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* Kill Deer Along The Shoreline With The D3x!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Field of view - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Rechargable batteries - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* What kind of hawk is this? - 8 messages, 7 authors
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* New photos,looking for imput - 1 messages, 1 author
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* ISO & exposure comp. -- aren't they redundant? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Taking The D3x Into The Valley Of Darkness To Tame The Beast!! - 2 messages,
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* New Mandate: Close Up, Due April 5th, 2009 - 1 messages, 1 author
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* paypal wholesale brand sport shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Wetbacks Love The D3x!! - 3 messages, 3 authors
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TOPIC: Kill Deer Along The Shoreline With The D3x!!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:00 pm
From: me@mine.net
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:50:18 -0500, in rec.photo.digital George Kerby
<ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>In my previous post on this, I think the first shot wasn't a "broken wing",
>but more like what I just read from your reference: "The Killdeer uses a
>quite different display, fluffing itself up, displaying its tail over its
>head, and running at the beast to attempt to make it change its path."
>
>She sure has her tail up, but looks like 'the beast' was too dumb to change
>paths...
Would tend to agree with you on this.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:15 pm
From: "Neil Harrington"
me@mine.net wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:54:21 -0400, in rec.photo.digital "Neil
> Harrington" <not@home.today> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank goodness for Google. I'd never heard of the killdeer before.
>
> If you have any interest at all in regard to birds you might wish to
> bookmark the Cornell Labs All About Birds web site.
>
> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/
Thanks, I will check that out.
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TOPIC: Field of view
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:04 pm
From: ASAAR
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:36:14 +0100, Alfred Molon wrote:
> Sorry, what exactly is the problem in using the simple formulas which
> David kindly posted?
Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
factors. David answered your request as I mentioned in my last
reply, telling you to "ignore" crop factors. Do you agree with his
position, that crop factors don't provide enough accuracy? If you
do, then it's good that you've finally learned that crop factors are
so inaccurate as to be nearly useless, and are to be ignored.
* Cilla Black, Dionne Warwick, Cher, et. al. offered clues.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 3:44 pm
From: Alfred Molon
In article <frmqr4tankc83kjk4hmrb1tqigfqto5n0i@4ax.com>, ASAAR says...
> Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
> asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
> factors.
I asked for a formula to calculate the FoV. That I mentioned crop
factors is irrelevant (just ignore that). But frankly I don't understand
what we are disagreeing about
--
Alfred Molon
------------------------
Olympus 50X0, 8080, E3X0, E4X0, E5X0, E620, E30, E3 forum at
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:07 pm
From: ASAAR
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:44:13 +0100, Alfred Molon whimsied:
>> Nothing at all. Much gets by you as usual, Alfie*. To recap, you
>> asked for a formula (yes, *you* asked, remember?) using crop
>> factors.
>
> I asked for a formula to calculate the FoV. That I mentioned crop
> factors is irrelevant (just ignore that). But frankly I don't understand
> what we are disagreeing about
Yes, that's very clear. In the future it might be useful to
provide clues as to which parts of your posts are irrelevant. For
all anyone knew, the "formula" that you requested might have been
the irrelevant word, when what you really wanted was a table of
values. Except for those living in some far off land, words and
their usages aren't as elastic as you seem to think.
> "Words mean exactly what I want them to mean,"
> the Red Queen informed Alice in Wonderland.
> "It's too late to correct it," said the Red Queen: "when you've once
> said a thing, that fixes it, and you must take the consequences."
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TOPIC: Rechargable batteries
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:10 pm
From: "Neil Harrington"
George Kerby wrote:
>>
>>
> Thanks for the information. I may be buying the BC-700 because of the
> reduced price that you mentioned.
You're welcome. I just ordered one last night.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:31 pm
From: @comcast.net (GMAN)
In article <47ydnUTmkvct_SDUnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@giganews.com>, "Neil Harrington"
<not@home.today> wrote:
>George Kerby wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks for the information. I may be buying the BC-700 because of the
>> reduced price that you mentioned.
>
>You're welcome. I just ordered one last night.
>
>
For a little more you should have got the better equipped BC900
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00077AA5Q/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk
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TOPIC: What kind of hawk is this?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:24 pm
From: JoelH
Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
Is it even a hawk?
