Sunday, June 28, 2009

alt.graphics.photoshop - 7 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* website photo query - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/0b8927e7a44b9538?hl=en
* open NEF and TIFF files - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/6104716cf0ee77ea?hl=en

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TOPIC: website photo query
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/0b8927e7a44b9538?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 26 2009 10:19 pm
From: david johnson


sounds like your using a standard run of the mill instant digital
camera. depending on the res will depends on how many pixesl you have.
Take your photo. throw it into ps as is, then scale it down so you can
see it all, to allow for you to crop it to lose any stuff you dont
need, or indeed to allow yo to take out background etc.

then make a second 450 x 450 image and inport your newly edited photo
into it, making it fit, then use save to web option

On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:12:52 +1000, "Paul Burdett"
<pburdett@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her craft
>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling down
>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on to
>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to 300dpi?
>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so. Any
>advice appreciated.
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>The website is www.littleextras.net
>


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 6:53 am
From: Sir F. A. Rien


"Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:

>Hi all,
>
>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her craft
>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling down
>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on to
>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to 300dpi?
>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so. Any
>advice appreciated.
>Cheers,
>
>Paul
>
>The website is www.littleextras.net
>

For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !

Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
{Don't save over the original!]

Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].

For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a "_t"
for the thumbnail.

This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
later work.

Example:
cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 5:53 pm
From: James McNangle


Voivod <Voi@vod.con> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:12:52 +1000, "Paul Burdett"
><pburdett@optusnet.com.au> scribbled:
>
>>The photos are 72dpi when opened in Photoshop
>
>And they're the same on your monitor, my monitor and everyone else's.

Sorry, but rubbish! If you really want to know what the dpi of your monitor is
-- and I very much doubt if you do -- measure the screen dimensions, then divide
the total numbers of pixels by the dimensions. For my two screens the results
are 88dpi for one, and 96dpi for the other, in the horizontal direction. The
values are probably different in the vertical direction.

I don't know why Photoshop has its fixation with dpi, but the only time this
term has any meaning whatsoever is when you print a photo. Even then I generally
specify the dimensions of the printed image, and ignore the dpi altogether.

For anything to do with web pages the only significant quantities are the
dimensions of the image, in pixels (as Paul realised after he posted his
original message).

And, in answer to Paul's intended original question, the correct procedure is to
crop and/or optimise the image as required, save a copy in the original size (in
case you want to print it, or use it for some other purpose later), then
resample to the permitted size, and save, using the 'save for web' option. It is
not necessary to specify dpi at any stage in this process.

James McNangle


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 7:00 pm
From: Voivod


On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:53:52 +1000, James McNangle
<mcnangle@westnet.com.au> scribbled:

>Voivod <Voi@vod.con> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:12:52 +1000, "Paul Burdett"
>><pburdett@optusnet.com.au> scribbled:
>>
>>>The photos are 72dpi when opened in Photoshop
>>
>>And they're the same on your monitor, my monitor and everyone else's.
>
>Sorry, but rubbish! If you really want to know what the dpi of your monitor is
>-- and I very much doubt if you do -- measure the screen dimensions, then divide
>the total numbers of pixels by the dimensions. For my two screens the results
>are 88dpi for one, and 96dpi for the other, in the horizontal direction. The
>values are probably different in the vertical direction.

Stuff yourself. You couldn't tell the difference between 72 and 96 DPI
if you tried.

>I don't know why Photoshop has its fixation with dpi, but the only time this
>term has any meaning whatsoever is when you print a photo. Even then I generally
>specify the dimensions of the printed image, and ignore the dpi altogether.

Yes, I know that.

>For anything to do with web pages the only significant quantities are the
>dimensions of the image, in pixels (as Paul realised after he posted his
>original message).
>
>And, in answer to Paul's intended original question, the correct procedure is to
>crop and/or optimise the image as required, save a copy in the original size (in
>case you want to print it, or use it for some other purpose later), then
>resample to the permitted size, and save, using the 'save for web' option. It is
>not necessary to specify dpi at any stage in this process.

Which is why I said it didn't matter. Perhaps you missed that in your
desire to pontificate and lecture with great pomposity. How do you and
your ego live in that same small skull?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 8:45 pm
From: "Paul Burdett"


Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.

Paul


"Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her craft
>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>down
>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on to
>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>300dpi?
>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>Any
>>advice appreciated.
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>
>
> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>
> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
> {Don't save over the original!]
>
> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>
> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
> "_t"
> for the thumbnail.
>
> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
> later work.
>
> Example:
> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>

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TOPIC: open NEF and TIFF files
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/6104716cf0ee77ea?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 6:48 am
From: "Arnold Mervielde"


Hi !!

I hope someone out there can help me with the following problem?

1. Opening a NEF raw file takes a long time , however the next files open
blazing fast!

2. Sometimes Tiff files open in PS ; sometimes thy open in Camera Raw!

XP pro
PS cs4
Raw 5.4

Thanks
Arnold


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 1:51 pm
From: Dave


On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:48:13 +0200, "Arnold Mervielde"
<mervielde.arnold@telenet.be> wrote:

>Hi !!
>
>I hope someone out there can help me with the following problem?
>
>1. Opening a NEF raw file takes a long time , however the next files open
>blazing fast!
>
>2. Sometimes Tiff files open in PS ; sometimes thy open in Camera Raw!
>
>XP pro
>PS cs4
>Raw 5.4
>
>Thanks
>Arnold
>

On your desktop click on My Computor and navigate to any sample of a
Tif (or whatever format).Open the directory but do not open the
picture. Instead, right click on it and go with your left button to
'choose program'.

Now you select the block which says 'always open with...' and make
your pick.

There you are... as from now on, it will always open
via the selected program.

Dave
http://dave.photos.gb.net/p48744869.html

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