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* Photographer sues and loses. - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Problem with a Canon 50D - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Could you actually see photos made from RAW files? - 5 messages, 3 authors
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* Does anybody have an answer? - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Will there be a digital TLR camera? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Use your build-in flash better! - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Album Lumières d'Opale n° 46 - 2 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Photographer sues and loses.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 6:11 am
From: Michael Dobony

On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:25:53 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:

> Henry K. Lee, SF Chronicle Staff
> Wednesday, June 3, 2009
>
>
>> A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed by an Oakland Tribune
>> photographer who accused officers of illegally barring him from taking
>> pictures at a freeway crash scene and handcuffing him when he persisted.
>>
>>
>> Ray Chavez, 45, said officers had interfered with his right as a member of
>> the press to cover news, specifically a car crash and the emergency response
>> time. The 2007 incident caused him to be "arrested and handcuffed without
>> justification solely due to the exercise of First Amendment rights," said
>> his suit, filed in U.S. District Court.
>>
>>
>> But in a ruling Tuesday, U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer in San Francisco
>> dismissed the suit, saying the media has no First Amendment rights to access
>> accident or crime scenes if the general public was excluded.
>>
>>
>> Breyer said Chavez "does not offer any evidence that suggests that the
>> general public had a right to exit their vehicles on the freeway and stand
>> in the freeway to take photographs. Moreover, common sense dictates that
>> members of the general public are not allowed to exit their cars in the
>> middle of the freeway to view an accident scene."
>>
>>
>> Chavez said that he was "so disappointed with the judge's decision."
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, Chavez was driving north on Interstate 880 near the 29th
>> Avenue exit in Oakland when a car in front of him crashed and rolled over in
>> the fast lane. Chavez, wearing his press credential around his neck, got out
>> of his car and began taking pictures, "considering this a spot news matter,"
>> the suit said.
>>
>>
>> Oakland police Officer Kevin Reynolds told Chavez that he should leave, the
>> suit said. When Chavez replied that he had a right to be there as a member
>> of the press, Reynolds angrily told him that he "didn't have any business
>> here (and) that it was a crime scene," the suit said.
>>
>>
>> After Chavez took photos of an arriving ambulance, Reynolds blocked his
>> camera and told him, "You don't need to take these kind of photos,"
>> according to the suit.
>>
>>
>> Reynolds asked for Chavez's identification and began writing him a citation,
>> the suit said. As a California Highway Patrol cruiser arrived, Chavez again
>> took pictures. That prompted Reynolds to say, "That's it.
>> You're under arrest," the suit said.
>>
>>
>> The officer made Chavez sit next to the overturned car with his hands behind
>> his back for a half-hour, the suit said. Passing motorists mistakenly
>> believed Chavez had caused the crash and "cursed and made derogatory
>> references to and signs at plaintiff while he sat on the ground handcuffed,"
>> the suit said.
>>
>>
>> Oakland police Officer Cesar Garcia told Chavez that he would be cited for
>> impeding traffic and failing to obey a lawful order. The officers gave him
>> the citation, removed the handcuffs and let him go, but not before Reynolds
>> warned him, "Don't ever come here again to take these kinds of photos," the
>> suit said.
>>
>>
>> Chavez was named photojournalist of the year in 2008 by the National
>> Association of Hispanic Journalists. He has been with the Tribune for 15
>> years.

This is the same judge who blocked the Bush administration from punishing
illegal aliens. This corrupt judge thinks illegal aliens have more rights
than citizens!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 8:53 am
From: C J Campbell

On 2009-06-04 12:25:53 -0700, John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> said:

This is the crux of the matter right here. Chavez was not arrested for
taking pictures. He was arrested for endangering himself and the
general public by getting out of his car. His car, which was not an
emergency vehicle, may have blocked emergency vehicles from getting to
the accident scene. It could have obstructed traffic and created a
hazard. His wandering around the accident scene might also have created
a distraction and hazard to other drivers. He could have caused another
accident. Would he have demanded the right to photograph that one, too?

This is the same as the FAA putting up a temporary flight restriction
over accidents and major fires and the like. The idea is to keep news
and other aircraft safe -- not to prevent reporting the news. During
the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens, Chavez would not have been allowed to
approach the mountain closer than five miles. That does not infringe on
his First Amendment rights; it keeps him from becoming a casualty and
keeps people from having to risk their lives rescuing him.