Thanks.
-Joel
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:48 pm
From: "jaf"
Hi Joel,
Looks like a cooper's hawk.
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html
John
"JoelH" <JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message news:fc631b98-0d01-427a-8350-000ccb48819f@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Is it even a hawk?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Joel
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:51 pm
From: me@mine.net
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:24:03 -0700 (PDT), in rec.photo.digital JoelH
<JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote:
>Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
>Is it even a hawk?
I believe it to be a Cooper's Hawk:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 1:57 pm
From: Allen
jaf wrote:
> Hi Joel,
> Looks like a cooper's hawk.
> http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Coopers_Hawk_dtl.html
>
> John
>
>
> "JoelH" <JoelAtExcCom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fc631b98-0d01-427a-8350-000ccb48819f@v19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>>
>> Is it even a hawk?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Joel
Definitely does look like a Cooper's. As the Cooper's has such a wide
range it doesn't apply in this case, but generally when asking for an ID
of a bird it helps to give where/when info. Incidentally, in Austin TX
we have what seems like a very large number of both Cooper's and
Red-tails nowadays. It is unusual to drive along our urban expressways
without seeing several, hanging around waiting for lunch to venture out.
Allen
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:26 pm
From: JoelH
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Definitely does look like a Cooper's. As the Cooper's has such a wide
> range it doesn't apply in this case, but generally when asking for an ID
> of a bird it helps to give where/when info. Incidentally, in Austin TX
Last week in my backyard :-) That is, early March in Westchester
County, north of New York City.
I wonder why it's so fat. (It looks pregnant, which, of course, it's
not.)
-Joel
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:59 pm
From: Twibil
On Mar 15, 2:26 pm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Last week in my backyard :-) That is, early March in Westchester
> County, north of New York City.
>
> I wonder why it's so fat.
Probably because -like all birds- they fluff their feathers out in
cool weather to provide better insulation.
~Pete
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:03 pm
From: ransley
On Mar 15, 3:24 pm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>
> Is it even a hawk?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Joel
I say its a red tail, I have coopers and redtail out my window and in
my yard trying to catch all the squirrels I fed all winter. The
Coopers are all grey and lighter and that one looks big, like a
redtail.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:42 pm
From: Savageduck
On 2009-03-15 16:03:01 -0700, ransley <Mark_Ransley@Yahoo.com> said:
> On Mar 15, 3:24Êpm, JoelH <JoelAtExc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can someone tell me what kind of hawk this is:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/joelmhoffman/3349387656/
>>
>> Is it even a hawk?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -Joel
> I say its a red tail, I have coopers and redtail out my window and in
> my yard trying to catch all the squirrels I fed all winter. The
> Coopers are all grey and lighter and that one looks big, like a
> redtail.
That is a Cooper's Hawk, the 3 tail chevrons with the last one broader
and darker is diagnostic.
This is much smaller than even a light morph Red Tail.
If you were going to mistake it for anything else a possibility might
be a Sharp Shinned Hawk, but it is smaller and there are 4 tail
chevrons evenly colored, so Cooper's it is.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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TOPIC: New photos,looking for imput
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:02 pm
From: Nicko
On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, snapshot_1124 <woahhbabii...@ymail.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone ,
> I'm Kaitlin
I'm sorry to hear that.
You must hate your parents for giving you that name.
--
YOP...
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TOPIC: ISO & exposure comp. -- aren't they redundant?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 2:45 pm
From: Doug Jewell
Bob Larter wrote:
> Charles Packer wrote:
>> This has been very enlightening. First, I never knew that
>> film cameras had exposure compensation controls as well
>> as the ASA dial.
>
> They mostly don't - at least none of the basic 35mm film SLRs I've ever
> used have had EC, so we used to either shoot with the meter off the zero
> position, or change the ASA setting to give the same effect.
I had an old ricoh that had EC. It was an extra dial
attached to the ISO dial, so internally it did exactly the
same thing to the meter as changing ISO.
--
Have you ever noticed that all legal documents need to be
completed in black or blue pen, but we vote in pencil?
