Sunday, March 15, 2009

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Today's topics:

* Where is Contact Sheet II in CS4? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a53097bb62e288c6?hl=en
* MacBook Pro 2.2 and PS CS4, could someone please confirm for me . . . - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d6a87c743e0e7f7b?hl=en
* Printing too dark in CS4 - 6 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en
* Crash Report Ps 11.0.1 - 10.5.6 - 8-Core Intel - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/efa1b6ab65b074dc?hl=en
* Curves adjustmentlayer in cs4, are there any way to get it to work like in
cs3? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/68839d735a863e44?hl=en
* Quitting PS triggers crash report - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2e5318406390495d?hl=en
* Default Printer Problem - Epson 9800 and 9900 - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/decfdcaa4de698ec?hl=en
* CS 4 Photomerge=vertical when it's a horizontal Panorama? - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7e421712cfe85a79?hl=en
* New Mac Pros, iMacs and Minis introduced - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/14ab36a13b239952?hl=en
* Ps4 Question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/ce07d87a76b1c777?hl=en
* CS 4 Question about opening multiple images - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6f39ddd5ab43a91e?hl=en
* Cannot enter a decimal cmyk value in photoshop? Is rounding it up acurate? -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e4fa73c2c7a09b43?hl=en
* Cloning layer on top of smart object - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/b4df30a04eb6e364?hl=en
* How do I embed fonts in PDF? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/82be64837759e7c9?hl=en
* Best Color Management Settings for Web in CS3 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/dc5f1f94f89dd3be?hl=en
* Anyone dare to try Safari 4 beta? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6d6f0365875b592d?hl=en

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TOPIC: Where is Contact Sheet II in CS4?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/a53097bb62e288c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:09 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Ann-

I am aware that one can still create Contact Sheets, which is why I referenced removing existing UI functionality rather than simply stating Contact Sheets were removed. Taking a simple step and making one learn a new way or go find out about a plugin is by definition a loss of existing UI functionality.

Such changes are negatives for some upgraders, and add to the high price as reasons to stick with CS3. Note that all the other new methods could have been added without removing the established method.

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TOPIC: MacBook Pro 2.2 and PS CS4, could someone please confirm for me . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d6a87c743e0e7f7b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:23 am
From: Sol_Sims@adobeforums.com


What I already suspect from searching around Adobe's support pages.
Seems my MacBook Pro 15" 2.2 ghz (just over a year old) is not fully compatible with CS4. It the whole open GL thing. I have the NVIDEA 8600M card which is compatible, but the VRAM is only 128. Adobe states they've test supported the 256mb version, and it works. My 128mb version is not working.
Now, I'm fairly disappointed in how Adobe has applied these many new features around this limitation. I was really looking forward to the much improved zoom abilities. In particular, keeping in mind that LR and iPhoto, Bridge all do actually render perfectly, regardless of the current zoom sizing. CS4 seems to be leaving me in the old world of Photoshop, zooming correctly only at 25,50 and 100%. Not to mention all the other Open GL laced features. Kind of sucks, got to tell ya.
Does anyone know if there is a work around on this?
Needless to say, not many local computer shops are willing to upgrade the motherboard-located video card on my MBP. :(

-Sol

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TOPIC: Printing too dark in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/48bd115c19dcc5b3?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:27 am
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


> what am I doing


aren't you running a Power PC G5 and 10.4 -- maybe that's the difference


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:48 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com


Of course!

:)


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:42 pm
From: aviduser@adobeforums.com


This issue has been driving me crazy. Thanks to all that posted. I am using the following:

Mac OS 10.5.6
MacPro
Spyder color calibrated cinema monitor
Epson Stylus Pro 3800
Epson Enhanced Matte paper (for B&W)

I also have LR 2 and PS CS4 installed.

For the life of me I could not get my B&W prints to come out right in CS 4 or LR 2. After reading here, I selected "Edit in Photoshop CS3" from Lightroom's library. I printed as usual from CS3 (PS manages colors, using SPro 38 EMP profile). Perfect results.

