Friday, April 24, 2009

alt.design.graphics - 8 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Need graphic artist(s) for posters - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/59c2b12f54b484f7?hl=en
* GORGEOUS SEXUAL RUSSIAN BOYS AND REAL SOLDIERS - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/f5c68bb0e3d6d67c?hl=en
* NPR: Magazine Fetish Cartoons by Superman Co-creator Joe Schuster - 5
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/44f340de24f259b4?hl=en

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TOPIC: Need graphic artist(s) for posters
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/59c2b12f54b484f7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 22 2009 7:56 pm
From: "NotMe"


"Larry" <seishinproductions@gmail.com>

Might check out www.no-spec.com for the reality of " I unfortunately cannot
offer you any salary for the moment. Only
things I can guarantee you (by contract) is to pay you retroactively
if I can secure a budget. "

Spec work has a documented ROI (return on investment) of ~1%. By comparison,
the slots in Vegas have a ROI of 3-5%


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 9:23 am
From: fsdstudio@gmail.com


On Apr 22, 8:53 pm, Larry <seishinproducti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've written some screenplays and want to try to find money to enter
> production status.
>
> I'll be needing graphic artist(s) to design poster teasers.
>
> I unfortunately cannot offer you any salary for the moment. Only
> things I can guarantee you (by contract) is to pay you retroactively
> if I can secure a budget.
>
> It's a take it or leave it deal, sorry, I really have no other
> solution for the moment
>
> Larry

Actually, there probably is more you can offer here -- at least in
terms of information.

What is your track record for selling screenplays? How much
experience do you have in the industry? Do you have an agent
representing you or are you trying to hit up producers yourself?

And finally, why do you think you need "teaser" posters at the stage
of merely selling the screenplay? If the script is solid, it will
sell itself with little more than a good synopisis and introduction
letter included. If it's really solid, and you have an agent, then
your agent should be the one generating the buzz.

Personally, I think you're jumping the gun. At this point of your
development, you need to focus your energy 100% on the writing, not
some poster designs that you can't afford anyway. And if you need a
teaser poster to make your screenplay more appealing, then your script
probably isn't ready anyway.

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TOPIC: GORGEOUS SEXUAL RUSSIAN BOYS AND REAL SOLDIERS
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/f5c68bb0e3d6d67c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 6:54 am
From: Asmodej


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TOPIC: NPR: Magazine Fetish Cartoons by Superman Co-creator Joe Schuster
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.design.graphics/t/44f340de24f259b4?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 2:19 pm
From: Bluuuue Rajah

The Sexy 'Secret Identity' Of Superman's Creator

Listen Now [18 min 11 sec]
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103290167

Author Craig Yoe explores the risque art of the man behind Superman in
his new book, "Secret Identity: The Fetish Art Of Superman's Co-creator
Joe Shuster."

As Yoe explains, artist Joe Shuster did not earn much money for his part
in the creation of the man of steel. After suing D.C. Comics over the
copyright for Superman, Shuster drew art for an obscure series of
magazines called "Nights Of Horror." In "Secret Identity," Yoe collects
Shuster's racy drawings and details the scandal and murder trial related
to Nights Of Horror.

The author of over 30 books, Yoe runs the New York design firm YOE!
Studio.

See Images From 'Secret Identity'

Read the Monkey See Blog Post on 'Secret Identity'

Fresh Air from WHYY, April 23, 2009·

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 4:49 pm
From: plausible prose man


On Apr 23, 5:19 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
> The Sexy 'Secret Identity' Of Superman's Creator
>
> Listen Now [18 min 11 sec]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103290167
>
> Author Craig Yoe explores the risque art of the man behind Superman in
> his new book, "Secret Identity: The Fetish Art Of Superman's Co-creator
> Joe Shuster."
>
> As Yoe explains, artist Joe Shuster did not earn much money for his part
> in the creation of the man of steel.

Joe did pretty well for himself, and got no worse than he really
deserved.

> After suing D.C. Comics over the
> copyright for Superman,

And losing

> Shuster drew art for an obscure series of
> magazines called "Nights Of Horror."

I'm a little concerned with the actual truth of this, as Joe was, it
is my understanding, damn near blind by then, and could only turn in
very rough pencils and Clark, Lois, and Superman faces for the studio
he headed that was producing Superman comics.

> In "Secret Identity," Yoe collects
> Shuster's racy drawings and details the scandal and murder trial related
> to Nights Of Horror.