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TOPIC: Taking The D3x Into The Valley Of Darkness To Tame The Beast!!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:17 pm
From: "bowser"
"Larry Thong" <larry_thong@shitstring.com> wrote in message
news:t_GdnSwilYGloiHUnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@supernews.com...
> tony cooper wrote:
>
>> A waste, hunh? But a close-up shot of a model train would be a
>> perfectly legitimate entry in your new Shoot-In mandate. I may use
>> it.
>
> Considering the model train display is an exact reproduction of the 13
> mile
> stretch from historic Ellicott City to Baltimore depicting the B&O
> Railroad
> line of yesteryear it is very impressive.
Yeah, too bad the picture sucked. Damn shame.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:18 pm
From: "Larry Thong"
bowser wrote:
>> Considering the model train display is an exact reproduction of the
>> 13 mile
>> stretch from historic Ellicott City to Baltimore depicting the B&O
>> Railroad
>> line of yesteryear it is very impressive.
>
> Yeah, too bad the picture sucked. Damn shame.
LOL! Coming from you I'll take that as a compliment. I'm so glad you liked
it.
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TOPIC: New Mandate: Close Up, Due April 5th, 2009
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 4:18 pm
From: "bowser"
"Atheist Chaplain" <abused@cia.gov> wrote in message
news:49bcd991@news.x-privat.org...
> "bowser" <wh@tisgoing.on> wrote in message
> news:49bbcb49$0$8344$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>
>> "Atheist Chaplain" <abused@cia.gov> wrote in message
>> news:49bb9be8@news.x-privat.org...
>>> "bowser" <wh@tisgoing.on> wrote in message
>>> news:49b998cf$0$2784$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
>>>> After the monthly board meeting, the Shoot-In Advisory Board Committee
>>>> Team Group has chosen Close Up as this month's photographic mandate.
>>>> However, this mandate has been Bowzerized, as usual. Here's the idea:
>>>> grab a lens, any lens, and shoot something at that lens' closet
>>>> possible focus point; OR submit a killer macro/micro shot using some
>>>> dedicated macro/micro lens. This gives those of you who do not own a
>>>> macro lens a chance to submit, and those of you who have spent for that
>>>> MP-E to show us what you can do with it. There were other mandates
>>>> considered, but rejected by the Board:
>>>>
>>>> Man Date: great idea, but it gave Brett a huge advantage. No fair for
>>>> the rest of us.
>>>>
>>>> Self-Portrait: maybe next month, but it's been done as Rogue's Gallery,
>>>> and besides that, nobody deserves to be subjected to my face. Nobody.
>>>>
>>>> It's all here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin
>>>>
>>>> This mandate, Close Up, is due April 5th, 2009. Please submit your
>>>> photos by 6PM, Eastern Daylight Time.
>>>>
>>>> Fire!
>>>
>>> but does it have to be of your face ??
>>
>> No, but the alternatives are much, much worse...
>
> how bad can the back of your head be ??
Well, it is a lot better than the front, no question. But that wouldn't
work, would it?
OK, how about "self-portrait" for the next mandate? I'll be gentle.
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TOPIC: Wetbacks Love The D3x!!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:19 pm
From: "Larry Thong"
We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 5:50 pm
From: Savageduck
On 2009-03-15 17:19:23 -0700, "Larry Thong" <larry_thong@shitstring.com> said:
> We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
> swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
> But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?
>
>
> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Wetback.jpg>
Now there you go calling those Canadians disparaging names.
Silly goose.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 15 2009 6:46 pm
From: Nicko
On Mar 15, 7:19 pm, "Larry Thong" <larry_th...@shitstring.com> wrote:
> We all know wetbacks are great with lawns, very cunning, incredible
> swimmers, and love to migrate to find better opportunities for their family.
> But who would have thought they would love the D3x so much?
>
> <http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm261/Ritaberk/Wetback.jpg>
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hell, although they contain links to some really great photos that
would do well in speaking for themselves, without any hype via
nauseating cutesy usenet posts or subject lines.
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gear, and all of your exclamation marks, and violently cram them up
your goddamn ugly, diseased, attention-whore ass until you shit blood
for weeks.
HAND.
--
YOP...
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