Sunday, March 8, 2009

adobe.photoshop.macintosh - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Larger mousepointer - Brush cursorsize issue CS4 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/8092cca96ba9ce78?hl=en
* Help with unexpected change color - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/354d81cbaaccd9aa?hl=en
* Curves adjustmentlayer in cs4, are there any way to get it to work like in
cs3? - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/68839d735a863e44?hl=en
* Adobe Photoshop 3.0 (Mac) Serial Number Input Problem - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/931713f19535a550?hl=en
* UK tech support - or any support? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fb0ba6cebbee93e4?hl=en
* Photoshop performance on new Mac Pro "Nehalem" - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/51c1421c634f2c2f?hl=en
* Ref: Text Resolution from Photoshop... High or Low Resolution ? - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/46c96f2e4c00c341?hl=en
* CS4 Cropping Problem - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/007d0035910306a3?hl=en
* GPU enhancement issues with ATI Radeon X1900 XT - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/867b9fd5220134db?hl=en
* Printing One to One - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/030bab8fa4827cc0?hl=en
* Picture Package FUBAR - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d6db57d9287cb09e?hl=en

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TOPIC: Larger mousepointer - Brush cursorsize issue CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/8092cca96ba9ce78?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 12:03 am
From: Nikolaus_Macheck@adobeforums.com


Is it a possibility for Photoshop to "recognize" a larger mousepointer
and to use the old routine in this case for us Universal access users?

You can imagine working with a highres screen makes it almost a
necessity enlarging your pointers. That applys to PS, Illustrator, Indesign, etc.
Even Apple Mail.

Nikolaus

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TOPIC: Help with unexpected change color
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/354d81cbaaccd9aa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 4:38 am
From: Tom_adobeuser@adobeforums.com


Thank you, G. Ballard, you have a solid knowledge.
Sorry my ignorance but what is a tagged and untagged image? Don't find a decent answer in the search engines.

And finally... in my opinion, Adobe have like Apple those things that I named: SILLY POLICY FOR USERS... for years and in the name of "modern advanced technologies", Apple and Adobe changes and remove USEFUL features in old versions and replace it (OR NOT) with another different that is new but is not useful or in some cases useless. This is annoying and you lost excellent features. Before I post examples, the solution is to make the changes optional but not remove it.
Ok, I understand that very old features must be remove it, but let me explain:
This is a list of remove it features of Adobe from Dreamweaver CS3 thru CS4:

Deprecated features (Adobe named in this way)
The following features have been deprecated for Dreamweaver CS4:
• Timelines
• Web services
• Layout mode
• Site Map view
• Java Bean support
• Adobe® Flash elements (Image Viewer)
• Adobe® Flash text and Adobe® Flash buttons
ASP.NET and JSP server behaviors and recordsets

In my opinion is SILLY to remove Layout mode... that works with tables. Ok, they want to move the users to use DIVS instead of Tables... but Fireworks create navigation bars using LAYOUT MODE and Fireworks can't gives an output after slicing in DIVs like Photoshop do it. (using save for the web workflow). Removing Site Map view is silly also and don't see a replace feature. This is the case of "more "professional" more silly". Removing Adobe® Flash text and Adobe® Flash buttons on CS4 is very annoying and is not a good decision.

Apple: The most annoying, for me, of the "Apple Cats"'s Operating System is Leopard... Apple remove the classical use of dock in Tiger and add the horrible and silly STACKS that nobody like it... Apple never fix the refresh bug... after saving a file you need to navigate and renavigate to force the finder to show where is the new created file. Sometimes works the refresh and sometimes don't.
Probably in the next release, Snow Leopard, Apple will remove Rosetta and Carbon and there's A LOT of useful applications that will be lost for ever because the developers are tired of the unpredictable changes at the last time from Apple and don't upgrade to the next Cat generation.
My question now is: This Profile's problem (that begins this discussion) in Adobe Photoshop CS4, WHY doesn't appears in CS3 or CS2? Do you think is for this silly policies?

Sorry my large post.
Thank you.
Tom

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TOPIC: Curves adjustmentlayer in cs4, are there any way to get it to work like
in cs3?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/68839d735a863e44?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 5:18 am
From: einar@adobeforums.com


what I dont get is why there arent a legacy button like on levels. The legasy on levels werent even usefull, can just use curves instead if u want it to clip the shadows/highlights.. Lets start a campain for legasy option on adjustment layers!!!


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 12:11 pm
From: Doug_Katz@adobeforums.com


I'm sorry that I didn't read this entire thread. So if this was raised already g, please just ignore.

If I double click (not option, command, or shift, just plain double click) on a slider's NAME in the Selective Color ADJUSTMENT panel, the setting for that color jumps back to 0. This is not happening for you?

(Oh, and did I mention I've not read this entire thread?)


