Sunday, February 1, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Rotoscoping With Photoshop CS3 - 3 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/44132cbf76e61542?hl=en
* iMac runs slowly in Photoshop - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
* "Open With" menu all messed up after CS4 install. - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/aa7bf026cfc7005c?hl=en
* Double images in photo kiosks - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/16a4cdac7b230771?hl=en
* Visited Links in this forum don't stand out enough. - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fc6d4307772c53c0?hl=en
* Pixelated pixels - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/291dafeae52ccbf6?hl=en
* Pixelated Thumbnails - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/681829cae149129c?hl=en
* 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
* Ruler Tool Disappears when starting another Tool - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/53ce05a570438d10?hl=en
* Changing Action Scripts outside of Photoshop CS3 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48dddfd163bd70df?hl=en

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TOPIC: Rotoscoping With Photoshop CS3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/44132cbf76e61542?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 11:24 pm
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


That is a the same thing as a new layer with all the frames, if you want to do a frame by frame then you have to convert it to a frame by frame sequence also from the time line fly out.

If you want to create shapes or text the will over print the video then you place in it on the layer you created and any changes you make you have to use the keyframes to do that.

Expand the layer and you will the position, opacity and scale keyframe controls.

Draw a shape, click on the clock next to position, now move the timeline position indicator to another position say to one second. now move the object, a new keyframe appears in the timeline align in the position keyframes.

Pull the the indicator back to the 0 position see the object moved back to where it was.

It has all the frames it is up t you to d with it what you can.

If you need to more, like change colors then it is better to do this with After Effects or Premiere, After Effects would be better and has a lot of plug ins albeit expensive.

If you really need further information I will do a brief video. Bt there should be one already on the Adobe in the tutorials do a search photoshop animation tutorials.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 6:36 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Here is a video to show you that it is not one frame but all the frames and if you want to trace the dancer it will be very difficult to do this frame by frame and you will have to do quite few tricks. You can do it for a few frames and you might find it tough.

You will have to red about rotoscoping and how to do it in Photoshop it is not the right place t do it in my opinion but there may be a technique I am not ware of that makes it less painful as they say you can use it for rotoscoping so do a search.

Here is the video:

<http://mysite.verizon.net/wzphoto/VideoLayer/VideoLayer.mov>


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 8:11 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Here is a link to a page about with a downloadable tutorial from Adobe about adding video layers.

<http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/exchange/index.cfm?searchfield=Animation+Tutorials&search_exchange=16&search_category=-1&search_license=&search_rating=&search_platform=0&search_pubdate=&Submit=Search&num=10&startnum=1&event=search&sort=0>

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TOPIC: iMac runs slowly in Photoshop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/78f84c21f1212ce5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:14 am
From: Buko


Leopard in and of itself is OK as an OS. It has some nice bells and whistles, but it has taken Apple 6 updates to provide a stable environment to run our favorite Adobe apps. Even now people are having trouble installing Adobe software in Leopard.

So I'm willing to agree that Leopard is the worst OS so far. That's not saying 10.5.6 isn't so bad. Its just not all that great and the lack of stability is with InDesign is stopping me plus the fact that Epson is not updating the 2200 drivers.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:15 am
From: Buko


And yes I have Leopard.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:26 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Leopard is NOT that bad and the instabilities described are grossly exaggerated. Most users do not have problems. In here you only hear those who do have problems (like at MaxFixIt as well). Remember that. The ones without problems are usually silent.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:07 am
From: PShock@adobeforums.com


That is a flat out lie, Phil Shock.


Right ... I'm actually lying about your Leopard experience because that would benefit me in so many ways ... 8/

Whatever, Castaneda. You've never mentioned using it that I recall and I'm fairly certain you haven't bought it - you're obviously not running it on your ancient G4. Maybe cursory glances with your wife's Macbook? (which you also hate as I recall) .... feel free to enlighten me about your vast Leopard experience. What specifically don't you like about it?

Leopard is arguably and easily the worst OS ever released by Apple.


No. It's not.

Buko-

...the lack of stability is with InDesign is stopping me plus the fact
that Epson is not updating the 2200 drivers.


I can't speak for stability with InDesign because I don't use it much but everything else I use is (and has been) rock solid. And the NON-updated Epson 2200 driver works just fine with Leopard - as well as it did in 10.4 anyway.

I totally agree that there's no highly compelling reason to upgrade to Leopard, but the little things do add up. I love the ability to view content in the Finder - movies, images, PDFs, etc., without the need to open an app. Spotlight works fantastically - huge improvement over the version in 10.4. Networking has been much improved, Mail is much better, and on and on .... as I said, there's no killer feature but the combined overall improvements make the upgrade worthwhile.