Too bad I burned so much paper & ink, not to mention hair (!) trying to get to this point. I hope someone releases an update to fix this issue with CS4 soon.

cheers,

aviduser


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:52 pm
From: Ray1292@adobeforums.com


This whole process is logical nonsense to me, sorry. On a color printing head in the darkroom you had three color corrections, plus you had a timer for exposure time, and an f/stop on the lens.

There is such an endless clutter of obstructions in digital printing. Sure, if you find the right combination great. But look at the misery that smart engineering could eliminate. So where is the smart engineering?


== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:58 pm
From: Richard_Sjolund@adobeforums.com


My problem was that the 9800 was not designated as the DEFAULT printer (the 9900 is).

When the 9800 is not the Default printer - it ignores the profile - and make huge blocked-up black areas.

When I made the 9800 the DEFAULT printer - it made a perfect print.

See my new post here:

Default Printer Problem - Epson 9800 and 9900

<http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b837a5>


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:42 pm
From: pfigen


This is interesting. I'll test this tomorrow when I get to the studio. I'll print out a profile target from CS3, which works fine in Leopard with the 9900 as the default printer, measure that the compare it to a CS4 version of the same target printed with the 9800 as the default printer.

I'm thinking that this can't be enough to "fix" this problem, but measuring two targets and comparing them in ProfileMaker's Measure Tool will tell just how different the two options really are, within the tolerance of the Spectrolino.

If, in fact they produce statistically similar results, that will be more information for my contacts at Epson, who are already aware that there is a problem of sorts.

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TOPIC: Crash Report Ps 11.0.1 - 10.5.6 - 8-Core Intel
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/efa1b6ab65b074dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:34 am
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


Helvetica Rounded does not seen to be the problem, Ps CS4 is crashing on files with no font layers ———— I sent in about six crash reports since my last series ———— CS3 is not crashing here even on the huge files with Helvetica Rounded type layers...

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TOPIC: Curves adjustmentlayer in cs4, are there any way to get it to work like
in cs3?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/68839d735a863e44?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 11:40 am
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


I went back to a long session in Ps CS3 trying to get some work done ———— it was a real pleasure to use the CS3 Adjustment Layer interface...


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:34 pm
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


Yeah in that respect its a relief to be back in CS3. If I've got a job which is mainly color correction, I will choose CS3 over CS4 because the interface in CS4 just doesn't cut it.

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TOPIC: Quitting PS triggers crash report
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/2e5318406390495d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:20 pm
From: William_L_Morgan@adobeforums.com


Every time I quit PhotoShop I get crash reporting dialog boxes from both Adobe and Apple. Even though I chose to QUIT, they report that PS quit unexpectedly. I have sent the reports to both Apple and Adobe but nothing ever changes. This has been happening with both CS2 and CS3 for over a year. It isn't debilitating, but slows me down and annoys me. Any suggestions?

I'm running an iMac, 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB Ram, an HP w2207h external monitor. OS 10.5.6.

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TOPIC: Default Printer Problem - Epson 9800 and 9900
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/decfdcaa4de698ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:46 pm
From: Richard_Sjolund@adobeforums.com


OK. I attended the Epson Academy meeting in Chicago yesterday - -and I learned several new things.

None of the Epson speakers, however, ever heard about an issue that is my problem:

Blacks are blocking up on my 9800 used with MK. I am printing on Somerset Velvet for Epson.

I am using an Intel MacPro with OS 10.5.6 - and Photoshop CS4. I have a new Epson 9900 on a USB line - and my old 9800 on a Firewire connection.

I posted earlier that my 9800 is now dedicated as an MK printer (I gave my 9600 to an art department).

My new 9900 is designated as the DEFAULT printer - on the MacPro with OS 10.5.6 - and Photoshop CS4.

When I send a print to the 9800 (not designated as the default printer) - it appears to ignore my profiles - and prints huge BLACK areas where there should be detail - and some grays.

I sent the same file to my 9900 - after switching it to MK from PK - and the print was perfect - matched my profiled monitor exactly - and was the same as a previous print done with MK on the 9600.

So - today I am back in the studio and doing some research - and some experiments (putting my science Ph.D to work).

