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TOPIC: Need advice on significantly downsampling images
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/8ba8e33f434c4bf0?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Nov 27 2008 11:28 pm
From: Robert_Meador@adobeforums.com

Cool - tried both methods - highpass and USM on another layer. Both work great. Highpass is a little less intuitive - I'm more likely to stick with USM just because I'll remember how to do it :)

Seems that if I'm judicious in my USM I don't need to set the blend mode to darken. The blend mode change really reduces the amount of apparent sharpening, so I have to hit it extra hard, then back it off via setting blend mode to darken. Or I can give it a light tap with USM and not change the blend mode. Since I'm not asking for a lot from the sharpening - just to tighten up the image after a big size jump - this approach seems to work.

Luminosity mode looks the same as normal, at least to my eyes. But I see how I can pull back the white on the upper Blend If slider to reduce the white side of the halos.

Anyway, this seems like a much better way to control the exact sharpening than doing a multi-step reduction.

Thanks!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 8:41 am
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com

If you convert the layer to a smart object, you can always adjust and readjust the sharpening as needed, as well as change the blending options and their opacity right in the sharpening filter by right clicking on it. It's non-destructive and negates the need to have duplicate layers.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 9:59 am
From: J_Maloney@adobeforums.com

Here's a nice tutorial <http://www.layersmagazine.com/photoshop-output-sharpening.html>.

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TOPIC: Not happy about Adjustments panel
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/3c67f396a9110451?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 12:39 am
From: christoph_pfaffenbichler@adobeforums.com

G, I don't think it was answered definitely, but I also don't think that it is possible. I could be wrong though.

PE, my scripting is atrocious and I would prefer not having it on the Adobe-server for years to come (apart from the embarrassing fact that the one time I tried to upload something there I failed, reflecting badly on my net-savvy).
But I'd be glad to email You the Scripts if You want to give them a try.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 8:07 am
From: g_ballard@adobeforums.com

> I don't think it was answered definitely

Thanks...put me down on this as not liking how it was 'improved.'

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 8:23 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Yes, improvements should concentrate on FUNCTION and not on appearance, or juggling things around in the interface. As far as I can see the only functional improvement in this version for professional and advanced users, is the dynamic, within image slider to alter adjustment values. This is a welcome move forward, but when it comes to adjustment layers, in most other ways CS4 has missed the boat.

Another thing that annoys me- why on earth have they introduced a completely new adjustment for Vibrance? much more sensible and efficient to include it as an add on to hue/saturation, with the same color range selection tools that hue/sat has.

For speed, in competitive environments, keyboard shortcuts are essential and not replaceable by user defined flash panels, or tiny icon toggles for essential functionality.

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TOPIC: Images automatically rotating on opening
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/7685c3c2683136f7?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 1:01 am
From: Sarah_Nichol@adobeforums.com

Thanks for that, chaps. I'm aware that we're somewhat behind (!) but I'm stuck with what I've got because my company can't afford to upgrade. We're already way off the upgrade path. Mine is one of the few machines that could handle CS3 or CS4 - the rest would need replacing before we could upgrade.

I work with images from multiple sources, and whether an image gets rotated or not seems completely random. I've tried to find sense in it but I can't.

Never mind. I'll just have to get used to having to rotate images before I can work on them.

Cheers,
Sarah.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 6:31 am
From: Buko

my company can't afford to upgrade.

But they can afford to load Leopard on your computer?

If they upgrade now they can save money with an upgrade price if they don't upgrade before CS5 is released then they will have to pay full price again which is $500 to $600 more.

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TOPIC: Adjustment Panels - are they progress?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/4b476582af8b5fc3?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 2:58 am
From: James_Russell_1001@adobeforums.com

I'm not finding the new adjustment layers any improvement over CS2 which I was previously using. They seem to have lost some functionality. For example you could cmd click to place points on the curve and then ctrl-tab to move between them. I can't seem to do that any more. Also if you didn't like the adjustment just hit esc and it disappeared. I may get used to dragging in the image to make an adjustment but it strikes me there are now more mouse clicks involved to do anything.

Also cmd shift click would place a point on each of the colour channels, very useful to make colour adjustments – I can't do that anymore either.

By default layers open as a clipping mask which I don't necessarily want so I have to move to the bottom of the palette to uncheck this, more moving about.

Is this release really progress? I'm not convinced.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 3:21 am
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com

James do a search on the several existing threads on the subject.

Use the + and - keys to navigate. Reading the help files would be a good idea.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 3:45 am
From: Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com

Here's one example of such a thread (click on the link).

