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TOPIC: Another falls victim to the horror of P&S's
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/927bee75964a4ce4?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

Rich wrote:
>
> On Jun 22, 5:16 pm, ribbit <rib...@news.group> wrote:
> > RichA wrote:
> > > Heavy evident noise at 100 ISO.
> >
> > >http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=32138366
> >
> > The photo he is using for a supposed example was substantially under
> > exposed and had the virtual ISO lifted so something like ISO 1200 by
> > bring up the levels to 'look' like a correctly exposed image.
>
> "Something like?" 3.5 stops? Rubbish.

Hello, Rich:

Hmmm..."rubbish," you say? You should be an expert on that particular
subject -- as you haul so much of it around, during your "day job," as
one of Canada's finest "sanitation engineers." ;-)

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

RichA wrote:
>
> Heavy evident noise at 100 ISO.
>
> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1033&message=32138366

Hello, Rich:

Personally, I wonder how many of this newsgroup's newcomers will "fall victim"
to your insipid trolling?

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: The Shot Seen 'Round the World
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/15107f2ca666bb2e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

Allen wrote:

> I love to watch American football, but my 12-year-old grandson, who is
> very athletic, will not play it, preferring basketball and soccer,
> because (among other things) the high rate of injuries. This decision of
> his overjoyed me. A think perhaps that he has another reason: American
> football, as it is usually played, essentially has the purpose to make
> the other team worse through injuries; basketball and soccer as they are
> played is more positive--just to be better than the opposition.
> Allen

Hello, Allen:

Actually, basketball is second to football, in injury rate; it's a rather
rougher sport, than many people might imagine.

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 11:28 pm
From: Savageduck

On 2009-06-28 22:48:38 -0700, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> said:

> Savageduck wrote:
>>
>> On 2009-06-26 00:37:46 -0700, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> said:
>
> <heavily edited for brevity>
>
>>> I would bet that there is more soccer played in the USA than American
>>> Football (or basball or basketball) is played outside the USA.
>>
>> If any of you have been following the Confederations Cup, you might
>> have noticed this Semi-Final result; USA 2 : Spain 0.
>> http://www.sportingnews.com/soccer/article/2009-06-24/us-stuns-spain-confederations-cup-semis

Hello,
>>
> Savageduck:
>
> Myriad Spaniards may be crying their eyes out, after reading that score.
>
> Americans, on the other hand, probably want to know one thing: When is
> the NFL's upcoming "Hall Of Fame Game" played, and on what TV channel
> will it be shown? <g>
>
>
> Cordially,
> John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

There's an NFL Hall of Fame game? ...and it's on TV?

Anyway Brazil scored a late game winning goal to beat the USA 3-2 in
the Confederations Cup Final. That was after USA lead 2-0 at half time.
Team USA was the dark horse in this tournament, surprising all the odds
makers. They didn't know soccer/football is actually one of the most
popular sports in the USA with male & female teams at school, youth,
college, amateur league club and professional team level. More kids
have the ablity to play soccer at school or college in the US, than
baseball or football in many school districts as they do not have the
funding to equip and field baseball or football teams.
http://www.ussoccer.com/

--
Regards,

Savageduck

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TOPIC: Kodak kills Kodachrome film after 74 years
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/ffab234a019b33ac?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

Twibil wrote:

> I'm anti-semantic.

Hello, Twibil:

You horrid bigot, you! :-)

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

John McWilliams wrote:
>
> Twibil wrote:

> > Yeah? Rather than playing net-Nanny to pump up my ego, I've been
> > writing and selling free-lance magazine articles since clear back in
> > the 1970s. Editors have occasionally changed my words around to suit
> > themselves -screwing things up just about as often as the've make them
> > better- but the checks get cashed the same way in either case. (And
> > just to stay *mildly* on-topic, I've also taken the photos and drawn
> > the artwork to illustrate said articles.)
> >
> > So thanks anyway, but I already pretty much know how to make English -
> > and photography- "pay off", and can do so quite nicely without your
> > help.
>
> Oh, right. Post a few of the recent articles you've written, you
> anonymous coward, and I'll never correct your grammar or spelling, much
> less reason, again. Grammatical error in long paragraph, but you'll not
> catch it.

Hello, John:

I caught Twibil's mistake (and capitalized it):

"Editors have occasionally changed my words around to suit
themselves -screwing things up just about as often as the've
MAKE them better- but the checks get cashed the same way in
either case."

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: How To Detect Snapshooters from Photographers
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/1415c1c3e6a92134?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

Ron Hunter wrote:
>
> ASAAR wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:26:10 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:
> >
> >>> It's easy to see how much a poster values their communications --
> >>> it's indicated by the care they take to make them clear and
> >>> comprehensible. There's no point in reading posts which the author
> >>> himself clearly thinks are worthless.
> >>
> >> I am not able to judge, and wouldn't try, the value of my posts, if any,
> >> for any single individual. For some, they may be useful, for others a
> >> crashing waste of time. In any case, I have no interest in spending
> >> several hours a day on newsgroups so that I can edit every post I make
> >> in order to squeeze every non-essential byte from the post.

