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TOPIC: IrfanView Thumbnails- PaintShop Pro images?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 7:09 am
From: j. calster

On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:45:22 GMT, REMbranded@netscape.com (REM) wrote:

>
>>Terry Pinnell <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to use IrfanView Thumbnails to browse a folder of files
>>made with PaintShop Pro 8, but they're all black. I'm sure there's
>>some setting or plug-in to fix this but darned if I can find it ;-(
>
>>Can someone remind me please?
>
>Are the PSP files in a standard format, such as .jpg, .bmp., etc?
>
>Or, are they in the proprietary PSP format? I don't know what that
>extension ism but I wouldn't be surprised if other programs cannot
>open or convert.
>

IrfanView and Photoline can both read Paint Shop Pro image formats.

In IrfanView the coding to view/read .PSP and .PSPIMAGE files is contained
in the "Formats.dll" plugin, usually downloaded in the complete plugins
pack.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 8:00 am
From: "mianileng"

REM wrote:
>> "mianileng" <mianileng@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>> I'm trying to use IrfanView Thumbnails to browse a folder of
>>> files
>>> made with PaintShop Pro 8, but they're all black. I'm sure
>>> there's
>>> some setting or plug-in to fix this but darned if I can find
>>> it
>>> ;-(
>
>>> Can someone remind me please?
>
>> I don't have any PSP image to test with, but my installation
>> of
>> Irfanview 4.23 with plugins lists the Paint Shop Pro extension
>> .PSP among compatible formats.
>
> http://www.irfanview.com/plugins.htm
>
Yep. It was negligent of me not to provide the link in my
previous post.

> Man. I really only used it to resize images. They have plugins
> galore.
>
> There is a link to get all plugins in one installation file.
> I'll have
> to grab that the next time I have high speed.

I feel for you. It's only a little over a year since I first
started using broadband. Downloads like the 7MB Irfanview plugin
seem trivial now even on my modest 2 Mbps connection, but I well
remember how huge it seemed on dial-up.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:46 am
From: Terry Pinnell

REMbranded@netscape.com (REM) wrote:

>
>> "mianileng" <mianileng@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>> I'm trying to use IrfanView Thumbnails to browse a folder of
>>> files
>>> made with PaintShop Pro 8, but they're all black. I'm sure
>>> there's
>>> some setting or plug-in to fix this but darned if I can find it
>>> ;-(
>
>>> Can someone remind me please?
>
>>I don't have any PSP image to test with, but my installation of
>>Irfanview 4.23 with plugins lists the Paint Shop Pro extension
>>.PSP among compatible formats.
>
>http://www.irfanview.com/plugins.htm
>
>Man. I really only used it to resize images. They have plugins galore.
>
>There is a link to get all plugins in one installation file. I'll have
>to grab that the next time I have high speed.
>

Thanks all. It's odd, as I do have the full plug-in set. I haven't
included .PSPimage in my IrfanView associations (I open them for
editing in PSP 8) but that shouldn't affect IV's ability to view them.
Yet whatever method I use (Open With, drag, etc) they just appear
black.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:15 am
From: Terry Pinnell

Terry Pinnell <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>REMbranded@netscape.com (REM) wrote:
>
>>
>>> "mianileng" <mianileng@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>Terry Pinnell wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to use IrfanView Thumbnails to browse a folder of
>>>> files
>>>> made with PaintShop Pro 8, but they're all black. I'm sure
>>>> there's
>>>> some setting or plug-in to fix this but darned if I can find it
>>>> ;-(
>>
>>>> Can someone remind me please?
>>
>>>I don't have any PSP image to test with, but my installation of
>>>Irfanview 4.23 with plugins lists the Paint Shop Pro extension
>>>.PSP among compatible formats.
>>
>>http://www.irfanview.com/plugins.htm
>>
>>Man. I really only used it to resize images. They have plugins galore.
>>
>>There is a link to get all plugins in one installation file. I'll have
>>to grab that the next time I have high speed.
>>
>
>Thanks all. It's odd, as I do have the full plug-in set. I haven't
>included .PSPimage in my IrfanView associations (I open them for
>editing in PSP 8) but that shouldn't affect IV's ability to view them.
>Yet whatever method I use (Open With, drag, etc) they just appear
>black.