FWIW - I use both 10.4 and 10.5 on a daily basis - 10.4 on a G5 Quad at work, and 10.5 on my Mac Pro at home. I prefer 10.5.

Ann-

Just a sample of Leopard's history if you haven't been following it:


C'mon, that proves nothing. You could find similar threads about every OS released in addition to every version of Photoshop released. There will always be problems that may or may not be related to the software - and people will post about them.

The only real issue I recall with PSCS3/10.5 was the text input glitch that was rectified with 10.5.2. I've been using 10.5 full-time since then and haven't suffered ANY of the "trauma" you mentioned.

... so Apple is apparently abandoning it and bringing us a whitewashed
version which is to be called Snow Leopard.


Sigh ... if only other developers would follow suit. Imagine if Adobe would concentrate on actual performance improvements, rather than worthless bells and whistles (adjustment layer panel, anyone?), that cater to the newbie because the bean counters know new features and dumbing down the app will move more product.

Only Apple has the guts to pull this off and I say good for them.

-phil

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TOPIC: "Open With" menu all messed up after CS4 install.
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/aa7bf026cfc7005c?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:19 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Well, I certainly didn't apply any strings or haxies whichever they might have been. and then forgot about them, no, no such thing. On principle I don't mess with either the system or the applications.

I am on an Intel iMac with 10.4.6 at home, åainfully little rAM, but that works anyways, have an Intel MacBook alu for work (previously not so long ago a black Intel Mac Book), with max RAM possible.

Our users (Scandinavia's largest daily newspaper) have either Intel MacBooks or MacBook Pros with either Leopard or Tiger, our editors have G5s with Tiger (and since last week some of them now run Intel iMacs with Leopard).

I have personally never seen the problem described or got any reports of it either (we have several hundred of users). Our users do not yet run cs4, but all our editors do their own image-works and use Photoshop daily, CS2 or CS3. Our photographers run Cs3 on Intel MBs or MBPs in either Tiger or Leopard.

When I installed PSCS4 (premium design suite) I had both CS2 and CS3 already on my personal machines. Since I've gotten rid of CS2. My personal machines have on their main systems never seen any betas, personal or other, or run any trial versions (anything like that has been run isolated in other systems). I've run Leopard since the day it was released and all updates released afterwards. I never run DiskWarrior (don't own it), but I have meticulous control over my fonts (nowadays not using any font managers; FontBook is there obviously but I only use that for info about fonts not for activating), but used to use Suitcase for years previously, without any problems.

And I have never seen the problem described. Not in CS4 and not in previous versions. So I think something else, whatever it might be, might be influencing on it and causing it. Fonts? Non-compatible plug-ins? System-haxies? Not saving files locally but over the network? Not having the correct settings for saving the file? Hard to say. File being messed with between different versions of the applications and different applications? Could be anything.

What would be nice to have would be a file-history function like the one in InDesign where you can see what versions and stages the file has passed through and where it originated version-wise. But PS doesn't have that.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:23 am
From: Buko


Well I running Tiger 10.4.11 and I see it with CS2, CS3 and CS4

but for me its such a Non issue.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 1:46 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


It WAS an issue for me.

I figured out how to fix it and published the instructions.

The fix has done nothing to compromise my system's functioning.

NEXT!


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 4:49 am
From: "John Joslin"


As a fervent non-user of Bridge since the day it came out, I looked at the introductory videos on Bridge CS4 and thought it looked and performed better.

I decided to give it a try and am now a fervent user.

Sometimes it is better to change a well-used and familiar workflow for another when the technological advances warrant it.

(I'm posting this because an awful lot of people, who used to scorn Bridge with good reason, don't know what they are now missing.)


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 8:01 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Exactly, John.

And if you use more of the other CS4 applications than Photoshop, you are hobbling yourself if you don't learn to use Bridge.

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TOPIC: Double images in photo kiosks
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/16a4cdac7b230771?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 12:57 am
From: "Guy Burns"


When I take my USB stick to a photo kiosk (Kodak, Fuji) and try and select the images I want, everytime I am presented with two of every image. Let us assume I only have one image on the stick called ZZZZ. I will be presented with two images in the photo kiosk: ZZZZ and _ZZZZ, the latter, if I accidentally select it for printing, will print very badly with extreme pixellation, almost as if the preview image is being used.

I can handle the workaround myself, but other people come to me for burning images to CD, and sometimes they come back and say the images printed badly. i.e they selected the wrong image in the photo kiosk. I'm giving myself a bad name!

My question is: why do I get two images coming up, and is it possible, by changing some preference or setting within PS, to get rid of the problem image?


