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* website photo query - 1 messages, 1 author
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* How much would a good used Nikon ED5000 slide scanner be worth? - 6 messages,
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* out of scratch memory - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: website photo query
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/0b8927e7a44b9538?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 28 2009 5:15 pm
From: Sir F. A. Rien
That was 'true' eons ago when monitor technology was in its infancy.
Current monitors can easily go to 1600 x 1200, that being [on a 19" -
displayable at 18"] some 110 dpi.
As far as bothering to change the dpi setting, why?
Monitors read PIXELS not dpi !!!
I can set an image to 1 dpi and to 10,000 dpi image, put them up side by
side on the web and they will be exactly the same - unless I've resampled!
"CB" <CB@PrayForMe.com> found these unused words:
>
>"Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>news:4a46e760$0$15277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Thank you to all for your feedback...much appreciated.
>>
>> Paul
>
>I was once told by a dude who worked with AOL and pioneered the 'gif' format
>that monitors can't read beyond 75 dpi so take raw image hit ctrl > i >i,
>change the dpi. Notice the dimensions change. Change the values to what you
>want as long as they're not bigger than from where you started and
>'constrain proportions' is checked, obviously.
>
>>
>>
>> "Sir F. A. Rien" <jaSPAMc@gbr.online.com> wrote in message
>> news:1l8c459ninlof2h9uvqf8ofkdr6t2t31tf@4ax.com...
>>> "Paul Burdett" <pburdett@optusnet.com.au> found these unused words:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I've put together a website for my wife which displays photos of her
>>>>craft
>>>>items. I take the photos and edit in Photoshop CS3. The photos are 72dpi
>>>>when opened in Photoshop. I'm not sure if this is right, but I've been
>>>>cropping each photo as needed and saving as 300dpi, and then resampling
>>>>down
>>>>to the max allowed by the website host...which is 450dpi on the longest
>>>>side. This results in thumbnails on the website which can be clicked on
>>>>to
>>>>get a larger version. I'm thinking that I don't need to resample to
>>>>300dpi?
>>>>Is this correct? The file size of each thumbnail is around 40kb or so.
>>>>Any
>>>>advice appreciated.
>>>>Cheers,
>>>>
>>>>Paul
>>>>
>>>>The website is www.littleextras.net
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the web, the 'dpi' is unimportant !
>>>
>>> Crop, adjust, and SAVE AS [master].
>>> {Don't save over the original!]
>>>
>>> Resize to the thumbnail and SAVE AS [thumb].
>>>
>>> For me, I use a name with "_w" added for the full size WEB image and a
>>> "_t"
>>> for the thumbnail.
>>>
>>> This way they are 'stored' together and I can find them for uploading or
>>> later work.
>>>
>>> Example:
>>> cali-01_w.jpg 600x400 display page
>>> cali-01_t.jpg 188x125 thumbnail in the opening page.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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TOPIC: How much would a good used Nikon ED5000 slide scanner be worth?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/13032bce01cb0177?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 1:18 am
From: Peter
I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
slides.
It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
Does anybody have any better ideas?
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 4:36 am
From: Dudley Simons
Peter wrote:
> I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
> slides.
>
> It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
>
> Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
> item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
>
> Does anybody have any better ideas?
Hi Peter
I am afraid i can't help you much with a value on your
scanner...................
but I was rather hoping that as you have actually used this unit
extensively you might be able to pass on some information about it! -
Rather than the twaddle that some spotty faced oik who has never seen
one outside of its box let alone actually used one would spout when asked!
I have a big digitisation project coming up at work and am trying to
persuade the bean counters that we should invest in a decent slide
scanner and bulk feed unit.
How did you get on with it? I assume that you ran it with the software
supplied (I assume that Nikon actually supply scanning software!)rather
than via Photoshop. I take it that the Nikon app scans and then saves
files as it goes rather than trying to leave them all open within
Photoshop or CS. Is the scanning ap any good?
Any problems with the bulk feed mechanism. I guess that any slightly dog
eared kodachromes will have to be remounted into plastic, but how does
it cope with ultra thin Leitz mounts and old GAF mounts that are as
thick as paving slabs? Did you run any glass mounted slides through it?
Or slides with sticky labels that are lifting at the corners etc?
Did you find any 'gotchas' - those less than endearing short comings in
the software, scanner design or functionality that you only find out
once you start using it in anger?
Any pointers would be much appreciated - and good luck with findig a
buyer. :o)
regards
Dudley
PS - remove THE.OBVIOUS to reply off group!
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 5:23 am
From: Rob
Dudley Simons wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>> I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
>> slides.
>>
>> It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
>>
>> Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
>> item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
>>
>> Does anybody have any better ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Peter
>
> I am afraid i can't help you much with a value on your
> scanner...................
