Wednesday, March 4, 2009

adobe.photoshop.windows - 25 new messages in 14 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* not clickable to clickable - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/fd51871c4ba35b72?hl=en
* File Format Question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/0a4b34532e4416ef?hl=en
* Photoshop won't open files from Bridge or Explorer? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/96f6ff71f0e62728?hl=en
* Thinking of buying from eBay? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/19b418010ce94ec1?hl=en
* CS2 Tiff files crashing my word processor - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/869a89d7f15f3872?hl=en
* Photoshop CS3 / CS4 showing same preview of all pallets for color, gradient,
sahpes etc - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a42566c05bea1bd9?hl=en
* My CS raw broken after several good years, help? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/aa3fde72403033d6?hl=en
* How can I create a gradient blur? - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/cc5e32e6fd10e550?hl=en
* OpenGL problems!! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/aaf823af89b72ec8?hl=en
* Normal map strength in CS4 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a72e3b6ecfb7aba1?hl=en
* Installation Fails Repeatedly - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/f42baa3ad6b7ff62?hl=en
* Nvidia March 3rd drivers with PS CS4 fixes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/914f59ec66f16686?hl=en
* CMYK file size smaller then RGB... Why? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/ff7262336f75122f?hl=en
* reinstalling ps cs2 - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/8a30c38302da9dda?hl=en

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TOPIC: not clickable to clickable
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/fd51871c4ba35b72?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 8:17 am
From: "Phos±four dots"


You beat me to it, Dave.

:)

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TOPIC: File Format Question
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/0a4b34532e4416ef?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:21 am
From: Ray_Drake@adobeforums.com


I had no problem in CS3 with this, using the included plug in. But that plug in does not seem to work in CS4 and I don't think one was included this time?

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TOPIC: Photoshop won't open files from Bridge or Explorer?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/96f6ff71f0e62728?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:21 am
From: Ray_Drake@adobeforums.com


Tried that, doesn't help. Now even rebooting the machine doesn't help, where as before it would help temporarily.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:54 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com


did you get the dialog asking if you want to reset photoshop's preferences when you "tried" that?

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TOPIC: Thinking of buying from eBay?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/19b418010ce94ec1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:24 am
From: stevefoobar@adobeforums.com


Don this sounds plausible but are you really sure about CS3 being the right time-frame for OEM bundling to have stopped? I would have thought bundling because of scanner prices dropping would have occured a LONG time ago--more like Photohop version 6!

It would be so simple if Adobe would just state when they last licensed OEM copies in the U.S.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:07 am
From: Don_McCahill@adobeforums.com


Did I say CS3? The OEM for Photoshop probably ended before version 5.5.

I don't think Adobe has to publicly address this issue. OEM has not been available for over 10 years, and this is well know by, at least, the regular users of these forums. Anyone claiming to be selling OEM since then is pirating.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:38 am
From: stevefoobar@adobeforums.com


OK, that does make much more sense and explains a lot. I'm now convinced there's not likely a legitimate OEM version of CS3 out there so I won't bother to pursue this.

Reading this thread and other online articles about piracy, I understand it's sometime nearly impossible to even recognize pirated software because of the sophisticated packing done by the more serious pirates.

That leaves me with the only logical conclusion--it's much safer to just download a cracked version of Adobe products where you know you can rely on getting a valid and fully working version and always be assured you have the latest version available.

OK, just kidding....just kidding...just kidding!

I guess I'll have to consider buying Adobe Photoshop Elements instead. I just wish the Adobe site had a clear comparison feature for feature of the differences between the two versions so it would be easier for me to decide (for example, I don't do any advanced color management or color profiling of my hardware and I know this is just one of the differences between the two versions).

Oh well...maybe I'll ask that on another thread.

Thanks everyone for your input and from keeping me from potentially wasting money and time with these pirated "OEM" versions.

Steve
Chicago, IL USA

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TOPIC: CS2 Tiff files crashing my word processor
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/869a89d7f15f3872?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:37 am
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Did you install the dot release for CS2? (and how did you upgrade to something that old?)

I don't recall any bugs or changes that could cause problems in 1 bit TIFF files.
But my guess is that there is a bug in your word processor's handling of TIFF.

The pixel order should have no effect on 1 bit/channel (and single channel) files.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:47 am
From: Laurie_Murray@adobeforums.com


Hi Chris. Thanks for responding.

I'm not with the I.T. department here at work. The reason I now have CS2 is because the version 7 disc somehow sprouted legs and walked away. (eyeroll) My computer required a reformat and because I wanted Photoshop reinstalled, the I.T. department installed a valid CS2 disc that was sitting on their shelf.

That being said, I'm certain that the bug really lies with BOTH my word processor AND Photoshop CS2. That's why I was hoping someone here might be able to come up with a reason why one version of Photoshop WILL save a file that's usable while another version won't. If the newer version is saving some extra bit of information in the TIF file, what is it and can I possibly get rid of it somehow.

Alternatively, I would need to get my hands on Version 7 somehow. I shudder to upgrade to the lastest version of Photoshop since I worry the problem will still be an issue.

Or, if anyone knows a way to get a 1 bit TIF file out of Adobe Illustrator, that would work too (but I'm quite certain that's impossible)

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS3 / CS4 showing same preview of all pallets for color,
gradient, sahpes etc
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a42566c05bea1bd9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:39 am
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Then update your video card drivers...

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TOPIC: My CS raw broken after several good years, help?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/aa3fde72403033d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:41 am
From: Rob_Keijzer@adobeforums.com


Joshua,

Have you tried to reinstall the Camera Raw plug-in? The latest for CS, that is?

