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TOPIC: Scenic areas in England
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/1076be556766c491?hl=en
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Date: Mon, Jun 1 2009 12:53 pm
From: Chris H
In message <h00q84$49u$1@qmul>, whisky-dave <whisky-
dave@final.front.ear> writes
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>"Chris H" <chris@phaedsys.org> wrote in message
>news:AM$GlyJ0dsHKFA7D@phaedsys.demon.co.uk...
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>>>> There is no way in which a nuke is a defensive weapon. It can act as a
>>>> mutual deterrence, but NOT a defense. The more countries that get
>>>> nukes,
>>>> the greater the chance someone will actually USE one.
>>>
>>>I feel the same way about people with guns whether it be police
>>>my friends brother firing in to the air or anyone else.
>>
>> That is your personal insecurity.
>I would feel insecure if they are told to shoot first ask, questions later.
>I also feel insecure enough to look both ways when crossing the road even if
>the lights
>are red although I don;t think being worried by an item that can end your
>live
>qualifies as insecurity.
>I think those that carry guns for self defence are the insecure ones.
It depends who and where.
I have carried a gun for self defence whist on duty in the UK.
but not off duty.
I can see no reason for most civilians to ever carry a gun for self
defence and in the UK it is extremely rare. It is far more common that
they assign an armed detective to you if there is a threat.
>>I don't want a nanny state where
>> anyone who is scared of their own shadow makes the rules fro normal
>> people (and yes I have been shot at and held at gunpoint)
>.
>It's not my shadow I'm scared of.
>A friend of mine was tracked down to a pub and searched by 4 police
>because she was seen taking a photo of Tilsbury power station.
Now that is worrying. What was the excuse the police gave? Not
Terrorism? It is far easier to use google maps or one of the others or
any of the many on-line images. For a real recce you use a mobile phone
camera and make like a tourist.
>Maybe she should have been shot on sight too.
>I guess it was her spanish complection that might have freeked them.
Why didn't you say... no beard was there?
>>>> Press someone hard enough, and they will respond with the strongest
>>>> weapon
>>>> they have.
>>>Yep, and hopefully with a 'weaker' weapon less harm.
>>
>> Not at all. Weaker weapons often cause more harm I would rather be shot
>> than attacked with a knife.
>
>Is that shot once or attacked with a knife or be shot with a sub-machine
>gun.
Either once or an SMG than a knife
>If a knife can be so devastating then why do the majority in the US choose
>a gun as their preferred weapon of self defence, well those that want a
>weapon
>for self defence.
Don't be such an idiot. Go to a casualty and look at the mess a knife
makes.
>> Now no one has any respect for speed limits or the people who enforce
>> them
>
>I wonder why that is then.
Because they are used to raise money not for safety whist the Police are
raising cash they are not stopping the crime that blights the community.
>Perhaps these people have the same respect for others lives,
No there is no link.
> I'd hate
>to give them the right to have a gun, when they show such little respect
>for speed or those enforcing them.
There is absolutely no correlation between the two
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