At the suggestion of Epson's people yesterday, I reloaded the print driver (from Epson) for the 9800.

I then Used Print-Fax (on the Mac - system preferences) to delete the 9800 from my list - and then re-added it (it is on a firewire link).

I made another print - and (drum roll...) it is still filled with Blocked-Up Blacks.

And so, I did the test that I mentioned doing earlier here:

I went back to Print-Fax - and I designated the 9800 as the DEFAULT printer.

I then made another print and (more drum rolls.....) - the print is PERFECT - matches the print from my old 9600 and the new 9900 with MK.

So - the problem is that under OS 10.5.6 - and with an Intel MacPro - and with Photoshop CS4 - the 9800 MUST BE SELECTED AS THE DEFAULT PRINTER.

My next test is to send the same file to my 9900 - with MK - with the 9900 NOT designated as the default (leaving the 9800 in that role).

I want to be able to have both printers working (as in actually printing) at the same time so that I can keep up with Fine Art and canvas jobs.

Will I have to switch the Default-Designated Printer for each job ? What will happen if I de-select the 9800 while it is printing???

Stay tuned.

In my former life, as a professor, I could apply for federal grants to do my research. Maybe I should send a bill to someone for ink, paper, and time.

There is a problem here- but it could be Epson, Apple, or Adobe at this point.

Dick Sjolund

<http://www.wilderness-studio.com>


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:05 pm
From: Jeff_Schewe@adobeforums.com


None of the Epson speakers, however, ever heard about an issue that is
my problem:


You didn't ask me, did you?

There are indeed issues relating to how well multiple printers play on OS X. We have, for SEVERAL YEARS had one again/off gain issues relating to the "default" printer. It is most certainly an "Apple Issue" but can come and go depending on applications and print drivers.

What most people don't see, behind the scenes is that the print pipeline on OS X has had a MAJOR change of API's-most notably implemented in Leopard–that have print drivers and applications scrambling to get the correct behaviors and code for what, at Apple, has been a moving target...the single most screwed up aspect of the OS X print pipeline is actually ColorSync...it gets in the way and causes more problems than you can possibly image...seriously, it's a real pain in the arse!

As you've found out, when things don't work as expected, you gotta try different things and one of then is indeed specifying different printers as the main default. Sorry you didn't ask me that question...

:~)


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:29 pm
From: Richard_Sjolund@adobeforums.com


Jeff,

My sincere apologies -- I asked John Caponigro - who sent me over to Andrew - and we sat and talked right next to you ... maybe I needed a few minutes at the end of the meeting for more Qs. and As.

So - now that we know there really IS a problem -- how do we fix it???

What will happen if I am sending a job to the 9800 - with MK - designated as my default printer - and then, at the same time - send a job to the 9900 - but now select it as the default printer in the middle of the 9800's job?

Any chance that OS 10.5.7 will fix this - or do we wait and start-over with 10.6 (Snow Leopard)?

It was a great Epson session in Chicago - you were terrific - and I'm not at all surprised to learn that you knew the answer.

Dick

And - this just in ----

With the 9800 Epson designated as the DEFAULT printer, I sent a job to the 9900 (now no longer the default) - and (even more drum rolls....) the print is perfect.

So - it appears to be an EPSON - APPLE problem specific to the 9800 (in my case).

If you have more than one printer - test the problem by changing the DEFAULT status around in Print-Fax.

And - thanks, again, Jeff.

Dick Sjolund

<http://www.wilderness-studio.com>

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TOPIC: CS 4 Photomerge=vertical when it's a horizontal Panorama?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7e421712cfe85a79?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:48 pm
From: JCW@adobeforums.com


Just upgraded to CS 4 from CS 3 and I seem to be having a problem with the photomerge. i have shot a bunch of horizontal Panorama sequences using a pano head making sure the nodal point is correctly aligned etc. I have done quite a bit with CS 3 with no troubles.

Now with CS 4 I go from select the sequence in Bridge and under tools use Photomerge (auto) however instead of a horizontal panorama it aligning the layers in a weird vertical arrangement. Like I said I just upgraded to CS 4 and am wondering if i have something set screwy because this was never a problem with CS 3. Any insights or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Jeff

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TOPIC: New Mac Pros, iMacs and Minis introduced
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/14ab36a13b239952?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:59 pm
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


OMFG! When's the telethon.