OK, sorted thanks. This has caught me out before and I'd forgotten.
IrfanView cannot render PSP files with layers. The batch I was trying
were all freshly created text on a black background.

When I merged all layers together, IV could display them.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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TOPIC: Ford, The Survivor
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/6854901652467a29?hl=en
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 7:12 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 05:33:21 -0700, "Peter" <peternew@nospamoptonline.net> said:

> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009051520202050073-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking
>> like a survivor, here is a little salute.
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Savageduck
>>
>
>
> Here is a garage door opener, originally designed for a bike that will
> work fine on that car too.
>
> http://www.wimp.com/garageopener

Mine broke about 18 months ago.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 7:48 am
From: "Matt Clara"

"Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
news:2009051520202050073-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking like a
> survivor, here is a little salute.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>
>

A lot of credit goes to Ford--they got in financial trouble in the early
2000s, restructured, and now they're doing fine. Last I heard, they
actually turned down free money from the government.
Plus, it's my understanding that their line of cars in Europe is fairly
popular. Their mistake, as far as I can tell from my armchair, was assuming
those cars wouldn't sell well here in the US.

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 8:24 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 07:48:34 -0700, "Matt Clara" <none@myexpense.com> said:

> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009051520202050073-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking
>> like a survivor, here is a little salute.
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>
>>
>
> A lot of credit goes to Ford--they got in financial trouble in the
> early 2000s, restructured, and now they're doing fine. Last I heard,
> they actually turned down free money from the government.
> Plus, it's my understanding that their line of cars in Europe is fairly
> popular. Their mistake, as far as I can tell from my armchair, was
> assuming those cars wouldn't sell well here in the US.

I have a feeling the US market will actually be more willing to accept
some of the Euro-Fords now. I think Ford was trying too hard to
differentiate between the markets and protect the illusion of the
"American" vehicle.
Leaving some of the current Euro-Fords off US show room floors was a
mistake soon to be rectified.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:34 am
From: "Frank ess"

Savageduck wrote:
> On 2009-05-15 23:27:25 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:
>
>> On 2009-05-15 23:18:10 -0700, "David J. Littleboy"
>> <davidjl@gol.com> said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>
>>> Huh? I thought they were black? You camera's got _serious_ color
>>> rendition problems<g>.
>>
>> No! Model-T was the Ford of "You can have it in any color, as long
>> as
>> it is black."
>>
>> This is a Model A, which was offered in various color options, but
>> not black http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_A_(1927-1931)
>
> ...but if you want black, I found this parked in town last week:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0509.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0508.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0511.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0507.JPG

I found this parked at the Mount Soledad Veterans' Memorial:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3526509044_d2e4b1ef46_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3556/3513412227_28c5035e61_o.jpg

And again, at Mission Bay De Anza Cove:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/3495320109_7deda89d9a_o.jpg

It's black, too.

--
Frank ess

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:35 am
From: Alan Browne

Savageduck wrote:
> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking like
> a survivor, here is a little salute.
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg

Nice. It's very hard shooting cars in bright sunlight. Contrasts,
reflections, color shifts in the auto paint, shadows rendering blue,
etc. Why car adverts are usually shot in a studio with even-diffuse
lighting.

Is that a GPS on the dash? Wow! Ford was really ahead of its time!

