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* "Filters" is up, pleast take a look! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/2364e0c5cced6fcd?hl=en
* How Much Is That Keystone In The Window - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/e17c686a87fa7756?hl=en
* Poor, poor P&S owner learns too late... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/555753247e2a15f7?hl=en
* A "civil contract" in photography - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/62d4cf0a6c3bd6b1?hl=en
* New Mandate: The Road Less Travelled, Due July 19th, 2009 - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/b358cb0f0fb31833?hl=en
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TOPIC: "Filters" is up, pleast take a look!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/2364e0c5cced6fcd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 6:40 pm
From: tony cooper
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 20:14:24 -0400, "Bowser" <up@gone.now> wrote:
>All the usual suspects have shot tons of pics, filtered out the best ones,
>and submitted for your viewing pleasure. Take a look here:
>
>http://www.pbase.com/shootin/filters
>
Tim Conway - old - (sun and hay bales) Nice composition, The hazy
look works for me.
Bret Douglas - blue - This is an example where technique distracts and
dominates. All I can think of is "How did he do that?". It's a great
demonstration of whatever technique was used, but the end impression
is that its an exercise in special effects and not photography.
SavageDuck - Red Sky - Great image. I'm torn on the cropping, though.
Should the fence be in or out? I think I'd take it out because any
element of a composition that competes with the overall composition is
a distraction. Nicely framed, too.
Alan Browne - (filters) - Precise and pure, but too sterile.
On the others...If post-processing filters are to be used, a light
touch is usually better than a heavy application. The photo itself
has to come through.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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TOPIC: How Much Is That Keystone In The Window
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/e17c686a87fa7756?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 7:00 pm
From: tony cooper
I drove over to Cocoa, Florida, today. In the downtown area there's a
store that's full of junk (or treasures, depending on your interest)
that's been there for over 30 years. I've been in it and purchased
some things, but it's now closed and doesn't look like it's been open
for a couple of years.
I shot this through a very dusty window:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/cooper213/1474lab.jpg
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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 8:05 pm
From: Hachiroku ハチロク
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:00:42 -0400, tony cooper wrote:
> I drove over to Cocoa, Florida, today. In the downtown area there's a
> store that's full of junk (or treasures, depending on your interest)
> that's been there for over 30 years. I've been in it and purchased
> some things, but it's now closed and doesn't look like it's been open
> for a couple of years.
>
> I shot this through a very dusty window:
> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/cooper213/1474lab.jpg
Nice. What do you have for a camera?
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 9:36 pm
From: tony cooper
On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:05:20 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno@e86.GTS>
wrote:
>On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:00:42 -0400, tony cooper wrote:
>
>> I drove over to Cocoa, Florida, today. In the downtown area there's a
>> store that's full of junk (or treasures, depending on your interest)
>> that's been there for over 30 years. I've been in it and purchased
>> some things, but it's now closed and doesn't look like it's been open
>> for a couple of years.
>>
>> I shot this through a very dusty window:
>> http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f244/cooper213/1474lab.jpg
>
>Nice. What do you have for a camera?
>
Nikon D40.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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TOPIC: Poor, poor P&S owner learns too late...
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/555753247e2a15f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 7:13 pm
From: John Navas
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009 11:03:31 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
wrote in <4a2db4e6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
>Greg Amstead wrote:
>> On Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:09:20 GMT, "David J Taylor"
>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.not-this-part.nor-this.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> John Navas wrote:
>>> []
>>>> The weight savings with comparable optical quality of current dSLR kit
>>>> over the 35 mm kit I carried is significant, but not substantial, and
>>>> nothing matches the quality and performance of the Leica-branded zoom
>>>> on my FZ28 even at many times the price. Caveat: The new Micro Four
>>>> Thirds (e.g., Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH1) has the potential to get much
>>>> closer than APS sensor, given the smaller sensor and other
>>>> compromises. There is no magic.(c)
>>>>
>>>> "Panasonic DMC-GH1 brief hands-on"
>>>> <http://www.dpreview.com/news/0903/09030316lumixgh1handson.asp>
>>>> Preview
>>>> <http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC_GH1/verdict.shtml>
>>>
>>> The FZ28 is undoubtedly an excellent camera in its class, but you pays you
>>> money and takes your choice. Everything is a compromise, including the
>>> FZ28, and if you can live with the compromises, that's fine.
>> That's something that I'll never understand.
>
>What a shock.
>
>Can we expect to see any of your amazing P&S shots any time soon?
Been there; done that. Please keep up. ;)
--
Best regards,
John
Panasonic DMC-FZ28 (and several others)
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TOPIC: A "civil contract" in photography
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/62d4cf0a6c3bd6b1?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 7:48 pm
From: Marty Fremen
C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Another photographer at the end of WW II was documenting the Holocaust.
> As he stood looking at the pile of skulls, he suddenly realized -- his
> biggest concerns were light and composition, not the humanity of his
> subjects. That, he said, was when he knew something had happened to him
> as a human being. He quit photojournalism forever.
