Monday, November 10, 2008

25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

adobe.photoshop.windows
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* embedded profile mismatch - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/8b7b69dca181d23a?hl=en
* VERSION CONTROL**************************** - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/3f61a7bf1aa8d7f6?hl=en
* real tears-- no more 'use Adobe dialogue' - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/3b80243fa648e411?hl=en
* CS4 lag. What graphic card will it take? - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/4eea63c573b83340?hl=en
* PS CS4 opening error message: OWL Orphanage - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/af128c17883ba342?hl=en
* Photoshop is crashing - oplt_ui.dll error - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/65b99b025505f064?hl=en
* Photoshop CS4 is a disaster - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
* Is it possible to protect PDF files from local saving? - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/06eb8e6443ad4853?hl=en
* CS3 stripping the EXIF data - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/b64914f32b377ff5?hl=en
* Gradient edge - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/94a09ef2d9e68022?hl=en
* Cannot install Photoshop CS4 upgrade - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/00e7687189009e0b?hl=en
* Invalid numeric entry - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/df054f4c04ae766d?hl=en
* Photoshop backwards compatibility - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/70eede42d5e965a7?hl=en
* "...file-format module cannot parse the file" Error - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/879cb1d8a42880d6?hl=en
* PS CS4 upgrade install hangs while checking system profile - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c635e4669aa9fcde?hl=en

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TOPIC: embedded profile mismatch
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/8b7b69dca181d23a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 9 2008 11:59 pm
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


Patricia,

Your Spyder profile "works" even if it isn't set as your working space.

The two have very different purposes. The monitor profile is there to "translate" your standard working space to the peculiar particulars of your specific monitor. If you use that as your working space you won't notice anything wrong on your own system, but wait till you try to show your pictures on another computer...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 12:44 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com


In other words, it defeats the whole purpose of calibration.


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TOPIC: VERSION CONTROL****************************
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/3f61a7bf1aa8d7f6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 12:48 am
From: CR_Henderson@adobeforums.com


Buko:Well CR posted after me why is his question before mine?


In what universe is 1:22pm PST later than 2:20pm PST? :)

John Joslin:I think you might have to wind the clock back by un-installing
CS4 and CS3 before you can safely re-install CS2 and then install the
later ones again.


That was my thoughts, too. I don't think it is worth the effort and if I ever change my mind I'll probably just install CS2 on an old laptop I have. It ran fine there a few years ago.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:15 am
From: Buko


When I looked I thought I saw 1:20 must have ben a Sunday thing.

But I was replying to the OP about his deleting earlier versions. and completely missed your question which JJ answered.


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TOPIC: real tears-- no more 'use Adobe dialogue'
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/3b80243fa648e411?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 12:53 am
From: "John Joslin"


allowing the selection of favorite folders


This is possible both in XP and Vista dialogs.

To add a location to the left-hand side of the Open and Save dialog boxes in Vista and XP, use the group policy editor:

Go to Start > Run > gpedit.msc > User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Explorer > Common Open File Dialog

Enable "Items displayed in Places Bar" and type the path to the desired location.


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TOPIC: CS4 lag. What graphic card will it take?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/4eea63c573b83340?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 1:00 am
From: Torben_Bygvraa_Rasmussen@adobeforums.com


CR Henderson: It is entirely possible that PS CS4 would encounter poorly
written areas of a driver particularly if that area of the driver hasn't
been extensively tested.


Yes, that might be one scenario. Nvidia has been on the market with their OpenGL driver for quite some time. Nvidia has has OpenGL support in their CS package for 2 weeks. All blame-passing aside: Do you seriously think Nvidia (or Avira for that matter) is the obvious one to call first?

How do you propose that Avira influences OpenGL performance, when it does not affect 2D performance (seriously - I want to know)? I am assuming that everybody in here aren't using the same AV as I, so you might have to make it a general consideration.

Hypothetically - isn't there a very slight chance that OpenGL programming just isn't Adobe's most powerful asset right now?