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== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:47 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 09:34:45 -0700, "Frank ess" <frank@fshe2fs.com> said:

>
>
> Savageduck wrote:
>> On 2009-05-15 23:27:25 -0700, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:
>>> On 2009-05-15 23:18:10 -0700, "David J. Littleboy"
>>> <davidjl@gol.com> said:
>>>>
>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Huh? I thought they were black? You camera's got _serious_ color
>>>> rendition problems<g>.
>>>
>>> No! Model-T was the Ford of "You can have it in any color, as long
>>> as it is black."
>>>
>>> This is a Model A, which was offered in various color options, but
>>> not black http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_A_(1927-1931)
>>
>> ...but if you want black, I found this parked in town last week:
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0509.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0508.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0511.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0507.JPG
>
> I found this parked at the Mount Soledad Veterans' Memorial:
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3566/3526509044_d2e4b1ef46_o.jpg
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3556/3513412227_28c5035e61_o.jpg
> And again, at Mission Bay De Anza Cove:
> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3638/3495320109_7deda89d9a_o.jpg
> It's black, too.

Too Ford traditional.

Were you driving it or stalking it?

...and I call your black with my black at Morro Bay.
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/S600%40MorroBay.jpg
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:51 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 09:35:39 -0700, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> said:

> Savageduck wrote:
>> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking
>> like a survivor, here is a little salute.
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>
> Nice. It's very hard shooting cars in bright sunlight. Contrasts,
> reflections, color shifts in the auto paint, shadows rendering blue,
> etc. Why car adverts are usually shot in a studio with even-diffuse
> lighting.

...and therein lies the beauty of shooting in RAW.
>
> Is that a GPS on the dash? Wow! Ford was really ahead of its time!

I was thinking that myself. You'd think he'd know his way around by now.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:52 am
From: Alan Browne

Matt Clara wrote:
> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
> news:2009051520202050073-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking
>> like a survivor, here is a little salute.
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>
>>
>
> A lot of credit goes to Ford--they got in financial trouble in the early
> 2000s, restructured, and now they're doing fine. Last I heard, they
> actually turned down free money from the government.
> Plus, it's my understanding that their line of cars in Europe is fairly
> popular. Their mistake, as far as I can tell from my armchair, was
> assuming those cars wouldn't sell well here in the US.

Ford borrowed a lot of cash a few years ago as part of that
restructuring so the cash on hand (that they are still burning at about
1.5 - 2B / quarter) is not their own. They recently paid back a chunk
of that cash to reduce overall borrowing costs.

So, they have not been any more brilliant than the other 2 idiots in
Detroit, they just borrowed a lot of cash when they could.

That money was supposed to be spent on a variety of things, including
new model development, some factory re-tooling, marketing and so on.
Instead it is mostly being used as blood while the co. continues to
hemmorage, albeit less than last year.

Ford suffers from the same problems as the other 2 idiots: Too many
models, too many dealerships and 2nd class quality. The other 2 idiots
have been forced to address that (Pontiac is shutting down and Hummer
and Saturn are close behind). This past week, GM and Chrysler announced
nearly 2000 dealerships that will have their agreements canceled by year
end. (And the lawsuits are about to fly...).

I am impressed by the spec of the Fusion Hybrid, need to see what that
will really be like. The US co's do not grok hybrid like Toyota and
Honda. The Fusion Hybrid might be the turning point in US Hybrids, at
least for Ford.

What really ticks me off is the recent advert campaign by Ford claiming
quality equal to Honda. This confused the heck out of me until I found
the claim basis: the defect rate in the first 90 days. Well, whenever I
want to buy a car for 90 days, I'll certainly consider Ford.

The 4 companies at the lowest defect rate in the first 3 years of
ownership are: Lexus, Accura, Toyota and Honda. I've had Honda's since
1989 and compared to everyone I know with all other vehicles, I have a
nuisance free life with Honda. They do not seem to break often. (I
have had a few things, but all minor and east to fix w/o going to a
garage. -oh, recently a problem with the EGR, bought the part and will
have it changed at the next oil change. Very awkward position to access
with my tools, so I'll let a mechanic do it.