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 2:37 pm
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


> double click on a slider's NAME in the Selective Color ADJUSTMENT panel,
the setting for that color jumps back to 0


Viola! Doug you know your stuff, that is very helpful...


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 2:50 pm
From: Doug_Katz@adobeforums.com


(... and I didn't even read the entire thread....)


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 2:59 pm
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


I don't want to ask how you know that...

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TOPIC: Adobe Photoshop 3.0 (Mac) Serial Number Input Problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/931713f19535a550?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 5:37 am
From: "Nini Tjäder"


Ann,
actually, they have been stuck on to the CD-case.

I am looking at some right now. It is on standalone GoLive 6 and on standalone Illustrator 10 aaand standalone InDesign 2 (not CS2, 2),and standalone Photoshop 7. A twin-sticker with labels than can be peeled off to be placed elsewhere. (Yeah I have all those standalones still laying around). Above those 2 labels it says "The serial number labels below are for your convenience. Affix them in a safe place for future reference. After installing this software, you will need your serial number for accessing technical support and for purchasing upgrades" . So yes, serialnumber actually were stuck to the cd-case.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 7:45 am
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com


actually, they have been stuck on to the CD-case.


That's precisely what Ann has been saying. The label is on the case, not the disc itself. :)

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TOPIC: UK tech support - or any support?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/fb0ba6cebbee93e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 6:37 am
From: W._B._van_de_Weg@adobeforums.com


UK tech support - or any support?

How to I contact a real person at adobe UK?

Maybe you could try: english-custserv@adobe.com

Best wishes,

Zonnetje


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 7:48 am
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com


Better late than never, I suppose. The last post before yours in this thread is half a year old. ;)


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 8:13 am
From: W._B._van_de_Weg@adobeforums.com


Sorry, I did not know that, I have just read this topic. But I think maybe it can be helpful currently for other people who are looking for contact too.

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TOPIC: Photoshop performance on new Mac Pro "Nehalem"
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/51c1421c634f2c2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 6:43 am
From: PShock@adobeforums.com


Allen-

I agree with you that the base model isn't the best value from a dollar-to-performance perspective ($2500 is a lot of money for a hamstrung machine), but I can't go along with "not acceptable", especially since you insist on speaking for "us". You don't represent anyone - speak for you, not me. :)

To be honest, I don't think any of the new Mac Pros are a good value. When the original Mac Pros were introduced, they were actually cheaper than the cost of a comparable home-built Win box using the same (then new), processors. (a big factor that pushed me to buy) Not so with the current line-up, by a long shot.

I really can't understand Apple's pricing scheme. For the Dual 8 Core, Apple wants an additional $1400 to go from 2.26 GHz to 2.66. The same processor (x 2) from Newegg can be had is $576 (not to mention you're not buying from nothing, but swapping a part - Apple still has the 2.26 CPUs to sell) The 2.93GHz option will add $2600 to the order. Newegg? Less than $1200 for the pair.

All I can say is I'm very glad I'm not in the market for a new machine right now.

Man, your right - I haven't checked prices in while but RAM is crazy cheap right now. 16GB for the new Mac Pro for less than $300 from OWC? Wow. (I paid $400 for 2x1GB when my Mac Pro was new) On the other extreme, the 4GB chips are crazy expensive.

OWC
2GB x 8 = $290
4GB x 8 = $5, 000

Yikes! Even if it does become possible to use 4GB chips on the base model (nothing I've seen so far suggests it will), it wouldn't make financial sense anyway.

and most consumer-level Mac users don't even know what eSATA is.


More and more external HDs are coming with USB and eSATA as standard. I agree that Apple needs to jump on the eSATA train. I wouldn't they're "stupid" at this point, but they're getting there.

-phil


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 7:56 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com


Hard to love the new MacPros


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 8:26 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Phil-

I agree with you that the base model isn't the best value from a dollar-to-performance
perspective ($2500 is a lot of money for a hamstrung machine), but I can't
go along with "not acceptable"


Probably I was intentionally too polemic with my verbiage (to emphasize how strongly I feel that about buying a new MP limited to 8 GB), and we really only disagree about the semantics. You say "isn't the best value" and I say "unacceptable from a life cycle analysis standpoint."

Certainly I agree that the 8 GB MP box would be totally acceptable if one does not have to pay too much for it. That should be obvious since I did list the much weaker new Mini as worthy of consideration.

since you insist on speaking for "us". You don't represent anyone - speak
for you, not me.


Often the language I use includes the editorial "we," and most of my posts have IMO in them anyway so IMO :) you need to just get over it.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 8:25 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Easy to love the new MacPros. Hard to love the price of the new MacPros, but IMO that is just Apple's classic (very successful) skim-the-cream pricing model in action.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 8:29 am
From: Allen_Wicks@adobeforums.com


Lundberg-

Easy? In what way?


What I said was eSATA is easy on Mac Pros and Macbook Pros, and it is easy. All pro Macs either have access to eSATA via PCI or via EC/34.

