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TOPIC: Looking for Linux-friendly network cameras
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 10:29 am
From: General Schvantzkoph

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:00:48 -0500, Robert Heller wrote:

> At Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:05:37 +0200 Knorpi <knorpi@mailinator.com> wrote:
>
>
>> What is a network camera?
>
> It is a self-contained camera with some sort of network interface (eg
> 10BaseT EtherNet). Does not connect to a computer. Instead you jack it
> into a LAN. Some network cameras are wireless -- they have a wireless
> NIC interface (eg IEEE 802.11<mumble>) and connect to the a local
> wireless network. Generally, they have an embedded processor (often
> running Linux), usually with some smart hardware/firmware for grabbing
> images (or video) from a CCD camera and shoving it out onto the network,
> generally with a built-in web server.
>
>
>> Knorpi
>>

Here is an example,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16881103015

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TOPIC: vt100 vs. xterm
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 10:13 am
From: Bill Marcum

On 2009-04-15, yawnmoth <terra1024@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> The SSH specifications use vt100 as an example of a shell that can be
> used. PuTTY uses xterm. My question is... what's the difference
> between the two?
>
Xterm is a program that emulates a VT100 terminal. A shell is a command
interpreter which often uses a terminal for input/output.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:08 am
From: markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark Hobley)

yawnmoth <terra1024@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The SSH specifications use vt100 as an example of a shell that can be
> used. PuTTY uses xterm. My question is... what's the difference
> between the two?

An xterm terminal is colour terminal, the vt100 is monochrome.

Mark.

--
Mark Hobley
Linux User: #370818 http://markhobley.yi.org/

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:54 am
From: Robert Heller

At Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:08:08 GMT markhobley@hotpop.donottypethisbit.com (Mark Hobley) wrote:

>
> yawnmoth <terra1024@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The SSH specifications use vt100 as an example of a shell that can be
> > used. PuTTY uses xterm. My question is... what's the difference
> > between the two?
>
> An xterm terminal is colour terminal, the vt100 is monochrome.

Depends on the xterm program. The *original* XAW xterm program (the
one *I* use) is 'monochrome', in the sense that there is only two main
colors user (text (forwground) and background), plus the color for the
cursor box/block, although you can set the 'colors' used to whatever
you want. So the *original* XAW xterm program is almost exactly like a
VT102 (and can also emulate a Tektronix 4014 (vector graphics
terminal)). Most modern xterminal program (eg gnome-terminal) are more
like a colored ANSI terminal.

>
> Mark.
>

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TOPIC: How to make Windows XP default boot on a dual boot laptop
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/886412e33365608f?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:11 am
From: Moog

notbob illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> On 2009-04-15, Ignoramus10773 <ignoramus10773@NOSPAM.10773.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Any recommendations?
>
> Use LILO.

The dark memories are oozing out. ;-)

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:14 am
From: Moog

Ignoramus10773 illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> This is a dual boot laptop for my spouse, running XP and Linux as a
> dual boot. Grub is the bootloader that chains into XP.
>
> My question is how to make XP the default choice safely, friendly to
> update-grub command and having multiple kernels. My wife will mostly
> use XP, I am surem although she is familiar with linux.
>
> Use of directive "default <number>" does not seem to be robust due to
> changing numbers.
>
> Any recommendations?

This will irk the purists, but install the wonderfully simple
"startup-manager" and do it from the full glory of a bloated desktop
windowing enviroment, such as Gnome.
;-)

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 11:51 am
From: Ignoramus28617

On 2009-04-15, Moog <efcmoog@gmail.com> wrote:
> notbob illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
>> On 2009-04-15, Ignoramus10773 <ignoramus10773@NOSPAM.10773.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> Use LILO.
>
><shudder>
>
> The dark memories are oozing out. ;-)
>

I had relatively good luck with LILO. I used it for the first few
years.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 1:17 pm
From: Gang Greene

plapla wrote:

> Ignoramus10773 a écrit :
>> This is a dual boot laptop for my spouse, running XP and Linux as a
>> dual boot. Grub is the bootloader that chains into XP.
>>
>> My question is how to make XP the default choice safely, friendly to
>> update-grub command and having multiple kernels. My wife will mostly
>> use XP, I am surem although she is familiar with linux.
>>
>> Use of directive "default <number>" does not seem to be robust due to
>> changing numbers.
>>
>> Any recommendations?
>>
>> i
> You can use "StartUp Manager". It's in the repos and allows you to
> choose wich OS will boot by default.
> HTH and YMMV :)

Jesus Christ dudes all that is needed to to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and set
default to the correct entry (number).

try sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst

What is so hard about that?

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TOPIC: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 15 April 2009 NYLUG: Jon Stanley on Rolling Your
Own Linux With Fedora
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/0fccb7d3ffeb746c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 12:31 pm
From: secretary@lxny.org

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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:00:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [nylug-announce] TODAY! NYLUG 4/15 Meeting: Jon Stanley on Roll Your Own Linux With Fedora (last NYLUG?)
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Wednesday, April 15, 2009
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Please join us for possibly the last NYLUG meeting any time soon*,
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Have you ever wanted to make your own custom remix of Linux that suits
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It's easier to do this with Fedora Linux than you probably think.