I presume you are talking about George Rodger. But he didn't quit
photojournalism, just being a war correspondent.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 9:10 pm
From: ASAAR
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:07:22 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
> Eddie Adams said that he greatly regretted taking his famous photo
> of the execution of a Viet Cong by General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, even
> though the photo won Adams a Pulitzer Prize and was instrumental in
> changing public opinion about the war.
Sure, and Eddie Adams said that the reason was that Nguyen Ngoc
Loan's relatives had suffered due to the actions of that particular
Viet Cong. There's a good reason for the existence of recusal. Not
many people can get away with being judge, jury and executioner,
whether they're personally involved or not. Occasionally they'll
luck out and find a sympathetic judge or jury. But the members of a
crazed lynch mob probably feel just as innocent. Ah, lynch mobs.
The purest form of American democracy in action.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 11:29 pm
From: C J Campbell
On 2009-06-08 19:48:30 -0700, Marty Fremen <Marty@fremen.invalid> said:
> C J Campbell <christophercampbellremovethis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another photographer at the end of WW II was documenting the Holocaust.
>> As he stood looking at the pile of skulls, he suddenly realized -- his
>> biggest concerns were light and composition, not the humanity of his
>> subjects. That, he said, was when he knew something had happened to him
>> as a human being. He quit photojournalism forever.
>
>
> I presume you are talking about George Rodger. But he didn't quit
> photojournalism, just being a war correspondent.
Thanks! I was trying to remember his name. I appreciate that immensely.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 8 2009 11:35 pm
From: C J Campbell
On 2009-06-08 21:10:29 -0700, ASAAR <caught@22.com> said:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:07:22 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>
>> Eddie Adams said that he greatly regretted taking his famous photo
>> of the execution of a Viet Cong by General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, even
>> though the photo won Adams a Pulitzer Prize and was instrumental in
>> changing public opinion about the war.
>
> Sure, and Eddie Adams said that the reason was that Nguyen Ngoc
> Loan's relatives had suffered due to the actions of that particular
> Viet Cong. There's a good reason for the existence of recusal. Not
> many people can get away with being judge, jury and executioner,
> whether they're personally involved or not. Occasionally they'll
> luck out and find a sympathetic judge or jury. But the members of a
> crazed lynch mob probably feel just as innocent. Ah, lynch mobs.
> The purest form of American democracy in action.
If there is anything we have learned, it is that lynch mobs are not
unique to America or even characteristic of it, nor do they have
anything to do with democracy.
After all, Loan was neither American, nor was he serving a democracy.
Yet he executed that man. Perhaps understandably so. Perhaps not.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 9 2009 12:21 am
From: ASAAR
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 23:35:36 -0700, C J Campbell wrote:
>> Sure, and Eddie Adams said that the reason was that Nguyen Ngoc
>> Loan's relatives had suffered due to the actions of that particular
>> Viet Cong. There's a good reason for the existence of recusal. Not
>> many people can get away with being judge, jury and executioner,
>> whether they're personally involved or not. Occasionally they'll
>> luck out and find a sympathetic judge or jury. But the members of a
>> crazed lynch mob probably feel just as innocent. Ah, lynch mobs.
>> The purest form of American democracy in action.
>
> If there is anything we have learned, it is that lynch mobs are not
> unique to America or even characteristic of it, nor do they have
> anything to do with democracy.
>
> After all, Loan was neither American, nor was he serving a democracy.
> Yet he executed that man. Perhaps understandably so. Perhaps not.
He was serving his own puppet government. We had a hand in
replacing Viet Nam's elected leader. That's what happens when
leaders are too moderate and try to do what's best for their own
country, not the ones that are truly running the show. Same thing
happened to the popular (and as far as I can tell) truly decent King
Norodom Sihanouk, who tried mightily but was ultimately unable to
keep Cambodia neutral. Some buddy traffic analysts in Viet Nam
seemed to like him and called him "Snookie". I was told but haven't
been able to verify it, that like another well known politician, he
played the saxophone.
> Sihanouk's leisure interests include music (he has composed songs
> in Khmer, French, and English) and film. He has become a
> prodigious filmmaker over the years, directing many movies and
> orchestrating musical compositions. He became one of the first
> heads of state in the region to have a personal website, which has
> proven a cult hit. It draws more than a thousand visitors a day,
> which constitutes a substantial portion of his nation's Internet users.
> Royal statements are posted there daily.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norodom_Sihanouk
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TOPIC: New Mandate: The Road Less Travelled, Due July 19th, 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/b358cb0f0fb31833?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jun 9 2009 12:09 am
From: "Pete D"
"Bowser" <up@gone.now> wrote in message
news:4a2d7dcc$0$11539$ec3e2dad@news.usenetmonster.com...
> Courtesy of our Canadian friend, the new mandate is "The Road Less
> Travelled." The due date for this mandate is July 19th, 2009. I had to
> extend the due date a bit to accomodate my work and vacation schedule, but
> it'll give us more time to shoot some originals rather than submitting
> archive shots. So please avoid the archive shots for this one!
>
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/road_less_traveled
>
> The photo in the gallery is from Southern Utah, taken shortly before the
> road became impassable by SUV.
Dang, was looking to start putting some entries in these shootouts and this
mandate would be great for a trip I am doing up through some of the Aussie
desert areas next month.
Pete
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