Very funny.

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TOPIC: Ps4 Question
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/ce07d87a76b1c777?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:04 pm
From: Sam_A_Sharpe@adobeforums.com


I used to working in PhotoShop CS. I have just installed Ps4, and found that when I open multiple Images (like I do in CS) they do not "Stack" on top of each other. Is there a way to set Ps4 to accomplish this? This is critical to my work flow. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Sam Ss463@aol.com

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TOPIC: CS 4 Question about opening multiple images
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6f39ddd5ab43a91e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:05 pm
From: Sam_A_Sharpe@adobeforums.com


When I open multiple images in CS4, it does not "stack" the images like it did in CS. This stacking is critical to my workflow. Can I make CS4 do this, and how is it done? Thanks, Sam Ss463@aol.com

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TOPIC: Cannot enter a decimal cmyk value in photoshop? Is rounding it up
acurate?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/e4fa73c2c7a09b43?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:09 pm
From: Phil_Taz@adobeforums.com


In CS4, Illy will show decimals, Indesign and Photoshop will round up and not show the post-decimal values.

In Photoshop (CMYK mode), you can have more than one step within 1% (according to info panel) presumably 100% divided evenly into 255 steps and I can see 3 distinct levels between 0 and 1% dot (per channel).

These will often be a problem if you let them sneak in unexpectedly, so best to round off the .xx figures in Illustrator. I don't know why Illustrator has had this option, seems a bit pointless to me and introduces a significant risk for printers and designers for no real gain.

That's not to say there is no need for all 255 steps, I am not saying that, only that they are dangerous as 'selectable' values and should only be there for use in smooth blends and feathers etc.

I presume this is why Photoshop doesn't let you pick on a % slider, it would jump along unevenly 0 then .392 .784 etc whereas the rgb slider can happily count from 0 to 255. The available tones are based on each channel being 255 steps in 8 bit per channel files.

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TOPIC: Cloning layer on top of smart object
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/b4df30a04eb6e364?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:36 pm
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com


The opacity of your retouch layer has been altered. Either that or you have an active selection that you are not aware of. Still got problems? trash your preferences. Its got nothing to do with Smart Objects

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TOPIC: How do I embed fonts in PDF?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/82be64837759e7c9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:12 pm
From: GYG@adobeforums.com


I can't figure out why I just spent the last half hour trying to find an answer to a seemingly very simple question. I have a Photoshop document with a couple of lines of text. Rather than having to mess with InDesign, I would rather just save as a PDF directly from Photoshop, since this method suppose to preserve the vector (fonts). Only problem, is that I see no where in the settings, an option to embed fonts.

Tutorials online show an "embed font" checkbox, that is not available on my end. Could someone please explain to me how to do this. I keep reading conflicting options on what to do. Some people say it's ok to rasterize a Photoshop document with fonts, as long as the resolution is 600 or higher. Some say to use Indesign for the text. I understand the need for Indesign, but if I only have a couple of lines of text, and if Photoshop is capable of handling vector fonts (supposedly when saved as PDF, and fonts are embedded)..i see no reason to use InDesign. I just need to figure out how to embed fonts.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:31 pm
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


Merge all your pixel layers> File> Save As: Photoshop PDF

Open in Acrobat, Resave

Your fonts should have been preserved in the process (verify in Acrobat Command+D)

I like to select Type Layer> Layer> Type> Convert to Shape

That way the PDF doesn't have actual fonts to worry about

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TOPIC: Best Color Management Settings for Web in CS3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/dc5f1f94f89dd3be?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:16 pm
From: GYG@adobeforums.com


Anyone ever use one of those devices that read the screen when you hold it up to it? It suppose to be a better way of calibrating our monitor.

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TOPIC: Anyone dare to try Safari 4 beta?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/6d6f0365875b592d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:19 pm
From: Lundberg02@adobeforums.com


I'll zap my pram and see what happens.


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