First, we'll talk about why you might want to roll your own customized
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Then we'll actually perform the process for a livecd, and use the USB
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Then, courtesy of Fedora, there will be pizza!

Jon will also have assorted Fedora swag (stickers, some buttons, a few
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About Jon Stanley:
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TOPIC: DDS-2 Tape drive -- setting density
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/5b48d457764d84d5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 1:17 pm
From: alan_mckenney1@yahoo.com

I have a 4mm tape drive that I'm told is DDS-2.

It identifies itself as an Archive Python 04687-XXX 6610 drive.
(The fron panel says Seagate.)

However, "mt -f /dev/st0 status" shows it set to DDS-1 (0x13),
and if I try to change the density to DDS-2, by
"mt -f /dev/st0 setdensity 0x24", it gives me an error message.

Setting it to density 0x13 gives no error.

I did notice that if I put a DDS-1 cassette in, it gets errors
when it tries to write or read the tape. I don't know if it's
because the tape is kaput or if the drive can't handle
a DDS-1 tape.

Also, I can't figure out whether "mt -f /dev/st0 compression 1" does
anything -- is there a command to show whether compression
is on?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 1:22 pm
From: alan_mckenney1@yahoo.com

On Apr 15, 4:17 pm, alan_mckenn...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I have a 4mm tape drive that I'm told is DDS-2.
>
> It identifies itself as an Archive Python 04687-XXX 6610 drive.
> (The fron panel says Seagate.)
>
> However, "mt -f /dev/st0 status" shows it set to DDS-1 (0x13),
> and if I try to change the density to DDS-2, by
> "mt -f /dev/st0 setdensity 0x24", it gives me an error message.
>
> Setting it to density 0x13 gives no error.
>
> I did notice that if I put a DDS-1 cassette in, it gets errors
> when it tries to write or read the tape. I don't know if it's
> because the tape is kaput or if the drive can't handle
> a DDS-1 tape.
>
> Also, I can't figure out whether "mt -f /dev/st0 compression 1" does
> anything -- is there a command to show whether compression
> is on?

I forgot to mention: this is a RedHat 9 system (kernel 2.4.20-6)

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 1:25 pm
From: Jules

On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:17:32 -0700, alan_mckenney1 wrote:

> I have a 4mm tape drive that I'm told is DDS-2.

Do you know the drive's any good? IME those drives are really prone to
failure - and all sorts of odd things can happen when they go bad :-(

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TOPIC: GNU Make: target name as dependency
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/4cf641da56fe1071?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 1:23 pm
From: "amirovic@googlemail.com"

Hi,

Is there a way to define the target name as a dependency (after
changing the extension)? In System V make one can use "$$@" to do so.
How can I get this done with GNU Make.

Thanks a lot for any hint,
Tom

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TOPIC: .m2v to h.264?
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/9ecdcdc0dce85258?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 2:28 pm
From: bafenator

I am capturing ATSC streams via an HDHomeRun tuner, and would like
to convert them to something with an h.264 encoding. Everything I see
shows examples of splitting out audio, reencoding the audio, muxing,
and converting via about ten different utilities.

Is there any reasonably simple way to do the conversion from the
command line, so it can be automated?

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TOPIC: Makefile missing for .c file. How to create
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/0bf17ece1294abac?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 3:11 pm
From: asdf

I have a forcedeth.c (ver 0.62) code that i need to compile against a
running kernel, and there are no rpms that i know for my distro(centos 5.3)
Usually there is a Makefile in the directory but not this time, there is
only forcedeth.c file. I'm not sure how to creat a makefile so that i could
do ./configure;make;make install

thanks in advance for help.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:26 pm
From: The Natural Philosopher

asdf wrote:
> I have a forcedeth.c (ver 0.62) code that i need to compile against a
> running kernel, and there are no rpms that i know for my distro(centos 5.3)
> Usually there is a Makefile in the directory but not this time, there is
> only forcedeth.c file. I'm not sure how to creat a makefile so that i could
> do ./configure;make;make install
>
> thanks in advance for help.
I found this on google

"I've been able to update to the latest forcedeth 0.60 in the following
way I'm going to describe.

Before all:
-I'm using kernel 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8, so change version numbers
accordingly to yours;

1)Download latest nvidia nforce package
2)For Dapper, I suggest you using forcedeth.c file contained under
Fedora5 folder of the downloaded package
3)Install build-essential plus linux-headers-2.6.15-27-amd64-k8
4)Copy forcedeth.c into some folder, e.g. /home/willytp/forcedeth
5)Into this folder, make a file called "Makefile" containing the
following line:
obj-m := forcedeth.o
6)Into this folder, execute the following command:
make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-27-amd64-k8/ SUBDIRS=$PWD modules
7)Copy the just created forcedeth.ko module into
/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers/net/
overwriting the old one
8)Execute this command: sudo depmod -a
9)Make a new initrd image: go into /boot/ folder, locate your initrd
image, save it name, delete the file, and execute the following command:
mkinitramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.15-27-amd64-k8
10)Cross fingers and reboot ;)
"

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:42 pm
From: Unruh

asdf <asdf@adsf.com> writes:

>I have a forcedeth.c (ver 0.62) code that i need to compile against a
>running kernel, and there are no rpms that i know for my distro(centos 5.3)
>Usually there is a Makefile in the directory but not this time, there is
>only forcedeth.c file. I'm not sure how to creat a makefile so that i could
>do ./configure;make;make install

>thanks in advance for help.

