trying to do. My images are in tabs already. There is a square icon in the bar just below the menu bar. It has a rectangle and two squares in the icon. If you click on this square icon, the first icon that is displayed, which is a single grey square, will added gray around your tabs images and you will not be able to see any other application behind it.

This is similar to selecting "Application frame" which is also under Window but slightly different.

I never used Application Frame before so I guess that might be my solution since you can create a keyboard shortcut for that.

Marc


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:41 am
From: Omke_Oudeman@adobeforums.com


That is what the Application frame is made for. You can drag it al over your screen, snap it between the panels and you end up with one big window with tools, panel, application bar and you can also choose a custom background color for the application frame. click on the frame background and with right click you can customize it to your wishes. Save it as a workspace and you will soon get used to it :-)

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TOPIC: Anyone else having a Problem with Leopard and Photoshop CS3?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2448effaa20ec500?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:36 am
From: Vincent_Alessi@adobeforums.com


I'm using CS3 with Leopard 10.5.4 at work and there are some very aggravating anomalies, that I'd like to nail down to a cause. Most frequently, when switching from apps to P'Shop, the menu bar stays for the previous app, i.e. when going from Finder to P'shop, the menu bar still says Finder and has Finder options. Changing from Lightwave to P'Shop, the menu bar remains Lightwave.

Occasionally, an Adobe app - P'Shop or InDesign - will simply disappear and not come back. The icon in the dock shows it as active, but no amount of clicking, Command-Tabbing will reveal the app and I have to Force Quit, losing unsaved changes.

I have a feeling it's Leopard, since, I've used CS3 on Tiger and CS4 on Tiger and never had a problem.

I'm wondering if upgrading to the latest Leopard would make much of a difference.
Has anyone come across this and found any kind of answers?

Thanks for any suggestions.
-Vincent


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