In relation to Bridge the CS4 version runs perfectly with all bells and wistles enabled. Thumbnails refresh instantly and the multiview (CTRL/SHIFT+click images) is a joy to use. There is absolutely no problem using OpenGL in that application.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 3:46 am
From: Astrid_Falk@adobeforums.com


Hello,
I got Photoshop CS4 on the 5th of November (I am german). Guess I am one of the first here. My English is not so good, but I want to tell you that I have the same problem as often mentioned in your discussion. I guess, that in the next future many of the german users will have these problems too, when they get the software.
So: my PC runs with XP Pro, has a 3 GH CPU, enough space and 2 GB Ram, Photoshop uses about 1200 MB Ram. I experimented with these settings: no change. Photoshop CS 3 runs without performance problems, as well as Photoshop CS and earlier versions. I updated my NvideaGeforce 7600 GS Card Driver these days, so it runs with the newest driver. I tested these registry keys for older GPUs which are mentioned in this discussion, I tested all, what was recommended here, but it didn't work. Brushes and so on have huge lag, with liquify filter I can not use my Wacom Intuos tablet. But Mouse or Pen Tool, it makes no difference in performance in the other cases.Tearing Windows brings many duplicates on the screen. I also updated the tablet-driver, but it made no difference. The lag is also in the sliders of the adjustmentlayers (very annoying) and also in darken lighten adjustment dialog box. Attemps with OGL open on or off , settings in the advanced settings made no big difference. I sat here hour and hours wasting my time with senseless attempts, all were in vain. AntiVirus enable or not: No change. So I really hope that Adobe brings out an update soon, which solve these problems. Than perhaps I also can appreciate the new functions that Adobe advertised so intensive, but now I feel like I have paid for that I am a Beta Tester – I am disapointed. I took comfort in the fact, that I am not the only person, who has the problems with PS CS4.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 4:08 am
From: "John Joslin"


Astrid

Your English is fine. Better than most of us could do German!

Although posting here in a language other than English is discouraged, there are one or two German speakers here if you get stuck for a word.

You have obviously discovered the variety of problems reported here with slowness and lag in CS4. I can only suggest that you keep checking back for fixes or trouble-shooting help.

Viel Glück!

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:40 am
From: Astrid_Falk@adobeforums.com


John,
Thanks for your friendly message!

For Adam Jerugim
I wrote down the properties of my Computer for a better summary.

PC with Windows XP Pro, Service Pack 3
CPU 3 GH
Hard disk with 160 GB space, partitioned into 3 drives.
8 GB only for temporary files from Photoshop (partition)
Photoshop is installed on another partition
Windows is installed on the third partition
2 GB Ram (1,2 for Photoshop)
Wacom Tablet Intuos 3 with the newest driver
Independet (from Tablet) wireless Mouse with wireless keyboard
Nvidea Geforce 7600 GS with the newest driver
Screen resolution:
1280 x 1024 Pixel, Quality: 32 bit
1 Monitor
Free Anti Virus Personal (disabled it makes no difference)
Free Zone Alarm (disabled it makes no difference)
Bridge is running with good performance (when disabled it makes no difference to Photoshops slow performance)
No other programs run when photoshop is on.


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TOPIC: PS CS4 opening error message: OWL Orphanage
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/af128c17883ba342?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 2:23 am
From: Judith_Lipmanson@adobeforums.com


How did the old plug-in get to the CS4 goodies. Did you copy it from CS3?

Again, it would be nice to have more descriptive/interpretive error messages. I'm beginning to think this is some kind of IQ test.


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TOPIC: Photoshop is crashing - oplt_ui.dll error
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/65b99b025505f064?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 3:29 am
From: paul_elliot@adobeforums.com


hi i use photoshop every day but today i am getting an error when the programme starts and it has to shut down. iv uninstalled it/reinstalled it and restored the computer to last week and its still the same.

the error signature mentions oplt_ui.dll. should i delete this file??
any ideas what the problem is??
cheers

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 3:44 am
From: "John Joslin"


oplt_ui.dll is a OPLT_UI belonging to OKI PCL5c UI Printer Driver from Oki Data Corporation

Google is your friend!


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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 is a disaster
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 3:36 am
From: chris_farrell@adobeforums.com


same...

vista x64
Asus P5Q deluxe
16gb ram
nVidia 8800 gts 640mb
q9650 3ghz
loads of drives
This system only goes online to activate software / download updates.

CS4 runs really well.

There are so many variables.....hard drives / ram / drivers /etc... any bad combination could cause issues.

For those having problems, I'm wondering if it's an OpenGL and Direct X conflict, in some cases, as they're two separate systems that are trying to achieve the same thing. Maybe a Microsoft DirectX update has interfered with OpenGL in some way.