>
> but I was rather hoping that as you have actually used this unit
> extensively you might be able to pass on some information about it! -
> Rather than the twaddle that some spotty faced oik who has never seen
> one outside of its box let alone actually used one would spout when asked!
>
> I have a big digitisation project coming up at work and am trying to
> persuade the bean counters that we should invest in a decent slide
> scanner and bulk feed unit.
>
> How did you get on with it? I assume that you ran it with the software
> supplied (I assume that Nikon actually supply scanning software!)rather
> than via Photoshop. I take it that the Nikon app scans and then saves
> files as it goes rather than trying to leave them all open within
> Photoshop or CS. Is the scanning ap any good?
>
> Any problems with the bulk feed mechanism. I guess that any slightly dog
> eared kodachromes will have to be remounted into plastic, but how does
> it cope with ultra thin Leitz mounts and old GAF mounts that are as
> thick as paving slabs? Did you run any glass mounted slides through it?
> Or slides with sticky labels that are lifting at the corners etc?
>
> Did you find any 'gotchas' - those less than endearing short comings in
> the software, scanner design or functionality that you only find out
> once you start using it in anger?
>
> Any pointers would be much appreciated - and good luck with findig a
> buyer. :o)
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
>
> Dudley
>
>
>
> PS - remove THE.OBVIOUS to reply off group!
What do you have to digitise are they only 35mm slides and what do your
require as the end result?
As a slide scanner may not be the answer.
r
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 6:51 am
From: Dudley Simons
Rob wrote:
> Dudley Simons wrote:
>> Peter wrote:
>>> I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
>>> slides.
>>>
>>> It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
>>>
>>> Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
>>> item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any better ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> I am afraid i can't help you much with a value on your
>> scanner...................
>>
>> but I was rather hoping that as you have actually used this unit
>> extensively you might be able to pass on some information about it! -
>> Rather than the twaddle that some spotty faced oik who has never seen
>> one outside of its box let alone actually used one would spout when
>> asked!
>>
>> I have a big digitisation project coming up at work and am trying to
>> persuade the bean counters that we should invest in a decent slide
>> scanner and bulk feed unit.
>>
>> How did you get on with it? I assume that you ran it with the software
>> supplied (I assume that Nikon actually supply scanning software!)rather
>> than via Photoshop. I take it that the Nikon app scans and then saves
>> files as it goes rather than trying to leave them all open within
>> Photoshop or CS. Is the scanning ap any good?
>>
>> Any problems with the bulk feed mechanism. I guess that any slightly dog
>> eared kodachromes will have to be remounted into plastic, but how does
>> it cope with ultra thin Leitz mounts and old GAF mounts that are as
>> thick as paving slabs? Did you run any glass mounted slides through it?
>> Or slides with sticky labels that are lifting at the corners etc?
>>
>> Did you find any 'gotchas' - those less than endearing short comings in
>> the software, scanner design or functionality that you only find out
>> once you start using it in anger?
>>
>> Any pointers would be much appreciated - and good luck with findig a
>> buyer. :o)
>>
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dudley
>>
>>
>>
>> PS - remove THE.OBVIOUS to reply off group!
>
> What do you have to digitise are they only 35mm slides and what do your
> require as the end result?
>
>
> As a slide scanner may not be the answer.
>
> r
>
I take it you mean digitising the slides by shooting them with a camera?
I have a Bowens Illumitran which I have used in the past to digitize
slides very successfully with a Nikon D2X.
regards
Dudley
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 9:30 am
From: Rob
Dudley Simons wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> Dudley Simons wrote:
>>> Peter wrote:
>>>> I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
>>>> slides.
>>>>
>>>> It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
>>>> item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
>>>>
>>>> Does anybody have any better ideas?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Peter
>>>
>>> I am afraid i can't help you much with a value on your
>>> scanner...................
>>>
>>> but I was rather hoping that as you have actually used this unit
>>> extensively you might be able to pass on some information about it! -
>>> Rather than the twaddle that some spotty faced oik who has never seen
>>> one outside of its box let alone actually used one would spout when
>>> asked!
>>>
>>> I have a big digitisation project coming up at work and am trying to
>>> persuade the bean counters that we should invest in a decent slide
>>> scanner and bulk feed unit.
>>>
>>> How did you get on with it? I assume that you ran it with the software
>>> supplied (I assume that Nikon actually supply scanning software!)rather
>>> than via Photoshop. I take it that the Nikon app scans and then saves
>>> files as it goes rather than trying to leave them all open within
>>> Photoshop or CS. Is the scanning ap any good?
>>>
>>> Any problems with the bulk feed mechanism. I guess that any slightly dog
>>> eared kodachromes will have to be remounted into plastic, but how does
>>> it cope with ultra thin Leitz mounts and old GAF mounts that are as
>>> thick as paving slabs? Did you run any glass mounted slides through it?
