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* Sizing after Crop - 5 messages, 4 authors
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TOPIC: Sizing after Crop
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 14 2009 10:29 pm
From: Rob
tony cooper wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:00:40 -0700 (PDT), RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I am using Photoshop CS4
>>
>> I have an image that is an 8''x10'' photo and I want it to remain that
>> size. It is an image of a turtle which has to much open space around
>> the turtle so I want to crop it to remove all that open space. Now
>> when I crop it to remove the open space the size of the photo becomes
>> smaller.
>>
>> What is the proper way to now enlarged this cropped image back up to
>> the 8x10 size without causing any loss of quality in the photo? Thanks
>> for your help.
>
> If you have an 8" x 10" photo that you want to crop, but you want the
> resulting size to be 8" x 10", you set your crop tool to 8" x 10" in
> the width and height boxes and the image - less the parts you cropped
> out - will still be 8" x 10". The image will not be smaller.
>
> If you did not specify the crop dimensions when applying the crop, the
> image will be smaller.
>
> If you have already done this, and not saved a copy of the pre-cropped
> image, you can bring it back up to 8" x 10" by resizing the image.
> (Provided that you cropped in a 2:5 ratio) There will be some loss of
> quality, but it may not be noticeable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
btw you should specify the resolution in the box aswell
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 7:04 am
From: Sir F. A. Rien
Rob <mesa@mine.com> found these unused words:
>tony cooper wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:00:40 -0700 (PDT), RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am using Photoshop CS4
>>>
>>> I have an image that is an 8''x10'' photo and I want it to remain that
>>> size. It is an image of a turtle which has to much open space around
>>> the turtle so I want to crop it to remove all that open space. Now
>>> when I crop it to remove the open space the size of the photo becomes
>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> What is the proper way to now enlarged this cropped image back up to
>>> the 8x10 size without causing any loss of quality in the photo? Thanks
>>> for your help.
>>
>> If you have an 8" x 10" photo that you want to crop, but you want the
>> resulting size to be 8" x 10", you set your crop tool to 8" x 10" in
>> the width and height boxes and the image - less the parts you cropped
>> out - will still be 8" x 10". The image will not be smaller.
BUT, there will be fewer pixels
>> If you did not specify the crop dimensions when applying the crop, the
>> image will be smaller.
The only difference is the dpi setting, thus the 'size'.
>> If you have already done this, and not saved a copy of the pre-cropped
>> image, you can bring it back up to 8" x 10" by resizing the image.
>> (Provided that you cropped in a 2:5 ratio) There will be some loss of
>> quality, but it may not be noticeable.
NO loss, if all you set is the dpi - same as the crop tool does after it
removes the unwanted area[s].
IF you resample and try to generate new pixels, there'll be some changes,
but that depends upon the amount of cropping.
Cropping a 4x5 turtle from an 8x10, means you will have 1/4th the original
pixels and thus the image will have less apparent detail when printed at
8x10. Still the -=same=- amount of detail as you started with, just that
you've made it bigger - similar to printing the 8x10 at 16x20.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 8:25 am
From: tony cooper
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:04:56 -0700, Sir F. A. Rien
<jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote:
>Rob <mesa@mine.com> found these unused words:
>
>>tony cooper wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:00:40 -0700 (PDT), RDOC <rdoc2@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am using Photoshop CS4
>>>>
>>>> I have an image that is an 8''x10'' photo and I want it to remain that
>>>> size. It is an image of a turtle which has to much open space around
>>>> the turtle so I want to crop it to remove all that open space. Now
>>>> when I crop it to remove the open space the size of the photo becomes
>>>> smaller.
>>>>
>>>> What is the proper way to now enlarged this cropped image back up to
>>>> the 8x10 size without causing any loss of quality in the photo? Thanks
>>>> for your help.
>>>
>>> If you have an 8" x 10" photo that you want to crop, but you want the
>>> resulting size to be 8" x 10", you set your crop tool to 8" x 10" in
>>> the width and height boxes and the image - less the parts you cropped
>>> out - will still be 8" x 10". The image will not be smaller.
>
>BUT, there will be fewer pixels
You really want to confuse the guy with this? He wants to crop an 8"
x 10" to 8" x 10" by deleting unwanted extra area. The above does
that. Assuming the original is sharp, he has a sharp new image that
is a better composition.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 9:05 am
From: Bob LaBlawgh
tony cooper wrote:
>
>
> You really want to confuse the guy with this? He wants to crop an 8"
> x 10" to 8" x 10" by deleting unwanted extra area. The above does
> that. Assuming the original is sharp, he has a sharp new image that
> is a better composition.
>
Yes, but it won't have the same amount of information, therefore it
won't be of the same quality, in precise quantifiable terms. However, if
the original is sharp enough, the difference may not be discernible to
the average naked eye.
It's kinda like HDTV. Most people can't tell the difference between 720p
and 1080i although there is a quantifiable difference.
--
Bob LaBlawgh
"It's never too late to have a happy childhood."
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 3:18 pm
From: Sir F. A. Rien
Bob LaBlawgh <fake@nothing.de.au> found these unused words:
>tony cooper wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You really want to confuse the guy with this? He wants to crop an 8"
>> x 10" to 8" x 10" by deleting unwanted extra area. The above does
>> that. Assuming the original is sharp, he has a sharp new image that
>> is a better composition.
>>
>
>Yes, but it won't have the same amount of information, therefore it
>won't be of the same quality, in precise quantifiable terms. However, if
>the original is sharp enough, the difference may not be discernible to
>the average naked eye.
>
>It's kinda like HDTV. Most people can't tell the difference between 720p
>and 1080i although there is a quantifiable difference.
As with -=any=- resolution, the viewer's distance from the display plays a
major role.
A cropped original that would have printed at, say, 400 dpi, now printing
at, say, 250 dpi is still close to the resolution of the medium.
A viewer at 10' can hardly discern the details between 720p and 1080p.
Note that 1080i is actually LESS vertical resolution than720p !!!
Now, put on a 15' x 26' sheet, then the audience can see the differences
between 720p and 1080p.
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TOPIC: Recommendation for a colour printer
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 15 2009 2:28 pm
From: Les Desser
In article <140620091635526313%HP@snotmail.com>, High Priest
<HP@snotmail.com> Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:35:52 writes
>Les, there was apparently much interest in this topic so I and maybe
>the other correspondents would be interested to read a postscript. What
>did he buy, how did it perform etc.
Thanks for all the input. I will try and find out and report back
--
Les Desser
(The Reply-to address IS valid)
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