Ann Shelbourne, "Not happy about Adjustments panel" #18, 20 Nov 2008 7:49 am </webx?14@@.59b69a82/17>

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 5:14 am
From: James_Russell_1001@adobeforums.com

Thanks for your advice Ramon, I did study that thread but didn't find answers to my questions. + and - keys not an improvement, why has it been changed? Before you could cmd tab with your left hand and use the up and down keys with your right to change the curve shape. Now you have to move the same hand from the up and down to the + and - keys. That is slower. This may sound minor but when you spend all day at a keyboard ergonomics are very important.

Also you have to click the hand in the dialog box before you can click the image to select points - another operation that wasn't there before.

To me this all seems change for changes sake, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 6:24 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

Unfortunately James with new versions now they are now almost forced to try and fix whats not broken.

Yes I agree, its not an impovement that shortcut. Would have been better using a left hand shortcut, maybe Alt/Tab or something unused. Also toggling modes with the little pointy hand toggle in the dialog box, is a pain and there should be a simple left hand shortcut for this too.

The only practical advantage that CS4 curves has, is that you can dynamically slide within the image area and see it update - they also obviously also weren't even given time to add this functionality to add this to all the adjustment layers.

Shortcuts have not been thought through well enough. Like you say, when you do color correction and have to make maybe 150 curve adjustments in a day.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 6:40 am
From: ant_upton@adobeforums.com

It seems like a lot of the keystrokes have changed, in some cases necessitating more work and in some cases you can't even perform operations from the keyboard which you were able to in previous versions. :-((

As you say when you spend all day working on images, ergonomics are VERY important.

Lets hope that an option is given to use the previous keystrokes in a future upgrade, it certainly makes sense for a mature product to offer a consistent workflow from version to version.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 7:57 am
From: Mark_Reynolds@adobeforums.com

"it certainly makes sense for a mature product to offer a consistent workflow from version to version" - yes, either that or if you do decide (probably wrongly) that you have to take things away from a tool, then its essential to compensate by significantly improving the functionality in other ways.

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TOPIC: Adjustment Panel Presets
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/66bc1f994192c372?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 6:02 am
From: ant_upton@adobeforums.com

I've created an Adjustment panel preset and I would like it to be first in the list, how do I adjust the order of presets.

I've looked in folder where the default presets are stored and can't see my new one, (CS4>Presets>Curves) are they stored anywhere else?

Thanks

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TOPIC: Import grayscale to black channel in CMYK document
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/56ddf4bad70add25?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 6:50 am
From: Tom_Campbell_671@adobeforums.com

Using Photoshop CS2, v9.0.2 on Mac, is there a way to import grayscale images onto a CMYK layout so they only appear in the black channel. Currently, when I import a grayscale image, it converts it to CMYK and distributes the image into the four color channels.

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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 7:27 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com

Yes, you can do it.

With your grayscale image open, select the Channel Tab/Palette > Click on the channel (called gray) > Command+A to Select all > Copy.

Then, in your CMYK document, select the Channel Tab/Palette > click on the black channel > then Paste.

Voila.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 9:38 am
From: Tom_Campbell_671@adobeforums.com

Thank you for helping but when I follow your procedure, the marquee of the selected area from my grayscale image appears on the black channel, but no image. Could it be a preference or color management setting that I need to change?

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:19 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com

I don't think so.

Is the correct layer selected in the grayscale file?

Looks like you're copying nothing, therefore you're pasting nothing, so to speak.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:22 am
From: J_Maloney@adobeforums.com

Darnit Rene.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:21 am
From: J_Maloney@adobeforums.com

It's important to know what layer is active. The background layer, or layer with the channel value you need to replace must be active. Go to the layers panel and select the right layer before you paste.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:23 am
From: Rene_Garneau@adobeforums.com

:-)

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TOPIC: Adjusting margins for printing images
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/f4ceda3712dee061?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 7:48 am
From: David_D._Werner@adobeforums.com

Thanks, Santa.

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TOPIC: Jumping to diff. thumbnail after RAW adjustments?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/ff85da3e76383b0d?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 9:25 am
From: jmiller@adobeforums.com

When I working bridge (CS3, Mac OS10.5) and open a file in Camera RAW to make adjustments and then close the file, the thumbnail disappears for a bit and then comes back visible in Bridge. That file that was just adjusted isn't the one selected. So I need to go back and select it to see how the change looks on the enlarged image in the Bridge preview pain. This is a major pain. It doesn't happen on my other Mac (OS10.4) with CS3. I make a RAW adjustment and it stays selected and I can see the change. Any idea on what is causing this to deselect the image I'm correcting? Thanks.

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TOPIC: Deselect Shortcut Problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.macintosh/t/8efc589186b30948?hl=en
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Date: Fri, Nov 28 2008 10:07 am
From: Drew_Rebecchi@adobeforums.com

Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately that didn't work. I even uninstalled my copy and reinstalled it and it still didn't work. Any other suggestions?

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