But then the account of what really happened is far more disturbing:

>> Chavez said that he was "so disappointed with the judge's decision."
>>
>>
>> On May 4, 2007, Chavez was driving north on Interstate 880 near the 29th
>> Avenue exit in Oakland when a car in front of him crashed and rolled over in
>> the fast lane. Chavez, wearing his press credential around his neck, got out
>> of his car and began taking pictures, "considering this a spot news matter,"
>> the suit said.
>>
>>
>> Oakland police Officer Kevin Reynolds told Chavez that he should leave, the
>> suit said. When Chavez replied that he had a right to be there as a member
>> of the press, Reynolds angrily told him that he "didn't have any business
>> here (and) that it was a crime scene," the suit said.
>>
>>
>> After Chavez took photos of an arriving ambulance, Reynolds blocked his
>> camera and told him, "You don't need to take these kind of photos,"
>> according to the suit.

Okay, what we have is an officer of the law who is attempting to censor
the press. We have a police office deciding what gets published and
what does not. He does not mention public safety. He does not tell
Chavez that he is a hazard. He says that "these kind of photos" don't
need to be taken.

>> Reynolds asked for Chavez's identification and began writing him a citation,
>> the suit said. As a California Highway Patrol cruiser arrived, Chavez again
>> took pictures. That prompted Reynolds to say, "That's it.
>> You're under arrest," the suit said.
>>
>>
>> The officer made Chavez sit next to the overturned car with his hands behind
>> his back for a half-hour, the suit said. Passing motorists mistakenly
>> believed Chavez had caused the crash and "cursed and made derogatory
>> references to and signs at plaintiff while he sat on the ground handcuffed,"
>> the suit said.
>>
>>
>> Oakland police Officer Cesar Garcia told Chavez that he would be cited for
>> impeding traffic and failing to obey a lawful order. The officers gave him
>> the citation, removed the handcuffs and let him go, but not before Reynolds
>> warned him, "Don't ever come here again to take these kinds of photos," the
>> suit said.

So it clearly was a case where the safety issue is an afterthought, an
excuse for censoring the press -- the chief motivation of the arresting
officer was to censor the press. The appellate judge will probably be
overturned on appeal because of this.

>>
>>
>> Chavez was named photojournalist of the year in 2008 by the National
>> Association of Hispanic Journalists. He has been with the Tribune for 15
>> years.

Irrelevant background. He could have been a rookie for all I care.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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TOPIC: Problem with a Canon 50D
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 6:14 am
From: Gary Edstrom

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:09:40 -0400, none <none@optonline.net> wrote:

>I still use the 20d I think its a great camera. I also would like to
>change to a newer camera, any ideas?

My primary reason for going to the 50D is that it takes all the same
lenses and other accessories as the 20D. I didn't need to shell out
money for new lenses.

It's functionality is very similar to the 20D. One nice feature is the
automatic ultra-sonic sensor cleaning every time you turn the camera on
or off.

Gary

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 1:02 pm
From: ASAAR

On Sat, 30 May 2009 04:57:44 -0600, Gary Edstrom wrote:

> While the technological life of today's cameras may be kind of short,

Being reasonable is a waste of time. You just replied to the
newsgroup's resident Anti-DSLR troll. Some trolls can be reasoned
with, occasionally. This one, never. It's one of his forms of
auto-entertainment, when he's bored with the others or needs to use
the keyboard for a while to loosen up his fingers.

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TOPIC: Could you actually see photos made from RAW files?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 7:00 am
From: Chris H

In message <87prdi77d1.fld@apaflo.com>, Floyd L. Davidson
<floyd@apaflo.com> writes
>
>The statement *does* represent Chris as an authority,
>which he is not.

What evidence to you have for that statement?

What are your qualifications besides being an ammeter programmer to make
such a statement?

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 2:55 pm
From: Eric Stevens

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:02:16 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>>On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:27:15 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
>>Davidson) wrote:
>>>Or instead of your search on "voltage +quantization" (which gets
>>>only 276,000 hits), try "voltage +analog" for 10 million hits.
>>
>>Its only a list of searches relating to the problems of the
>>quantization of voltage.
>
>Right, now do you understand what you just said?
>
>The problems associated with the process of quatization of
>voltage. Which means that voltage is analog, and there
>are processes used to quantize it.

