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Today's topics:
* Brooks Institute - 12 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/6660e6750a10dca2?hl=en
* Where were you? (part four) - 9 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ab8c6a7a2987240a?hl=en
* Panorama advice sought - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/f90c1f4673be69b6?hl=en
* Self-Publishing - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/8f54dd949eedb203?hl=en
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TOPIC: Brooks Institute
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/6660e6750a10dca2?hl=en
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Mar 13 2009 9:27 pm
From: pfigen
Fred,
That's a very good description. Even when looking straight down, you don't feel a real sense of height. I did notice that when we got fairly close, they were careful to have one a few feet higher than the other. Less chance of a rotor hit that way.
I don't have the images at home to post, but Benny was shooting with a home made 8 x 10 aerial camera with a 300mm Nikkor Aerial flat field lens. His assistant was belted in, but the shoulder harnesses on these were on inertial reels, so you could move around a bit.
We basically did circles around the other helicopter and every time we turned south, we'd hit this little pocket where the copter would drop several feet and twist just a bit. The pilot would announce through the headphones - "just a minute here... stabilizing..." After the third or fourth time around I got used to it but the first time sort of took my breath away.
== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:49 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
What a fun shot Peter! Matter of fact this whole thread has been fun to follow.
== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 6:32 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
So I would assume that Linda would not find a helicopter difficult to deal with have you ever been in one Linda?
This is a type of photography you could offer your customers and justify a larger fee for doing so.
And it could be useful if you do it well for their web site.
I would think that flying around i a helicopter is more stable than a small plane.
== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 8:56 am
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com
Helicopters are rocks with engines. No wings. The blades are subject to enormous stresses and any failure. any out of balance problem with the blades in flight guarantees disaster. The pilot can try to windmill down, but as I found out in a seminar put on by National Instruments on blade stress measurements in the air, that produces the maximum amount of stress possible. In fact, the way NI instruments the blades for stress measurements is to fly the chopper, then do a free fall without engine power from 10,000' or so, all the while collecting data. Finally, (hopefully!) the engine power is returned.
So long as a regular plane can stay above stall speed, it can fly. Witness the crash in the Hudson recently. He flew it into the water.
Helicopters are reasonably safe. What I don't like is what happens with power loss.
Give me a Cessna any day!
== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 9:58 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
I got my first job because they needed a new photographer as the last one had been in a helicopter when the rotor sheared-off.
Of course no-one told me that at the interview …
== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 11:06 am
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com
I did helicopter and high wing single engine shots of Portland in the 70's. I definitely preferred the heli for shooting, but I hated every minute I was up there.
The fixed wing, however, was a joy.
I never went back to helicopters, and when a local photographer escaped certain death because the chopper was close enough to ground and the blades still turning, I definitely abandoned flying rocks.
== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 11:11 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
So I would assume that Linda would not find a helicopter difficult to
deal with have you ever been in one Linda?
Never have.
This is a type of photography you could offer your customers and justify
a larger fee for doing so.
I think I've reached a point in my life to where I will stick with what I know. Photography is a nice service to offer on the side but designing websites seems to be what I'm supposed to do. They keep coming to me. I just need to figure out how to keep up with it all.
== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 12:00 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
Did they send you up, Ann?
Not in the literal sense.
Once the people at the air station discovered that i was under 21 (and that they would be held responsible for my safety!) I was "Grounded" and stuck with photographing dead aircraft parts — which was no fun at all and NOT why I had applied for the job in the first place!
:(
== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 12:07 pm
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
LOL Ann!
== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 12:13 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
It wasn't "LOL" at all: I also got stuck with taking Passport/ID photographs and discovered that the nearest "Ladies Room" was a bicycle-ride away from the Photographic Department … on the other side of the airfield!
== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 12:43 pm
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
LOL again. I'm sorry Ann, but the way you tell it makes me laugh. ;-)
== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 3:10 pm
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
:)
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TOPIC: Where were you? (part four)
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/ab8c6a7a2987240a?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:50 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
Nice to see some of your roots Shep.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 6:27 am
From: Wade_Zimmerman@adobeforums.com
Well the house…LOL…is obviously the thing that has influence your attraction to the mundane.
And I might add the desire to add some validity to its reason to exist.
Maybe I should post photos of the area that I grew up in. It did not look like that where shep grew up in but it does look like it now. That is in the South Bronx.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 8:28 am
From: -shep-@adobeforums.com
Well the house…LOL…is obviously the thing that has influence your attraction
to the mundane.
XD
Hey...wait a second! Why...I oughta...! B( Mom...Wade's making' fun of our house!
Growing up in suburbia, ya' know.
(Exits whistling the tune to "Little Boxes".)
:)
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 11:08 am
From: LRK@adobeforums.com
Well the house…LOL…is obviously the thing that has influence your attraction
to the mundane.
What a mean thing to say. A house where you grow up should always hold a special place in your heart, regardless of size or stateliness. The only thing one should be ashamed of is bad manners.
Shep, Loved your response! :-)
The house I was born in was quaint and not that large, but it always holds a special place in my heart.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 1:32 pm
From: Hopper@adobeforums.com
Mine too! I never ceased to be amazed how my parents managed to raise 6 children in what was then a 2 bedroom house! We "finished" the upstairs and put all 4 girls up there, the 2 boys in the one lower room and my parents in the other. All that with only one bathroom too! (at least it was an indoor bathroom ;))
It's a good thing we had a city park just down the street from us. In the summers, when we had to go to a wedding/graduation/christening etc, my mom would send the kids to the pool to use their showers so we could all be ready at once. :D
My old stomping grounds of that park have changed dramatically. The 4 baseball diamonds (if you really could call them that!) are all gone and one soccer field has replaced them. :( It would have been nice to have both fields ...
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 1:42 pm
From: Fred_Nirque@adobeforums.com
From little things, big things grow.....
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:58 pm
From: Kath_Howard3@adobeforums.com
In one of this row of houses (I think, the one on the right, at the end) my maternal grandmother grew up. She was one of eleven children.
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:59 pm
From: Kath_Howard3@adobeforums.com
When my cousin tracked the house down, last year, she found that all the surrounding houses had been knocked down.
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 3:05 pm
From: Hopper@adobeforums.com
OMG, 11 kids in a space that small? Okay, your grandma wins! ;)
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TOPIC: Panorama advice sought
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/f90c1f4673be69b6?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 8:34 am
From: -shep-@adobeforums.com
Thought this would fit in this thread moreso than any other. 300 one minute exposures.
<http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090314.html>
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 10:03 am
From: Ann_Shelbourne@adobeforums.com
Fascinating — including the descriptive text. Thank you so much for posting the Link.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:03 pm
From: Fred_Nirque@adobeforums.com
I'm curious as to why he tripped the shutter over 300 times for a minute at a time instead of just leaving the shutter open? I can't see how the end result would have been any different other than avoiding a stitching-from-hell exercise ;-) .
Seeing this, I reckon pointing a full-circle fisheye lens straight up at the south or north pole and exposing for 24 hours in mid-winter would get the ultimate star trail picture. All lines should be continuous circling around the center of frame with a band of "sunset" 360 degrees around the horizon.
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TOPIC: Self-Publishing
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photography/t/8f54dd949eedb203?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 14 2009 2:00 pm
From: Hopper@adobeforums.com
I was certain that we had a topic on this very subject, but a quick search didn't reveal one.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where one might go to self-publish items? I'm thinking things like blank notecards with a nice photo on the front, notepads, blank journals etc.
Hopper
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