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:13 am
From: Alan Browne

Savageduck wrote:
> On 2009-05-15 23:27:25 -0700, Savageduck
> <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:
>
>> On 2009-05-15 23:18:10 -0700, "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com>
>> said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>
>>> Huh? I thought they were black? You camera's got _serious_ color
>>> rendition
>>> problems<g>.
>>
>> No! Model-T was the Ford of "You can have it in any color, as long as
>> it is black."
>>
>> This is a Model A, which was offered in various color options, but not
>> black
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_A_(1927-1931)
>
> ...but if you want black, I found this parked in town last week:
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0509.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0508.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0511.JPG
> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0507.JPG

Could you at least post these reduced to about 1600 x 1000 pixels?

You complain about Flash BW, but then you post monster JPG's that don't
look particularly good until reduced to less than screen size...

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:26 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 09:52:26 -0700, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> said:

> Matt Clara wrote:
>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009051520202050073-savageduck1REMOVESPAM@mecom...
>>> Well since Ford is the only one of the Big 3, even remotely looking
>>> like a survivor, here is a little salute.
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>
>> A lot of credit goes to Ford--they got in financial trouble in the
>> early 2000s, restructured, and now they're doing fine. Last I heard,
>> they actually turned down free money from the government.
>> Plus, it's my understanding that their line of cars in Europe is fairly
>> popular. Their mistake, as far as I can tell from my armchair, was
>> assuming those cars wouldn't sell well here in the US.
>
> Ford borrowed a lot of cash a few years ago as part of that
> restructuring so the cash on hand (that they are still burning at about
> 1.5 - 2B / quarter) is not their own. They recently paid back a chunk
> of that cash to reduce overall borrowing costs.
>
> So, they have not been any more brilliant than the other 2 idiots in
> Detroit, they just borrowed a lot of cash when they could.
>
> That money was supposed to be spent on a variety of things, including
> new model development, some factory re-tooling, marketing and so on.
> Instead it is mostly being used as blood while the co. continues to
> hemmorage, albeit less than last year.
>
> Ford suffers from the same problems as the other 2 idiots: Too many
> models, too many dealerships and 2nd class quality. The other 2 idiots
> have been forced to address that (Pontiac is shutting down and Hummer
> and Saturn are close behind). This past week, GM and Chrysler
> announced nearly 2000 dealerships that will have their agreements
> canceled by year end. (And the lawsuits are about to fly...).
>
> I am impressed by the spec of the Fusion Hybrid, need to see what that
> will really be like. The US co's do not grok hybrid like Toyota and
> Honda. The Fusion Hybrid might be the turning point in US Hybrids, at
> least for Ford.
>
> What really ticks me off is the recent advert campaign by Ford claiming
> quality equal to Honda. This confused the heck out of me until I found
> the claim basis: the defect rate in the first 90 days. Well, whenever
> I want to buy a car for 90 days, I'll certainly consider Ford.
>
> The 4 companies at the lowest defect rate in the first 3 years of
> ownership are: Lexus, Accura, Toyota and Honda. I've had Honda's since
> 1989 and compared to everyone I know with all other vehicles, I have a
> nuisance free life with Honda. They do not seem to break often. (I
> have had a few things, but all minor and east to fix w/o going to a
> garage. -oh, recently a problem with the EGR, bought the part and will
> have it changed at the next oil change. Very awkward position to
> access with my tools, so I'll let a mechanic do it.

I have been lucky with mechanical problems with vehicles I have owned.
My Ford list includes a Cortina GT?(just a lot of fun!!), a Contour,
which i re-contoured after falling asleep at the wheel after a 16 hour
shift!
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_14.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_12.JPG
http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Ford_08.jpg (note the lowered
suspension!)
and an Escape, which my step-daughter from Hell has commandeered, and
has over 200K on the clock, and only a stone chipped windshield, tires
and brakes to replace.
I have also owned Subarus (2), a Datsun, a VW Beetle, a BMW 5 series
and of all things a FIAT 2300 which was a great problem free car.
I have become a Mercedes lover, with first a 560SEL, then an S600 coupe
(I loved that V12 until the AC compressor died and the $2800 fix and
gas prices goaded me to trade it) and now for the last 18 months I have
owned an E350, which has been trouble free.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:33 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 10:13:48 -0700, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> said:

> Savageduck wrote:
>> On 2009-05-15 23:27:25 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:
>>
>>> On 2009-05-15 23:18:10 -0700, "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Huh? I thought they were black? You camera's got _serious_ color rendition
>>>> problems<g>.
>>>
>>> No! Model-T was the Ford of "You can have it in any color, as long as
>>> it is black."
>>>
>>> This is a Model A, which was offered in various color options, but not black
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_A_(1927-1931)
>>
>> ...but if you want black, I found this parked in town last week:
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0509.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0508.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0511.JPG
>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0507.JPG
>
> Could you at least post these reduced to about 1600 x 1000 pixels?
>
> You complain about Flash BW, but then you post monster JPG's that don't
> look particularly good until reduced to less than screen size...

OK! OK! Mea Culpa.
I was lazy and was looking for a quick response for David.

BTW I have no particular personal issue with Flash, but I know there
are some here who have broadband issues, and I apologize to them for my
fat Jag post.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:38 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 10:33:36 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:

> On 2009-05-16 10:13:48 -0700, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@Freelunchvideotron.ca> said:
>
>> Savageduck wrote:
>>> On 2009-05-15 23:27:25 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> said:
>>>
>>>> On 2009-05-15 23:18:10 -0700, "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Savageduck" <savageduck1{REMOVESPAM}@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0597c.jpg
>>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0604c.jpg
>>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/ModelA_0605c.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? I thought they were black? You camera's got _serious_ color rendition
>>>>> problems<g>.
>>>>
>>>> No! Model-T was the Ford of "You can have it in any color, as long as
>>>> it is black."
>>>>
>>>> This is a Model A, which was offered in various color options, but not black
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_A_(1927-1931)
>>>
>>> ...but if you want black, I found this parked in town last week:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0509.JPG
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0508.JPG
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0511.JPG
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSC_0507.JPG
>>
>> Could you at least post these reduced to about 1600 x 1000 pixels?
>>
>> You complain about Flash BW, but then you post monster JPG's that don't
>> look particularly good until reduced to less than screen size...
>
> OK! OK! Mea Culpa.
> I was lazy and was looking for a quick response for David.
>
> BTW I have no particular personal issue with Flash, but I know there
> are some here who have broadband issues, and I apologize to them for my
> fat Jag post.

...but other than that, what did you think of the XK120?
--
Regards,
Savageduck

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TOPIC: The DELL 2209WA Any good..
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 8:49 am
From: "botox"

As it is a Dell it is probably made by someone else and marketed under
several brand names.
As it is a Dell its particular model number and external packaging will
disappear but the innards themselves will re-emerge as a "new" model.

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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:03 am
From: "Ron Wood"

Hi Group

Have just bought/tried a Polarizing Filter from that well known auction
site:

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=52+52MM+CPL+Circular+Polarizing+filter+for+Hoya+Kenko&_sacat=See-All-CategoriesBut not much effect, should I have bought a special filter suitable forDSLR?I have a Cokin Filter Holder (A) but was reluctant to spend £30+ until alittle more knowledgable.Any suggestions?TIA, Ron

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:07 am
From: eNo

On May 15, 1:50 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:29 +0100, "nigel" <ni...@NOThereoday.com>
> wrote:
>
> >http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=856968
>
> >As far as this article and the international press goes it does'nt seem to
> >appear that he did anything wrong.
>
> The father of the child thought so and lodged a complaint. The police
> would have been obligated to follow-up on a complaint. It's not the
> policeman's job to tell the parents that they have no right to be
> concerned.
>
> As a photographer, you might know the images were erased from the
> camera. A non-photographer might not understand that the images were
> actually erased.

And a technically savvy person knows the images, though erased, can be
recovered fairly easily.