Duh!

Eric Stevens

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 3:09 pm
From: Eric Stevens

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:29:27 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Eric Stevens wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:45:53 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Eric's correct to say that at a quantum level, you're dealing with
>>> integer numbers of photons & electrons, but he's missing the important
>>> point, which is that an image sensor doesn't have any way of 'counting'
>>> anything, & that the output voltage is merely an approximation of the
>>> input signal.
>>
>> Which is then digitised to the necessary level of accuracy by
>> comparison with a ramp signal.
>
>You're thinking of dual-slope conversion, as used in multimeters & the
>like. Dual-slope is very, very slow. For this sort of application (ie;
>fast) you either use a flash converter or a fast SAR converter.
>
>Eg; something like this:
><http://www.analog.com/en/analog-to-digital-converters/ad-converters/ad9254/products/product.html>
>(Note that they aren't cheap.)

Its too long since I was involved with anything like this but as far
as I can see these all work by constructing a reference ramp signal
(not necessarily linear) comprised of individual reference voltages
with which to compare the input.

You may use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog-to-digital_converter
to define the limits of my understanding. :-)

Eric Stevens

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 3:11 pm
From: Eric Stevens

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:10:45 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
Davidson) wrote:

>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:45:53 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Well, Eric's correct to say that at a quantum level, you're dealing with
>>>integer numbers of photons & electrons, but he's missing the important
>>>point, which is that an image sensor doesn't have any way of 'counting'
>>>anything, & that the output voltage is merely an approximation of the
>>>input signal.
>>
>>Which is then digitised to the necessary level of accuracy by
>>comparison with a ramp signal.
>
>Comparison witha reamp signal???
>
>You've been doing some research, and now the whole concept of
>digital voltmeters is confusing you just as much as are digital
>cameras!

Yeah. I did some research, way back in the mid 1960s. I did more with
the introduction of digital music (whenever that was). So I do have
some idea of what I am talking about.

Eric Stevens

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 5:30 pm
From: floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson)

Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 03:02:16 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
>Davidson) wrote:
>
>>Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:27:15 -0800, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L.
>>>Davidson) wrote:
>>>>Or instead of your search on "voltage +quantization" (which gets
>>>>only 276,000 hits), try "voltage +analog" for 10 million hits.
>>>
>>>Its only a list of searches relating to the problems of the
>>>quantization of voltage.
>>
>>Right, now do you understand what you just said?
>>
>>The problems associated with the process of quatization of
>>voltage. Which means that voltage is analog, and there
>>are processes used to quantize it.
>
>Duh!

You original assertion is there for a "Duh!"

--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com

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TOPIC: Does anybody have an answer?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 7:13 am
From: nospam

In article
<acea401b-d42a-49ec-b06c-bc6e3d069f45@g37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
sambarluc <sambarluc@gmail.com> wrote:

> That's more or less what I'm doing, but it's like using a tank to go
> to the supermarket.

except that many dslrs are roughly the same size or even smaller than
something like a nikon fm and you don't need to carry dozens of rolls
of film either. not all dslrs are behemoths like the d3 or 1ds.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 8:14 am
From: sambarluc

> except that many dslrs are roughly the same size or even smaller than
> something like a nikon fm and you don't need to carry dozens of rolls
> of film either. not all dslrs are behemoths like the d3 or 1ds.

I have a Pentax k10, probably one of the more compact dslr around, at
least in its class. Ah, and before I had a Nikon D40, very compact,
but I re-sold it after few months because, guess what? I couldn't
stand its thousands useless fucntion, lacking instead the exposimeter
for old manual lenses. Anyway, I don't want to start a fight, clearly
we have different parameters in evaluating cameras, and that's
perfectly ok.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 2:50 pm
From: Eric Stevens

On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 10:33:38 GMT, "footless crow"
<footless.crow@googlemail.com> wrote:

>I'm not too sure about the practicalities of the modular idea but I
>certainly think that the DSLR manufacturers are missing something.
>It would be good to see a digital version of an utterly simple but
>very high quality camera such as the Nikon FM.
>Personally, I have no use for many features e.g. the tft display as I
>re-take
>the shot if I'm unsure of exposure etc.

Clearly you have never used one of the modern cameras. There is no
easier way to check the exposure than by viewing the histogram or
having the burned out high-lights indicated.