I don't really know how necessary it was to bring this all forward,
either.

> The author of over 30 books, Yoe runs the New York design firm YOE!
> Studio.

And he's a dead ringer for Robert Vienneau.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 5:09 pm
From: Bluuuue Rajah


plausible prose man <Georgefhaley@aol.com> wrote in
news:742f968f-1161-485a-8846-485b3112ee25@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:

> On Apr 23, 5:19 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
>> The Sexy 'Secret Identity' Of Superman's Creator
>>
>> Listen Now [18 min 11
>> sec]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st
> oryId=103290167
>>
>> Author Craig Yoe explores the risque art of the man behind Superman
>> in his new book, "Secret Identity: The Fetish Art Of Superman's
>> Co-creator Joe Shuster."
>>
>> As Yoe explains, artist Joe Shuster did not earn much money for his
>> part in the creation of the man of steel.
>
> Joe did pretty well for himself, and got no worse than he really
> deserved.
>
>> After suing D.C. Comics over the
>> copyright for Superman,
>
> And losing
>
>> Shuster drew art for an obscure series of
>> magazines called "Nights Of Horror."
>
> I'm a little concerned with the actual truth of this, as Joe was, it
> is my understanding, damn near blind by then, and could only turn in
> very rough pencils and Clark, Lois, and Superman faces for the studio
> he headed that was producing Superman comics.
>
>> In "Secret Identity," Yoe collects
>> Shuster's racy drawings and details the scandal and murder trial
>> related to Nights Of Horror.
>
> I don't really know how necessary it was to bring this all forward,
> either.

You're kidding me, right? It's a sequel to the Fred Wertham soap opera.
The history of censorship is one of the most important chapters in the
American drama.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 7:09 pm
From: plausible prose man


On Apr 23, 8:09 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
> plausible prose man <Georgefha...@aol.com> wrote innews:742f968f-1161-485a-8846-485b3112ee25@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 23, 5:19 pm, Bluuuue Rajah <Bluuuuue@Rajah.> wrote:
> >> The Sexy 'Secret Identity' Of Superman's Creator
>
> >> Listen Now [18 min 11
> >> sec]http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st
> > oryId=103290167
>
> >> Author Craig Yoe explores the risque art of the man behind Superman
> >> in his new book, "Secret Identity: The Fetish Art Of Superman's
> >> Co-creator Joe Shuster."
>
> >> As Yoe explains, artist Joe Shuster did not earn much money for his
> >> part in the creation of the man of steel.
>
> >  Joe did pretty well for himself, and got no worse than he really
> > deserved.
>
> >> After suing D.C. Comics over the
> >> copyright for Superman,
>
> >  And losing
>
> >> Shuster drew art for an obscure series of
> >> magazines called "Nights Of Horror."
>
> >  I'm a little concerned with the actual truth of this, as Joe was, it
> > is my understanding, damn near blind by then, and could only turn in
> > very rough pencils and Clark, Lois, and Superman faces for the studio
> > he headed that was producing Superman comics.
>
> >> In "Secret Identity," Yoe collects
> >> Shuster's racy drawings and details the scandal and murder trial
> >> related to Nights Of Horror.
>
> >  I don't really know how necessary it was to bring this all forward,
> > either.
>
> You're kidding me, right?

No, I'm serious. I can't shake the intuition Yoe's simply tacked a
coda of humiliation and exploitation onto the life of Joe Shuster.

>  It's a sequel to the Fred Wertham soap opera.

Well, mainly it's a Tijuana bible featuring Superman and Lois dressed
up as historical research; it's not like the story of the comics code
hysteria and proft hasn't been told elsewhere and better, like in Ten
Cent Plague.
 


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 23 2009 7:55 pm
From: Bob Hughes


On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 16:49:28 -0700 (PDT), plausible prose man
<Georgefhaley@aol.com> wrote:


>> Shuster drew art for an obscure series of
>> magazines called "Nights Of Horror."
>
> I'm a little concerned with the actual truth of this, as Joe was, it
>is my understanding, damn near blind by then, and could only turn in
>very rough pencils and Clark, Lois, and Superman faces for the studio
>he headed that was producing Superman comics.
>

Joe's blindness has been exagerated. He was still drawing comics for
Charlton in the mid-fifties. The artwork in Yoe's book is clearly
Shuster's.

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