Also I said Making it also easy on consumer Macs would just cannibalize sales of Pro Macs. Of course, many folks would like to be able to configure a cheap desktop Mac with full Mac Pro capabilities but that is not IMO logically in Apple's best interest.

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TOPIC: Ref: Text Resolution from Photoshop... High or Low Resolution ?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/46c96f2e4c00c341?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 10:38 am
From: John_Danek@adobeforums.com


My concern ( and yours ) is the amount of enlargement. If you set your text in Photoshop and it remained 100% for life, there shouldn't be any issues as long as the final halftone screen is fine enough to handle the text detail. For instance, newsprint text at 10pt would not be easily read using an 85 lpi halftone screen ( depending on your file's density ). But, your file is on its way to being enlarged 400%, you have to set the resolution to compenstae for that enlargement, otherwise the file ( sans text ) itself will pixelate and could end up around 75ppi ( from 300ppi @ 100% ). Your file should have a resolution of 1200ppi, then if you enlarge it 400%, you'll end up with 300ppi, and with a halftone screen of 150lpi, your text should be razor sharp.

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TOPIC: CS4 Cropping Problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/007d0035910306a3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 11:22 am
From: David_Garrett@adobeforums.com


As suggested, cleared the fields and left them blank. Seems back to usual.

Thanks for all the help.

David

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TOPIC: GPU enhancement issues with ATI Radeon X1900 XT
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/867b9fd5220134db?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 11:44 am
From: Tom_Coggia@adobeforums.com


I'm having a slightly different problem, but it fits in with what others are saying. I upgraded to CS4 the other day, and starting that night my system (a Mac Pro with the Radeon x1900 card) I have had issues with my display - that is, sometimes the display won't work after waking from sleep. The display is a 23" Cinema.

The rest of the system is fine (I have a laptop so I can peek in and control it remotely), and everything is just as I left it. The display itself responds to being turned on and off using the power button on the side (that is, the tiny light on the front turns on and off...). But the screen itself is pitch black, off entirely.

I took out the video card and it was, indeed, black on the intake with fine dust, so I cleaned that as best I could. That did not solve the problem, however.

Pull the plug to my desktop and plug it into my laptop, and it works just fine. Plug it back into the desktop...dead. The only thing that seems to fix it is shutting it down for a time. I don't know how long is required but it's more than a few minutes (so it's not a simple reset) and it's only been a few days and so far I've just gotten frustrated and left it over night - so it certainly could be related to cooling down.

Seems like Adobe is the culprit as the problem has *never* happened before, and has happened every day since the very day I installed CS4. I'd be reluctant to believe it...if I hadn't spent hours just upgrading to CS4 (I won't go into the legendary problems which plague Adobe's installers).

Given that when I bought this system a couple of years ago this was one of the few video cards I could choose, and it's the high-end of the bunch, there must be a lot of folks out there with this set-up plus CS4...

Sounds like the suggestion is to inhibit performance in CS4 so it doesn't fry my video card? I am running Temperature Monitor, but it doesn't show me that particular stat...


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 12:00 pm
From: Tom_Coggia@adobeforums.com


An additional note...some time ago I tried to run the only update I've ever found for this card:
<http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/MacX1900G5updater.aspx>
which was released years ago, January of 2007.
But when I run the installer, I get a message that states:
This product is intended only for Dual Core Power Mac G5 systems. A different system has been detected.

And it won't install.

But that's exactly the type of system I have... Further reading of the release notes seems to describe my system exactly (which would make sense, since Apple offered this card and this system together).

Don't know if it means anything...but there it is.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 2:47 pm
From: PShock@adobeforums.com


Are you sure you have a G5 and not a Mac Pro? What is the processor description when you select "About this Mac" from the Apple menu?

The only machine you could order with the ATI 1900 was a Mac Pro. The video card became available for a G5 AFTER the Mac Pro introduction and even then, it was a separate purchase.

-phil

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TOPIC: Printing One to One
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/030bab8fa4827cc0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 12:43 pm
From: David_Parkhurst@adobeforums.com


I could use some assistance trying to figure out how I can print a image at one to one so that the print is at size as. I believe there is a quick way of calculating this but unsure where to begin.
My images will include a ruler as a reference point and the goal is to have a print so the ruler reproduces at its actual size.
Thanks!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 2:43 pm
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com


Ps> Image> Image Size: Document Size height/width will give you your One size

Those sizes will translate to your print (if you set 100% or something similar in your print utility)...

Get a copy of: Real World Scanning Halftones by David Blatner

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TOPIC: Picture Package FUBAR
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/d6db57d9287cb09e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 8 2009 12:54 pm
From: David_Garrett@adobeforums.com


Thanks Steve, and everyone else.

The Layouts folder was the crux of the biscuit. All the layouts now show up in PP. I've saved a copy of the folder in the CS4 folder, just in case...

Cheers


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