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TOPIC: Is it possible to protect PDF files from local saving?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/06eb8e6443ad4853?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 4:14 am
From: Dave


On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:29:52 -0500, "Evan Deez" <no@thanks.com> wrote:

>Is there any way to protect a PDF file from being downloaded/saved on a
>local computer by an average web surfer? (I realize power surfers know how
>to get *anything* -- even streaming media -- which is why I'm specifying
>"average web surfer").
>
>Like Flash won't let you easily save flash content on your local drive...
>could the same be done with PDF? In other words, just display it (temp file)
>but not allow it to save locally permanently?
>


Nothing, absolute nothing is protected on Internet, Evan, except for
the real (rather under_) 'average web surfer'. The moment you publish
something on Internet, it's world property.

Dave (power surfer:-)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:23 am
From: "Evan Deez"


"Dave" <dave@durbs.sa> wrote in message
news:ne8gh4pcmfpcbogcslfr0pmmc09de8icn1@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 19:29:52 -0500, "Evan Deez" <no@thanks.com> wrote:
>
>>Is there any way to protect a PDF file from being downloaded/saved on a
>>local computer by an average web surfer? (I realize power surfers know how
>>to get *anything* -- even streaming media -- which is why I'm specifying
>>"average web surfer").
>
> Nothing, absolute nothing is protected on Internet, Evan, except for
> the real (rather under_) 'average web surfer'. The moment you publish
> something on Internet, it's world property.

Which is why I went through the trouble of specifying "average web surfer"
and "I realize power surfers know how to get *anything*" -- to avoid the
type of reply you just posted. ;-) Didn't work, though. Heh.



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TOPIC: CS3 stripping the EXIF data
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/b64914f32b377ff5?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:10 am
From: Robert_J_Phillips@adobeforums.com


Everytime I "save for web" my EXIF data is stripped when using CS3.

I have been told to "save as", instead, but that function doesn't allow me to "save as" jpg's. I assume I must be doing something wrong or have an incorrect preference set.

If I am unable to save my EXIF in jpg's using CS3, can I do so, if I upgrade to CS4?

Thank you.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:32 am
From: "Ed Hannigan"


You should be able to Save As. Try flattening first.

Stripping the EXIF data is part of the point of Save for Web.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:31 am
From: "John Joslin"


I have been told to "save as", instead, but that function doesn't allow
me to "save as" jpg's. I assume I must be doing something wrong


will take any file (well, most), flatten any layers and convert to a JPG.

To Save as a JPG, the file must be flattened and 8-bits/channel to get the option.

CS4 Save for Web has more options.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 1:30 pm
From: Bob Levine


That's what save for web does. On the web every byte counts. If JPG is
not in the file save menu it's because you have something going on
that's incompatible with that format...layers, 16 bit, etc.

Bob


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TOPIC: Gradient edge
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/94a09ef2d9e68022?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:11 am
From: Kenneth_Benson@adobeforums.com


Thanks, mylenium

--
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com


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TOPIC: Cannot install Photoshop CS4 upgrade
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/00e7687189009e0b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:19 am
From: Buko


Isn't there a CS4 cleanscript?


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TOPIC: Invalid numeric entry
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/df054f4c04ae766d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:18 am
From: BF.1@adobeforums.com


the error is still there T.T


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TOPIC: Photoshop backwards compatibility
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/70eede42d5e965a7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:25 am
From: Kenneth_Benson@adobeforums.com


I have PS CS2, client has PS CS3. Do I need to ask him to Save As or
Export in some special way so that I can open his PSD file?

I'll upgrade if that's my only choice, but I don't use Photoshop a lot,
and I was hoping to get another few years out of it.

--
Kenneth Benson
Pegasus Type, Inc.
www.pegtype.com


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TOPIC: "...file-format module cannot parse the file" Error
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/879cb1d8a42880d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:32 am
From: Shipengrover__JD@adobeforums.com


I am using PS CS3 Extended on a PC

I keep getting the error...file-format module cannot not parse the file" errors when attempting to open PNG or GIF files that were created using the same version of Photoshop.

I used to have to reboot the machine to get rid of this error - but that is no longer working.

The error is occuring more and more frequently.

I really need to edit these files.

Please tell me how to fix this.

I have seen this error in the forum - but was unable to find a real solution. Rebooting the machine is not really a solution.

Thanks
JD


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TOPIC: PS CS4 upgrade install hangs while checking system profile
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c635e4669aa9fcde?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:33 am
From: Mike_Broomfield@adobeforums.com


Thanks Mylenium. I'm not home this week so I'll have to wait until Friday I think before I can try anything else, but I'll follow up. I have also logged the problem with Adobe Support and I'm waiting to hear from them.

Mike

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