> > I'll close with this. Hours? At your advanced age, time should
> > seem to be advancing much more rapidly, not more slowly! :)
> >
> And you assume this is the only newsgroup to which I post?
> It is one of those I post LEAST to.

Hello, Ron:

According to Google Groups,, you're the all-time top poster, here
in <news:rec.photo.digital>. It's also the group, in which you've
contributed your most articles:

rec.photo.digital - 15,000+ (starting in January, 2002)

All newsgroups - 35,500+ (starting in December, 2001)

You've certainly been pretty damned prolific, Ron! <g>

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 12:13 am
From: Bob Larter

Karl Thompson wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:40:33 -0400, ASAAR <caught@22.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:22:36 -0500, Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> The loss of context is annoying, to me, at least. Threading back
>>> through previous posts is quite time consuming, while skipping to the
>>> end of a post is quite easy, at least with my newsreader.
>> You're so obtuse at times, Ron. I never said or implied that any
>> useful context should be trimmed.
>
> Well, let's fix that then:

Good idea.

[massive snip]
> gear-head, not even a lowly snapshooter; crippled and dependent on their
> automated point and shoot cameras.

*yawn* Yet another snoozefest rant.

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\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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TOPIC: New Olympus EP-1 beats D3 at low ISO
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/ca418075fb445b10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 10:49 pm
From: John Turco

Bob Larter wrote:
>
> Charles wrote:
> > "PDM" <pdcm99[deletethisbit]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:4a44ea49$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> >> "RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:c1368505-65e2-4a72-ba8a-e8a15524b500@l32g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Honest! :)
> >>>
> >>> See what the EP-1 can do with a scene with no DR and no moving parts?
> >>>
> >>> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=32227706
> >> No moving parts? What about the release button, and the lens release
> >> button and all the other buttons, et al
> >
> > Yup. Like Rich ... no moving parts.
>
> Especially his brain...

Hello, Bob:

You mean that, Rich Anderson really >has< a brain? That's news to me! :-J

Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>

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TOPIC: canon SX10is - max memory card capacity
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/a0bc81c99be36e20?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 11:13 pm
From: "David J Taylor"

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> My Panasonic supports SD and SDHC, but for some reason cards
> over 2 GB just don't work. Go figure.

If it doesn't work with prime brand 4GB SDHC cards, I would have said that
it's either faulty or needs a firmware upgrade. Be aware that 4GB SD
cards (as opposed to SDHC cards) are non-standard, and may or may not work
in any particular camera.

David

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TOPIC: Is nothing sacred? :) Not in these groups or on E-bay!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/47a7464e2ecdc094?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 11:35 pm
From: Annika1980

D-Mac, everybody knows why you only show us your crap shots and never
show the good ones.
The good ones don't exist.

The first 12 pics in this gallery were all taken by me on Sunday, June
28, 2009.
http://www.pbase.com/bret/2009

That's just one day's output, and I skipped a lot of them because I
need to go to bed.
Show me 12 pics that you've EVER taken that compare with those.
You won't. You can't. You suck.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 12:19 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-06-28 23:35:28 -0700, Annika1980 <annika1980@aol.com> said:

> D-Mac, everybody knows why you only show us your crap shots and never
> show the good ones.
> The good ones don't exist.
>
> The first 12 pics in this gallery were all taken by me on Sunday, June
> 28, 2009.
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/2009
>
> That's just one day's output, and I skipped a lot of them because I
> need to go to bed.
> Show me 12 pics that you've EVER taken that compare with those.
> You won't. You can't. You suck.

Nice osprey family Bret.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

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TOPIC: Running OS X on my PC!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/bb50fbf2b3ff2f37?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 11:54 pm
From: Bob Larter

Chris H wrote:
> In message <t9s945te51p7tuc8rernod02b10g57jd8a@4ax.com>, John Navas
> <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes
>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:37:13 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote
>> in <B9qW5PM5DMRKFAI1@phaedsys.demon.co.uk>:
>>
>>> In message <h22eau$ktf$1@qmul>, whisky-dave <whisky-
>>> dave@final.front.ear> writes
>>>> I doubt they'll ever have to manually set IP numbers up.
>>> I don't use DHCP All ours are set up manually.
>> Yuck. Why???
>
> The system is a little more secure (strict mac binding) and some kit we
> have uses manual IP
>
>> I get a fair amount of business from folks that set up networks
>> manually, and call me for help when things go wrong.
>
> Well I won't be doing that. I much prefer a manual system.
>
>>>> Cause all sorts of freezes, so I just deleted those fonts and everything was
>>>> fine.
>>>> The user didnt; remember which fonts, but I was lucky in that the offending
>>>> fonts
>>>> all had creation dates of April 1st 1976.
>> That explains it.
>
> As was pointed out elsewhere the first PC was 1981 or there abouts....
>
> Come to that what small computers (ie non-IBM PC) were about in 1976
> that would use font files?

There weren't any.

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