> I don't see that the photographer did anything wrong, but he was
> intrusive. I don't think the parents were wrong to be alarmed.

I must say that if I were that father's girl, I would have reacted
equally... know your boundaries and the laws of the countries you're
visiting.

eNo
http://esfotoclix.com

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:19 am
From: Paul Furman

John A. wrote:
>
> Nothing against this photographer. It's just a very awkward subject

http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/page/3/
A silly web site but, oh well :-)

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:35 am
From: Savageduck

On 2009-05-16 09:19:11 -0700, Paul Furman <paul-@-edgehill.net> said:

> John A. wrote:
>>
>> Nothing against this photographer. It's just a very awkward subject
>
> http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/page/3/
> A silly web site but, oh well :-)

The horror! ...The horror!
--
Regards,
Savageduck

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:32 am
From: Alan Browne

Paul Furman wrote:
> John A. wrote:
>>
>> Nothing against this photographer. It's just a very awkward subject
>
> http://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/page/3/
> A silly web site but, oh well :-)

It's good look at those "creative" efforts!

I am designated photog for a friend's family event in July and I really
want to work the grandparent/grandchildren angle to the hilt ... the
collection above is a stern warning to me to be very thoughtful and
careful. Thankfully the setting is pastoral, old farmhouse, barns,
fields and so on.

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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:28 am
From: t_p_paterson@hotmail.com

On Mar 21, 2:41 am, ASAAR <cau...@22.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:08:30 -0700 (PDT), t_p_pater...@hotmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >> From what the manual says on page 105, it appears that you have
> >> the S5 Pro set to single frame mode (or possibly self timer mode),
> >> where only one shot of the bracket sequence is taken for each press
> >> of the shutter button. The control panel display will show how the
> >> bracketed shots are progressing. The entire set of bracketed images
> >> can be taken with a single press of the shutter button when the S5
> >> Pro is set to continuous low speed or continuous high speed mode.
>
> > Thanks for the pointer - that's what I've been running through. It
> > seems that in S mode, it should do frame at a time, in Cl or Ch mode
> > it should do the whole sequence when the shutter release is held
> > down. But when the Func button is set to Bracket, it should only need
> > the release to be pressed once briefly for it to run the full
> > sequence. That doesn't happen. Any thoughts?
>
> That's what the manual says, but it didn't mention whether the
> Func button has to be held down until all of the shots are taken.
> Did you try that? As the S5 Pro is based on the D200, it's
> unfortunate that it doesn't have a feature that might help. From
> page 90 of the D200 manual :
>
> > Bracketing
> > Adjust bracketing settings before starting interval timer photography.
> > If exposure and/or flash bracketing is active while interval timer
> > photography is in effect, the camera will take the number of shots
> > in the bracketing program at each interval, regardless of the number
> > of shots specified in the interval timer menu. If white balance
> > bracketing is active while interval timer photography is in effect,
> > the camera will only take one shot at each interval and process it to
> > create the number of copies specified in the bracketing program.
>
> I don't know if there's any difference between the functionality
> of interval timer shooting with the D200 and D300, but according to
> Thom Hogan's D300 guide :
>
> > The question that usually gets asked next is "how do I do an
> > automatic bracket with a single shutter press?" Simple:
> > combine it with Interval shooting
>
> . . .
>
> > The D300 provides the ability to have the camera take one or more
> > shots at periodic intervals (sometimes called time lapse or step
> > photography). Interval shooting can be done with the camera
> > unattended, assuming that the camera will stay powered and
> > protected from someone changing settings.
> > Incidentally, this is useful as it lets me press and leave the camera
> > bracketing super-long exposures on night time architectural shots,
> > hence the interest - holding the button down for fifteen minutes is
> > annoying and I occassionally spoil a shot with shake. I should get a
> > cable release.
>
> Nikon has several that are compatible with the S5 Pro. The MC-36
> has a flexible programmable interval timer that might help with the
> exposure bracketing, but it would be best to confirm this with
> someone else, perhaps even with Fuji's tech. support. If tech.
> support balks at discussing Nikon's products, you can tell them that
> the S5 Pro manual (page 201, "Usable Nikon accessories") lists the
> MC-36, MC-30 and MC-22 Remote Cords.