>>> Or slides with sticky labels that are lifting at the corners etc?
>>>
>>> Did you find any 'gotchas' - those less than endearing short comings in
>>> the software, scanner design or functionality that you only find out
>>> once you start using it in anger?
>>>
>>> Any pointers would be much appreciated - and good luck with findig a
>>> buyer. :o)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dudley
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PS - remove THE.OBVIOUS to reply off group!
>>
>> What do you have to digitise are they only 35mm slides and what do
>> your require as the end result?
>>
>>
>> As a slide scanner may not be the answer.
>>
>> r
>>
>
>
> I take it you mean digitising the slides by shooting them with a camera?
>
> I have a Bowens Illumitran which I have used in the past to digitize
> slides very successfully with a Nikon D2X.
>
>
> regards
>
>
> Dudley
Thats what I use, results are satisfactory, quick to use, small file
size etc.
Slides or tranny stuff that's for critical use are scanned.
But for most yes just copy them with the Bowens with the bulbs.
Very rarely does the scanner get used.
r
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 10:16 am
From: Peter
Dudley Simons <drs1005@esc.cam.ac.uk> wrote
>Peter wrote:
>> I bought one of these, with the bulk feeder, to scan in a few thousand
>> slides.
>>
>> It paid for itself on that one job but I now want to sell it.
>>
>> Obviously there is Ebay but this is a fairly pricey and specialised
>> item. I think the lot cost about £1500.
>>
>> Does anybody have any better ideas?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Peter
>
>I am afraid i can't help you much with a value on your
>scanner...................
>
>but I was rather hoping that as you have actually used this unit
>extensively you might be able to pass on some information about it! -
>Rather than the twaddle that some spotty faced oik who has never seen
>one outside of its box let alone actually used one would spout when asked!
>
>I have a big digitisation project coming up at work and am trying to
>persuade the bean counters that we should invest in a decent slide
>scanner and bulk feed unit.
>
>How did you get on with it? I assume that you ran it with the software
>supplied (I assume that Nikon actually supply scanning software!)rather
>than via Photoshop. I take it that the Nikon app scans and then saves
>files as it goes rather than trying to leave them all open within
>Photoshop or CS. Is the scanning ap any good?
The software is Nikon's own and can save to BMP, TIFF, Jpeg etc. It is
clunky but works. Loads of options for things like dust removal (does
a double scan) and enhancement which I never used.
I scanned the lot into uncompressed TIFFs, about 80MB each, and then
batch-reduced them in Photoshop into ~ 7MB Jpegs - simply because I
*hope* that PS does a better job of it than any other software out
there. It is certainly practically impossible to see a difference with
the naked eye, at 100% zoom.
>Any problems with the bulk feed mechanism. I guess that any slightly dog
>eared kodachromes will have to be remounted into plastic, but how does
>it cope with ultra thin Leitz mounts and old GAF mounts that are as
>thick as paving slabs? Did you run any glass mounted slides through it?
> Or slides with sticky labels that are lifting at the corners etc?
I didn't have problems with any slides, 1970s onwards. Damaged ones
won't work, sure, but I didn't have any of those. I did scan glass
mounted ones too. The feeder takes about 50 at a time.
I think if you will have problems then it might be with the very thin
paper ones. But for me everything worked.
>Did you find any 'gotchas' - those less than endearing short comings in
>the software, scanner design or functionality that you only find out
>once you start using it in anger?
The software is a bit odd in the way it works but once you suss it, it
just runs and runs.
The quality is stunning - as good as the film itself ever managed.
I am uploading some images here
http://www.zen74158.zen.co.uk/ed5000/
One of these, file3012.jpg, was used to compare the ED5000 against
another Nikon scanner costing about £5000 and neither myself nor the
shop could see any difference.
>Any pointers would be much appreciated - and good luck with findig a
>buyer. :o)
Well, mine will be for sale; looking for about £500 :) In original
packaging, with cables, software, etc.
I was quoted a min of 50p each for commercial scanning, and one firm
wanted £10 each!
My email is above but replace o with 0 and 0 with o.
>regards
>
>
>
>
>Dudley
>
>
>
>PS - remove THE.OBVIOUS to reply off group!
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TOPIC: out of scratch memory
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.graphics.photoshop/t/6b4cca95c7c895a7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 11:22 pm
From: pshaw@emmet.com
during various procedures in photoshop, like converting a bunch of
large raw files to jpg's, or using the magic wand on a large image, i
get a message "out of scratch memory" or a more generic "this
procedure cannot be done" (or something like this)
i have a separate hard drive being used just for photoshop's scratch
memory and have devoted 70% of free memory to photoshop (i'm running 4
gigs in windows xp pro) ....
i have turned off almost all ongoing programs (anti-virus etc) which
indeed does help ....
any suggestions to provide more scratch memory?
tia
steve
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