>This is less time consuming than
>fiddling about with the tft display controls.

By using the display properly you are not left unsure, you 'know' and
you know both what and why. Thats better than taking another shot on
the grounds that you weren't sure of the last one and hope to be more
sure of the next.

>As modern DSLRs are festooned
>with controls, it's too easy to accidentally put the camera into an
>unintended
>mode and it's not possible to use an ever-ready case due to the controls
>on the back of the camera.

You are writing rubbish and I strongly suspect you are a troll.

Eric Stevens

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 3:06 pm
From: "Pete D"

"sambarluc" <sambarluc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fffbf041-2014-4697-a747-3d94847379d6@h28g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> It isn't cheap.http://www.red.com/
>>
>> --
>
>
> Who ever said it has to be cheap? If it's worth, there will probably
> be a market anyway. Otherwise, red wouldn't exist.

The OP did by inference, if you don't need it then don't buy the feature he
said.

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TOPIC: Will there be a digital TLR camera?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 7:26 am
From: Don Stauffer

George Kerby wrote:
>
>
> On 6/5/09 9:11 AM, in article 4a2927b0$0$87074$815e3792@news.qwest.net, "Don
> Stauffer" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote:
>
>> George Kerby wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/4/09 9:09 AM, in article 4a27d5b7$0$89396$815e3792@news.qwest.net, "Don
>>> Stauffer" <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> aniramca@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> The twin-lens Reflex camera utilized a 120 film. Some of the old
>>>>> models included the famous Rolleiflex, as well as Mamiya C series and
>>>>> Yashica MAT124. I am not a 100% sure why this type of camera had a
>>>>> niche in the past few decades. Perhaps when you take a long exposure
>>>>> photos, the screen will not go blank.
>>>>> My question is whether there will be a digital TLR camera made
>>>>> sometime in the future. I knew that there are plastic toy camera using
>>>>> the TLR concept (Holga), and the most recent one from Japan -
>>>>> Blackbird http://www.superheadz.com/bbf/
>>>>> The blackbird has a nice concept and artistic, but very limited specs
>>>>> and using a 35mm film. I even wonder why they did not go to digital.
>>>>> Perhaps the sensor cost will be too expensive to make it a "toy" or
>>>>> "artistic" camera.
>>>>> Is there a future of a digital TLR? or is it not practical/economical
>>>>> with twin lens, and a large size sensor. Just curious!
>>>> Unlikely. Mfgs have learned how to make moving mirrors quite reliable
>>>> in the decades since the TLR was popular. It was a pain in some ways.
>>>> To replace lens took twice the time, 'cause you had to replace both
>>>> lenses.
>>>>
>>>> The TLR was popular in days when prime lens was relatively simple
>>>> compared to today's lenses, so cost of a second lens wasn't that bad. I
>>>> don't remember a TLR with a zoom lens. What a mechanical nightmare to
>>>> get not only the focusing mechanism, but the zooming mechanism to track.
>>>>
>>> I don't know about what TLR you had, Don. Every one that I saw, the lens had
>>> *nothing* to do with focusing the subject. The only controls on the *lens*
>>> was shutter speed and aperture, along with the lens cock/release and flash
>>> sync. The body itself did the focusing.
>>>
>> Maybe I didn't write that too clear. The two lenses were geared
>> together. That gear was actually on the lenses, though part of the
>> mechanism was in the body. I had two TLRs, both cheapies (one the
>> infamous Russian Lubitel- actually, not too bad a camera).
>>
>> In neither case were the lenses removable.
> Ok. Thanks for the clarification. And never having seen that camera, I stand
> corrected.
>
BTW, forgot to say what the other was- it was my first camera, a
Spartaflex. Got it when I was ten or eleven (1948 or 49). Loved it- a
great camera.

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TOPIC: Use your build-in flash better!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 7:41 am
From: "Bertram Paul"

l
"Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
news:cff35f7c-29ef-4f96-8f0e-a9157538c131@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 3, 7:12 pm, "Bertram Paul" <d...@mail.me> wrote:
> If you want better pictures with your internal flash (and external), this
> is
> a good place to look:http://bertram-paul.blogspot.com/
>
> Just leave a comment if your interested.
>
> --
> ---
> Bertram Paul

Hey McGiver, this is great if you happen to be carrying around a
backpack full of odds and ends for when you need it.