Thanks guys, it didn't work, I tried all of these approaches. Ah well.

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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 9:53 am
From: "Keith Willshaw"

"Mike" <rubbish@live.com> wrote in message
news:0n8t059iscobsjpadmbabd9sikqc6o172i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 15 May 2009 19:29:10 +0100, Chris H <chris@phaedsys.org>
> wrote:
>
>>It is not the guns but the Bozos that want them.
>
> Up to a point. In UK we have stopped categories of gun being available
> as a bit of a knee jerk reaction to a single case, it might have been
> better to make sure credentials were better or better enforced rather
> than change the categories available to bone fide shooters.
>

Unfortunately it wasnt a single case or had you forgotten Hungerford ?
They assured everyone they had strenghtened the rules on gun licensing
after that incident. Then came Dunblane.

Keith

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Date: Sat, May 16 2009 10:18 am
From: "David Ruether"

"piotrekwas" <piotrekwas@interia.pl> wrote in message news:81c65cba-78fe-4d45-b53f-ffa5264e55ba@g20g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
On May 13, 10:36 am, "David Ruether" <d_ruet...@thotmail.com> wrote:
> <piotrek...@interia.pl> wrote in message

Thank you very much for giving us so many tips, especially about
visiting cities. We are still making plans for our journey so we will
take your advices for sure. We also think that Glacier National Park,
Yellowstone and Mt. Rainier are going to be the best places in our
trip. By the way we are curious what happened in Mt. Rainier National
Park???

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

We weren't doing anything we thought dangerous or unusual (and we
made NO attempt to climb - this should be done ONLY with guides,
and even then, MANY people have been killed on this mountain). We
went for a short walk in the snow from Paradise(?) Lodge, on an easy,
nearly level, and quite short trail which leads to the edge of a high cliff
with a view across a major glacier (so large that if you manage to spot
people on it, they are the tiniest of tiny pin pricks - which makes you
realize how enormous the "cracks" in the glacier are, and how large it
is!) and up to the peak of Mt. Rainier. This was at a time when the
ground was covered with snow (but later, this area has amazing Alpine
wild flowers). We noticed a "cloud" beginning to spill over the top of
the mountain, but didn't think much of it. Rapidly it engulfed us and we
could see only a couple of feet away (not fun when next to a cliff!). Since
the trail was criss-crossed with foot prints, we could not identify the
true trail, so we waited a bit hoping the fog would clear. Fortunately,
we soon heard voices, then saw yellow-garbed climbers coming by in
a group, which we followed back to the Lodge. When we got back,
we were surprised to find that we were badly sunburned, although it
had been cloudy all day and we had not been out long. BTW, there is
another great viewpoint from a short hike (sorry, I can't tell you how to
get to it, but maybe asking there will get you there) that has a sweeping
view down into a deep valley and then up the entire height of the
mountain! WHEW!!! (BTW, Mt. Rainier, surprisingly, is the highest
mountain in the world from its *visible* base to its peak, making it one
HECK of a sight! One time while near this viewpoint, we heard soft
"whistling" sounds, then saw high-performance gliders going back and
forth between us and the mountain. Also, watch for birds that will sit
on your head/hand/anything and grab food from you whether it is
offered or not! 8^)

Also, heed the warnings in Yellowstone - you can easily get scalded,
and moose can kill people, as can bears (DO NOT open car windows
when near bears, and have ALL food in tightly sealed containers!).
And, of course, do not approach buffalo.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes, we traveled to South-West during the spring (May/June). The
weather was excellent. And we also lived in Chicago, so we know
Millennium Park and other attractions very well J

Once again, thanks for your time.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Have fun on the trip!
--DR

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