Monday, June 29, 2009

alt.graphics.photoshop - 6 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* website photo query - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/0b8927e7a44b9538?hl=en
* open NEF and TIFF files - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/6104716cf0ee77ea?hl=en

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TOPIC: website photo query
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/0b8927e7a44b9538?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 8:45 pm
From: "Paul Burdett"


Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.

Paul


"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her craft
>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>down
>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on to
>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>300dpi?
>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>Any
>>advice appreciated.
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>
>
> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>
> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
> {Don't save over the original!]
>
> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>
> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
> "_t"
> for the thumbnail.
>
> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
> later work.
>
> Example:
> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 1:43 pm
From: "CB"

"Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4a46e760$0$15277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.
>
> Paul

I was once told by a dude who worked with AOL and pioneered the 'gif' format
that monitors can't read beyond 75 dpi so take raw image hit ctrl > i >i,
change the dpi. Notice the dimensions change. Change the values to what you
want as long as they're not bigger than from where you started and
'constrain proportions' is checked, obviously.

>
>
> "Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
> news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
>> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her
>>>craft
>>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>>down
>>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on
>>>to
>>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>>300dpi?
>>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>>Any
>>>advice appreciated.
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>>
>>
>> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>>
>> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
>> {Don't save over the original!]
>>
>> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>>
>> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
>> "_t"
>> for the thumbnail.
>>
>> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
>> later work.
>>
>> Example:
>> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
>> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>>
>
>
>


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 2:54 pm
From: "Paul Burdett"


Thank you CB.

Paul


"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
news:4a47d5df$0$5668$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4a46e760$0$15277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.
>>
>> Paul
>
> I was once told by a dude who worked with AOL and pioneered the 'gif'
> format that monitors can't read beyond 75 dpi so take raw image hit ctrl >
> i >i, change the dpi. Notice the dimensions change. Change the values to
> what you want as long as they're not bigger than from where you started
> and 'constrain proportions' is checked, obviously.
>
>>
>>
>> "Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
>> news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
>>> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her
>>>>craft
>>>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>>>down
>>>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on
>>>>to
>>>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>>>300dpi?
>>>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>>>Any
>>>>advice appreciated.
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>>>
>>> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
>>> {Don't save over the original!]
>>>
>>> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>>>
>>> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
>>> "_t"
>>> for the thumbnail.
>>>
>>> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
>>> later work.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
>>> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 5:15 pm
From: Sir F. A. Rien


That was 'true' eons ago when monitor technology was in its infancy.

Current monitors can easily go to 1600 x 1200, that being [on a 19" -
displayable at 18"] some 110 dpi.

As far as bothering to change the dpi setting, why?

Monitors read PIXELS not dpi !!!

I can set an image to 1 dpi and to 10,000 dpi image, put them up side by
side on the web and they will be exactly the same - unless I've resampled!


"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> found these unused words:

>
>"Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>news:4a46e760$0$15277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.
>>
>> Paul
>
>I was once told by a dude who worked with AOL and pioneered the 'gif' format
>that monitors can't read beyond 75 dpi so take raw image hit ctrl > i >i,
>change the dpi. Notice the dimensions change. Change the values to what you
>want as long as they're not bigger than from where you started and
>'constrain proportions' is checked, obviously.
>
>>
>>
>> "Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
>> news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
>>> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her
>>>>craft
>>>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>>>down
>>>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on
>>>>to
>>>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>>>300dpi?
>>>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>>>Any
>>>>advice appreciated.
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>>>
>>> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
>>> {Don't save over the original!]
>>>
>>> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>>>
>>> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
>>> "_t"
>>> for the thumbnail.
>>>
>>> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
>>> later work.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
>>> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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TOPIC: open NEF and TIFF files
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/6104716cf0ee77ea?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 12:42 am
From: "Arnold Mervielde"


Dave;

thanks for your reply; but I forgot to mention.....when opening files from
Bridge....

Arnold


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 9:15 am
From: "botox"


Look at the Bridge Preferences.
It has a checkbox that is supposed to allow you to automatically open tif
and jpegs in the raw converter always or on the desktop always.
However it is Bridge and as such has never worked as it should for many
users, moi included.
One of many bugs in Bridges that have existed since version one and which
Adobe denies exists, or at least does not bother to fix.
Another annoying bug is the failure of Bridge to remember custom desktop
settings from session to session although those custom desktops are listed
as created in Bridge you painstaking customizations can be randomly erased
from session to session no matter how often you save them.
Look up how to reset Bridge to its default settings when you first start the
problem (you have to do some of this work yourself).
Then set the Bridge preferences how you like.
If you are lucky Bridge will work properly. If Bridge does not work properly
for you you are SOL per Adobe and they could care less that their $700
retail flagship program is a coding and design mess--why does the ACR exist
apart from the desktop and have separate but overlapping controls when you
have to go the desktop anyway to do anything useful with the image, like
print? The design of CS4 is a conceptual disaster/lunacy/bad joke on users.
CS4 is a perfect example of what happens when a manufacturer has no real
competition.

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