Not everyone has an external flash. It's for those people and if you use
wireless, but want the internal flash to fill in a little.

What I can't believe is that you did all of that and didn't take a
rubbing alcohol bottle and cut it to fit over the flash. Simpler and
better.

No it doesn't and you have the smart ability to fry your bottle to the
flash. By holding a plastic cup (that is bigger) a little from the flash,
the light is much better spread.

And next week "reflectors". I can hardly wait. Get out your aluminum
foil and crinkle it up !!!

If you're not able to invent something yourself, you can always make fun,
right? DO you feel better now?

--
---
Bertram Paul

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 7:58 am
From: John McWilliams

Bertram Paul wrote:
> l
> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message

> And next week "reflectors". I can hardly wait. Get out your aluminum
> foil and crinkle it up !!!
>
> If you're not able to invent something yourself, you can always make fun,
> right? DO you feel better now?

Could you quote correctly, and remove sig lines, since your method of
posting doesn't do it?

--
john mcwilliams

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 12:44 pm
From: ASAAR

On Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:58:03 -0700, John McWilliams wrote:

>> If you're not able to invent something yourself, you can always make fun,
>> right? DO you feel better now?
>
> Could you quote correctly, and remove sig lines, since your method of
> posting doesn't do it?

You're just begging for a new Berty Paul blog page showing the
cheap, DIY way to do that, aren't you? ("Why buy MS Word when
notepad can be used to . . .").

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TOPIC: Album Lumières d'Opale n° 46
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 9:08 am
From: Lumières d'Opale

Hello,

New album "Lumières d'Opale" has been published. If you are
interested, visit my website:
http://lumieresdopale.fr.monsite.orange.fr/index.jhtml or

http://lumieresdopale.fr.monsite.orange.fr

This is information about my website, but not a spam.

The galleries of this website display photographs taken around the
Opale Coast in France, near Le Touquet, under an ever-changing light.
The pictures are changed once or twice a month. The downloading and
use of these images is free as long as they are for personal use and
without resale.

Now on, you can freely see or buy such photos "Lumières d'Opale" (in
A4 format minimum): Click on http://www.licencephoto.com/public/photographe-6510.html.
Then search "OPALE".

Album number 46, named "January 2009-2" has been published. Thanks to
562 visitors of album number 45.

Next album will be published on June 14th.

If you want to tell your opinion or to be personally informed about
new publication, write to lumieresdopale@orange.fr .

I remind you that I am an amateur photographer, who likes French "Côte
d'Opale" and its light on the sea and on the sand of its extensive
beaches. I am living and working in Paris, and spend my holydays in
Merlimont ("Pas-de-Calais"). I use a digital still camera "Sony Cyber-
shot DSC-V1" bought in November 2003.

My website is, for me, an opportunity to progress and to share my
interest for photography and French "Côte d'Opale" with its visitors.
It is also the easiest way, and which less spends time, to collect
your observations and advices. It is without any lucrative
intention.

Congratulations.

Daniel

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 12:03 pm
From: Lumières d'Opale

Hello,

New album "Lumières d'Opale" has been published. If you are
interested, visit my website:
http://lumieresdopale.fr.monsite.orange.fr/index.jhtml or

http://lumieresdopale.fr.monsite.orange.fr

This is information about my website, but not a spam.

Now on, you can freely see or buy such photos "Lumières d'Opale" (in
A4 format minimum): Click on http://www.licencephoto.com/public/photographe-6510.html.
Then search "OPALE".

Album number 46, named "January 2009-2" has been published. Thanks to
562 visitors of album number 45.

Next album will be published on June 14th.

If you want to tell your opinion or to be personally informed about
new publication, write to lumieresdopale@orange.fr .

Congratulations.

Daniel

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TOPIC: Ungrateful Olympus
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/83d64699c3ca7926?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 10:12 am
From: RichA

They made a big to do about inviting all the "photographic
journalists" to Germany to view the new E-1P unveiling but no mention
was made about the people who keep Olympus afloat, the users. The
journalists of the photographic world have not exactly embraced
Olympus offerings. Some have been very hostile to them. Obviously,
you need the journalists (paid off or otherwise) to push the product,
but the users, many quite loyal to a fault deserved some mention, IMO.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 3:36 pm
From: daveFaktor

RichA wrote:
> They made a big to do about inviting all the "photographic
> journalists" to Germany to view the new E-1P unveiling but no mention
> was made about the people who keep Olympus afloat, the users. The
> journalists of the photographic world have not exactly embraced
> Olympus offerings. Some have been very hostile to them. Obviously,
> you need the journalists (paid off or otherwise) to push the product,
> but the users, many quite loyal to a fault deserved some mention, IMO.