Well you could create a makefile, or you could just do
gcc forcedeth.c -o forcedeth
and compile it directly. (That is presumably all the makefile would do.)
Once you knowit works,
cp forcedeth /usr/local/bin
chmos a+rx /usr/local/bin/forcedeth
(assuming you want anyone to be able to run it)

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:49 pm
From: The Natural Philosopher

Unruh wrote:
> asdf <asdf@adsf.com> writes:
>
>> I have a forcedeth.c (ver 0.62) code that i need to compile against a
>> running kernel, and there are no rpms that i know for my distro(centos 5.3)
>> Usually there is a Makefile in the directory but not this time, there is
>> only forcedeth.c file. I'm not sure how to creat a makefile so that i could
>> do ./configure;make;make install
>
>> thanks in advance for help.
>
> Well you could create a makefile, or you could just do
> gcc forcedeth.c -o forcedeth
> and compile it directly. (That is presumably all the makefile would do.)
> Once you knowit works,
> cp forcedeth /usr/local/bin
> chmos a+rx /usr/local/bin/forcedeth
> (assuming you want anyone to be able to run it)
>
>
>
forcedeth is a loadable object module.

Its is not a an executable by itself.

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TOPIC: Interprocess Communication
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.misc/t/3dad52cfc78ee119?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 4:07 pm
From: Marshall Lake

I've never done any IPC coding (I have done some socket programming
however).

I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
following scenerio:

platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)

Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
directions with each other.

Did I forget anything?

Any help is appreciated.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:29 pm
From: Dan Espen

Marshall Lake <fa-q@NS.net> writes:

> I've never done any IPC coding (I have done some socket programming
> however).
>
> I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
> following scenerio:
>
> platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)
>
> Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
> be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
> different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
> types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
> one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
> CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
> Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
> directions with each other.
>
> Did I forget anything?

Without knowing what this application is really doing, I'd vote for
what I would find easiest:

Perl.

Do:

man perlipc

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:37 pm
From: The Natural Philosopher

Dan Espen wrote:
> Marshall Lake <fa-q@NS.net> writes:
>
>> I've never done any IPC coding (I have done some socket programming
>> however).
>>
>> I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
>> following scenerio:
>>
>> platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)
>>
>> Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
>> be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
>> different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
>> types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
>> one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
>> CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
>> Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
>> directions with each other.
>>
>> Did I forget anything?
>
> Without knowing what this application is really doing, I'd vote for
> what I would find easiest:
>
> Perl.
>
> Do:
>
> man perlipc
Well I'd prolly either use files or a mysql database..on write by one
only read by another/many basis per record.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 5:15 pm
From: Handover Phist

Marshall Lake :
> I've never done any IPC coding (I have done some socket programming
> however).
>
> I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
> following scenerio:
>
> platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)
>
> Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
> be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
> different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
> types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
> one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
> CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
> Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
> directions with each other.
>
> Did I forget anything?
>
> Any help is appreciated.

Disclaimer: I'm an ignorant bastard who knows nothing.

Isn't this what hald is for?

--
Vegetarians for oral sex -- "The only meat that's fit to eat"

www.websterscafe.com

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 6:56 pm
From: Marshall Lake

>> I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
>> following scenerio:
>>
>> platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)
>>
>> Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
>> be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
>> different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
>> types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
>> one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
>> CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
>> Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
>> directions with each other.

> Without knowing what this application is really doing, I'd vote for
> what I would find easiest:
>
> Perl.

I should have included that in my scenerio. I'll be using C.

The application will be a game environment where one person will be
competing against another person. It won't be in real-time. It will
be more of move-based environment. Think Chess between two people.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 15 2009 6:58 pm
From: Marshall Lake

>>> I'd like some feedback as to a good type of IPC to use under the
>>> following scenerio:
>>>
>>> platform - Linux (I really don't care about supporting any other platform)
>>>
>>> Multiple children, all of the same parent and on the same machine, will
>>> be communicating. There will be two different types (read: having two
>>> different sets of responsibilities) of children. Call the two different
>>> types of children CH1 and CH2. There can be many CH1 children and only
>>> one CH2 child. The CH2 child will be the controlling process. All the
>>> CH1 children will communicate in both directions with the CH2 child.
>>> Once control is completed two CH1 children will be communicating in both
>>> directions with each other.

> Well I'd prolly either use files or a mysql database..on write by one
> only read by another/many basis per record.

Using files written to a hard drive won't work in this case. That's not
really IPC, is it?

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