What version of Camera Raw do you have? (Help > Plug-ins)

Is it still the D80 camera?

Rob

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TOPIC: How can I create a gradient blur?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/cc5e32e6fd10e550?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 9:52 am
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com


As always, I never received a copy of the memo on the new rating system.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:04 am
From: Don_McCahill@adobeforums.com


David

Much had been written on the change to new forums coming up soon, including the rating system.

<http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b7c637/>


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:06 am
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com


What I don't understand is why the original poster said Ho's method worked great, when the method gives the exact same result as the method he mentioned he didn't want to use? Really, lens blur is probably what you're after. It will blur every pixel by varying degrees, as opposed to by an alpha mask opacity method, which still shows the unblurred image underneath.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:35 am
From: Shaun_Kendall@adobeforums.com


What I don't understand is why the original poster said Ho's method worked
great, when the method gives the exact same result as the method he mentioned
he didn't want to use?


I'm not sure of the reason, but it didn't produce the same results. Just to clarify, the image I was using had text in it. When I used the method I mentioned on my first post, I saw the blurred image, but right at the point when the opacity was around 50% I could still see the completely unblurred image underneath (completely clear and readable text), creating a sort-of glow look around the text.

When I used the method that Ho suggested, the text simply becomes increasingly blurred as you look across the image.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:45 am
From: Shaun_Kendall@adobeforums.com


PeterK,

I tried the method you mentioned just to see what the results would look like and, you're right, that came closer to the look I was trying to get.

Ho's method did look better than the original one I mentioned that I had tried, but the lens blur is even better.

Thanks for your suggestion and thank all of you for the help.

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TOPIC: OpenGL problems!!
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/aaf823af89b72ec8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:18 am
From: Charles_Vortreflich@adobeforums.com


Chris,
Thanks for the reply. At ATI support's suggestion, I exchanged my first 4850 for another (they also told me that there's a problem with refresh, but speculated it was due to a defective card). The second card didn't solve the problem. Since OpenGL seems to be related to 2D and 3D graphics, I can't imagine I have any programs also using OpenGL on my system. Don't use 3D; I'm not a gamer. As for utilities, I'm using Norton Internet Security 2009; Diskeeper (I turned off auto defrag and it didn't make any difference). Other programs I have running in the background: X1 (turning that off, made no difference); restoredesktop; DSentry; Epson print driver; Googleupdate; a bunch of services; and a few other files I don't know much about but don't believe are related to graphics.

Can you suggest any programs that might interfere with the OpenGL function in PS that might be common but unrelated to graphics? If it's related to hardware: motherboard, CPU, RAID motherboard controller, type of memory (DDR3), I'm not sure how I can test that without re-configuring my system entirely.

Sure would like to solve this problem.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:33 am
From: Chris_Cox@adobeforums.com


Could be a screensaver, or something that just uses OpenGL for drawing (video, etc.).
For some users it has been bad settings in ATI (or NVidia) control panels.

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TOPIC: Normal map strength in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/a72e3b6ecfb7aba1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 10:23 am
From: Paul_Mikulecky@adobeforums.com


There is a strength setting for bump maps under 3d Materials, but is there a way to increase the effect of a normal map in Photoshop CS4?

Cheers,
Paul


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:15 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com


Normal maps contain the direction of a surface point with the vector components encoded as RGB channels. Changing their intensity would result in wrong directions and incorrect rendering... Without specific precautions this would be of no use except to inflate the object until it looks like a ball (as you merely ramp up the length of the vector without compensating for angular deviation). More something for dedicated sculpting tools...

Mylenium

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TOPIC: Installation Fails Repeatedly
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/f42baa3ad6b7ff62?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:22 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com


Run the CS4 Clean Utility to unregister all Adobe components you may have on your system (including the debris from your failed installs) and try again. Also make sure to close all unnecessary apps during install. If that doesn't help, then it's quite possible that this is something specific with AMD processors and it may require some fiddling with your BIOS and/or installing some AMD specific patches manually...

Mylenium

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TOPIC: Nvidia March 3rd drivers with PS CS4 fixes
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/914f59ec66f16686?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:31 am
From: David_E_Crawford@adobeforums.com


Yup that's right. All you Nvidia card owners may have a few fixes. Read the release notes on the fixes for PS CS4. Least it is printed that some of the problems have been addressed and fixed.

<http://www.nvidia.com/page/home.html>

This has been a public service announcement.:)

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TOPIC: CMYK file size smaller then RGB... Why?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/ff7262336f75122f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:37 am
From: apartment7@adobeforums.com


I have been receiving some very simple files from a colleague and her file sizes are a 10th of what mine are. The confusing part is she is sending them in CMYK and I convert them to RGB. Theoretically they should be smaller. Dimensions and resolution are exactly the same and both are 8 bits per channel and no color profiles. She might be using an older version of Photoshop than me (currently CS3). Anyone have any ideas?

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TOPIC: reinstalling ps cs2
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/t/8a30c38302da9dda?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 11:49 am
From: philip_rosen@adobeforums.com


originally i had ps7, then cs upgrade, then cs2 upgrade have all the disks and numbers am going to a new computer do i have to install ps7 then cs then cs2?
or can i just install cs2 (since its an upgrade will it install with no other photoshops already on the computer?

2nd question will i need to call adobe or will it activate ok since i believe you can use two computers with the license

thanks


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 4 2009 12:08 pm
From: Bob Levine


Deactivate it on the old computer and install it. Have the earlier CD
and serial number handy for verification.

Bob


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