Absolutely!
I'll ring my member of parliament right away and have them censured. How
dare they not invite me? I've had at least 2 Olympus cameras in the past
50 years. The ungrateful Sods!

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TOPIC: Is Canon about to do something good?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/e2fa28d295029dc5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 11:26 am
From: "Tzortzakakis Dimitrios"

? "RichA" <rander3127@gmail.com> ?????? ??? ??????
news:b0c858e2-22e9-45b9-9707-2fd2e10161de@q37g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> Making DSLRs in Japan? Wow!
>
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/news/Canon_revives_DSLR_factory_as_demand_surges_news_284006.html
>
My Canon Pixma printer, all its inks and all its paper are made in japan.
(Ee, hontoo ni so ne).

--
Tzortzakakis Dimitrios
major in electrical engineering
mechanized infantry reservist
hordad AT otenet DOT gr

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TOPIC: Canon PowerShot SX10 IS - any good?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/afb1d7a1a6711842?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 11:40 am
From: "Miguel"

"Ken" <none@none.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
news:4a29863f$0$23996$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> "Miguel" <responderalgrupo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:78t9kkF1nl6rnU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Ken" <none@none.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
>> news:4a295c68$0$18239$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "Miguel" <responderalgrupo@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:78o0umF1mskckU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Ken" <none@none.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje
>>>> news:4a26b33c$0$18252$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Clair Johnston" <cbj0129@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O42Ll.36274$v8.14800@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clair thanks for the informative I was beginning to have doubts but
>>>>>>> NOT really as the movable LCD is something I had an old Olympus and
>>>>>>> miss. So this feature alone is worth extra points.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you decide to get the camera, let us know your thoughts after a
>>>>>> reasonable period of use. Remember to read the manual to make full
>>>>>> use of the camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clair
>>>>>
>>>>> My opinion posted to the Dpreview site.
>>>>> It sure beats my sons Panasonic FZ18 by a very long margin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Opinion
>>>>> A few weeks on and so far so good. The best 'straight from the camera'
>>>>> shots with any digital camera I have owned. The colours are so
>>>>> authentic and the pictures are very sharp. Even my wife is very
>>>>> impressed and she is not interested in photography. There is minimal
>>>>> need for post shot processing - just a little sharpening in my case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Problems
>>>>> Only two aspects which nearly made me send the camera back after a few
>>>>> days. It was only the superb shots that stopped me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Firstly not being able to access the scenes options without using the
>>>>> control wheel/dial.
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, and really repeating myself, but my total disbelief that
>>>>> Canon could have such a clumsy physical control as the control
>>>>> wheel/dial. I am still not used to it as it is hit and miss - poor
>>>>> show on this Canon!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken, does the PowerShot SX10 IS posible the playback of the audio of
>>>> the videos?
>>>>
>>>> Because I read a problem with this option.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Miguel M. Yalán
>>>> http://mmyv.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Miguel
>>>
>>> I am not sure I fully understand your question???
>>>
>>> I never use my camnera for video clips but have just tried and it takes
>>> good quality videos with sound?
>>>
>>> Ask again and I will get back to you.
>>
>>
>> Hello Ken, thanks for your answer, after that you use the SX10 to video
>> clips, can you listen in the same camera the recorded audio?
>>
>> --
>> Miguel M. Yalán
>> http://mmyv.com
>
> In a word Yes.
> Ken

Thank you, I am thinking to buy a new camera but I don't decide yet if It
could be the PowerShot SX10 or the PowerShot G10.

--
Miguel M. Yalán
http://mmyv.com

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TOPIC: Practicing hydroponics
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/t/288895b813a28c10?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 6 2009 5:20 pm
From: "Miguel"

Hello:

I did some photos about personal practices of hydroponics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/3602179476/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/3602182448/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mmyv/3601373507/

It would be interesting to know your appreciations about photography.

--
Miguel M. Yalán
http://mmyv.com

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