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 2:03 am
From: T._Schmidt@adobeforums.com


Is it a Mac-to-PC problem? For me the PC always shows a ".file.jpg" for every "file.jpg". But that's not the previews and can't be printed. How large are these _files?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 6:52 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Guy,

My question is: why do I get two images coming up, and is it possible,
by changing some preference or setting within PS, to get rid of the problem
image?


This sounds like it may be an OS interface issue, not a Photoshop issue. That doesn't make it any less a real problem. But I don't see any Photoshop setting that would stop the duplication.

How are the USB memory and CDs formated? Maybe there's a clue there.

Neil

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TOPIC: Visited Links in this forum don't stand out enough.
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fc6d4307772c53c0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 1:36 am
From: Rothrock@adobeforums.com


This is such my complaint about this forum as well. It is the same on Mac OS 10.5.6 with Safari 3.2.1 and on my work machine which is XP and IE 6.

There also needs to be a few more pixels between each line. I often have to use the find function because I can't visually find topics that I know should be there.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 1:40 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


• Change the link and visited link colors in your browser prefs.
• Get new glasses
• Write your own CSS to add to the line-height property.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:06 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Folks,

As Phos suggests, try changing your browser settings and see if that helps.

That said, this is NOT the forum for this topic and your concerns will be lost buried in here. Please post it in Forum comments which is specifically for Forums issues.

Thanks.

Neil

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TOPIC: Pixelated pixels
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/291dafeae52ccbf6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 4:11 am
From: Keith_Heatherley@adobeforums.com


Hello,
I'm using Photoshop 6 on a desktop iMac G3 OS 10.3.9
For some reason the thumbnails of all pictures
worked on and saved in photoshop are pixelated (well -
just plain degraded, really) compared to the normally
acceptable thumbnail that represents the original
picture-file. (I didn't have this problem when I was
using the same photoshop 6 on an earlier desktop with
OS 8.6 all those years ago). The problem's the same
whether saving in jpg psd or tif.
And I can't see anything in the 'Preferences' 'Saving
Files' that would address the problem.

Editing and saving in iPhoto or any other application
produces perfectly fine thumbnails.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Keith

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TOPIC: Pixelated Thumbnails
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/681829cae149129c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 4:17 am
From: Keith_Heatherley@adobeforums.com


Hello,
I'm using Photoshop 6 on a desktop iMac G3 OS 10.3.9
For some reason the thumbnails of all pictures
worked on and saved in photoshop are pixelated (well -
just plain degraded, really) compared to the normally
acceptable thumbnail that represents the original
picture file. (I didn't have this problem when I was
using the same photoshop 6 on an earlier desktop with
OS 8.6 some years ago). The problem's the same whether
saving as jpg psd or tif files.

Editing and saving in iPhoto or any other application
produces perfectly fine thumbnails.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Keith


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:31 am
From: Neil_Keller@adobeforums.com


Keith,

As you're probably aware, PS6 is an ancient (8-year-old) version of Photoshop, combined with an old operating system. So help for this, as can be best remembered, may be rather sparse now.

I didn't have this problem when I was using the same photoshop 6 on an
earlier desktop with OS 8.6 some years ago


One thing to remember is that PS6 was released before and never designed for use under a later, radically different OS, like Mac OS 10.3.9, and there may not be a solution.

About the only thing I can suggest for your existing setup is that if you haven't updated to PS 6.0.1, you should do that. You can still download that update at: <http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1122>

Maybe someone else has an idea.

But, is there a reason (other than possibly monetary) that you have kept this old setup, and have not updated hardware, software and software? My concern is that support is only going to get more difficult for you with every passing day.

Neil

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TOPIC: 2009 Macs and Peripherals :: General Discussion :: Chapter III
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/c2f0ebcc850b85d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 6:52 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com


Thank you Ann. I'm working on it now.

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TOPIC: Ruler Tool Disappears when starting another Tool
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/53ce05a570438d10?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 6:56 am
From: Don_Plattner@adobeforums.com


Is there a way to have the ruler tool remain visible once it has been created and you proceed to use another tool, e.g. I would like to use the ruler to tool as a guide to place lines, but when I select the brush tool to draw the line, the ruler "line" becomes invisible. Any ideas?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:09 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


I assume you're talking about the Measure Tool (grouped in the Toolbox with the Eyedropper and Color Sampler Tools).

What you hope for can't be done.

One workaround would be to pull out guidelines that intersect at both ends of the measurement you've made.

This points to another good reason the Guidelines functions could use a some enhancements.

<http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1exwETuWfpywn5iqE1N0dGwXrWMwpk>

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TOPIC: Changing Action Scripts outside of Photoshop CS3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48dddfd163bd70df?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:31 am
From: PictureDude@adobeforums.com


Paul,

I still would like to know how you do this scripting? Using what and how. I did download the toolbox you suggested...

Thanks,


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