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TOPIC: BUG: Tablet pressure - broken
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/7cca6267195c3d2a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 4:26 am
From: Lukas_Dubeda@adobeforums.com

Thanks for the tip, however, the newer tablet drivers for Wacom fix the pressure issue in CS4, however, they break a right-click in my TotalCMD window?!

How strange is that?

Man, I'm really, seriously, getting pissed off by this whole "work just got more fun" bullshit in Vista! Nothing works in tandem, you fix one thing, break another one. Seriously, what the hell?! Where is the problem? Wacom? Adobe? Microsoft? God?

Screw this, I'm getting Linux and Gimp, this is bullshit! Can't get anything done by broken compatibilities, direct x, drivers, anything!

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 is a disaster
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 4:29 am
From: Lawrence_Hudetz@adobeforums.com

Bugs.

Team A develops a program or an app. They are the basic engineering team. Their work becomes the core for Team B. Team B has been created or enabled by marketing to take A's work and put a skin on it, and wouldn't it be nice to ad this feature, make that feature more useful or glitzy, etc. B develops what marketing wants. Now, the design begins to be buggier than the early alpha version of Team A. In fact, when the remaining bugs for A's product gets resolved, team B's product generates evenmore bugs. So they talk. Team B files a bug report that starts out in the setup description with "Install the Team B app". "Hold on!", says A. "We didn't create that. You did." "Yeah", says B, "but when you fixed big number XYZ, we have another problem show up." A says that's not our problem. But in the spirit of cooperation, A takes a look, and, with it's core running fine they cannot generate the bug. Bickering starts. Team A issues a final release, whereby Team B rejects that ....

You know the story, I'm sure. Now, Team A and Team B are separate companies, and the battle is more like a marriage gone bad.

Could it be that Adobe is asking the video card and driver to do things the card vendors haven't anticipated, and in fixing things for Adobe users, it fouls the nest for other users, causing a cascade of bugs and fixes? On both sides?

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TOPIC: Memory problems with CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/304dbca755803c32?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 4:47 am
From: Kari_Pietila@adobeforums.com

Tom,

Your solution for the problem really did work although it is hard to understand why. By setting the percentage to what you suggested allowed PS to use virtual memory and at least 7 Canon EOS 1D MIII raw files could be merged to HDR. Thanks

Kari

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TOPIC: AdobeCMapsAll.msi install error
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/bdab43543c251611?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:00 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

if you want to go to vista 64, yes, enough time has come out. by all accounts it's stable.

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TOPIC: CS4: Image blurry at arbitrary zoom levels
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c9202e579633504b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:15 am
From: Swordcs@adobeforums.com

Hello again!

first to say - sorry about my bad english.i hope you understand me anyway. since my last post in this thread it seems that many people have mentioned this issue and i am really looking forward to a solution. me and my friends, we tried since the last post following: we reinstalled every driver , wacom tablett (old and new ones) again the grafik drivers and, we even reinstalled blank windows (vista 32 and 64 and xp 32 and 64).we tried everything... with and withoud service pack and so one (we also changed resloution). we now really tried everything...and allways the same...blurry and unsharp. so what is us telling this....no matter if it is vista or xp...no matter how many ram you have, no matter what grafikcard manufacturer you have....this issue is allways here on all 4 systems. i really wonder that here not more people are talking about that problem cause it is really a major problem. also in the thread <http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b6d78b/0> people talk about lags and everything else, but not about this issue and in my opinion this is no question if or if not this problem belongs to gpu problems - it is definetly a gpu problem. as a last piece of hope i tried the registry trick for old gpu´s (allthough i have a gtx260) and guess what....it didn´t changed anything. so...after hours and hours of trying and trying and hoping we really do not know what to do and it is really frustrating don´t you others think so?

wish you all a nice day!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 6:06 am
From: PeterK.@adobeforums.com

How blurry is blurry? I assumed that with the new zoom features, the images would naturally appear slightly "blurry," since pixels would have to be interpolated, whereas in previous versions Photoshop would only show the actual whole pixels in the image. There was a discussion we once had about people complaining that the images only looked good at 100%, 50%, 25%, etc. whereas it looked stair-stepped at other percentages, and I think the general consensus was that we DIDN'T want photoshop showing interpolated (fake) images. Showing only exact pixels and knowing that some pixels are thrown out incongruously at odd percentages was more desirable than having interpolation of any kind showing "fake" pixels. I assumed that when these new zooming features were introduced, the powers that be at Adobe decided otherwise.

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TOPIC: Is it possible to protect PDF files from local saving?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/06eb8e6443ad4853?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:20 am
From: John J

Dave wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:55:49 -0600, John J <nohj@droffats.ten> wrote:
>
>> Dave wrote:
>>
>>> It's said light heartedly, but still stating the fact that published
>>> files is royal game unless this is what you do to it:
>>> http://images4.fotopic.net/?iid=yvlm4g&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1
>>> This (plus others) was uploaded last night
>>> and is more than a hundred years old.
>> We have drifted from the OP's subject, but it has been answered so - Yer
>> kidding, right? You cannot copyright that piece. It is way into the
>> public domain.
>
> Even a photo of the moon can be copyrighted, if I took it.
> Not the moon, but the photo. Is it so difficult to understand?

I see your point, now.

To clarify: if you were to scan or photograph each page, then would you
own the copyright for the set as it appeared in those images? Case:
Would you expect to be protected from others making scans/photos and
selling theirs?

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TOPIC: Error using "Rotate View Tool" and warning on load Photoshop CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/a8150e2f48395919?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:24 am
From: CR_Henderson@adobeforums.com

Dan Barba:..."No GPU options available with Photoshop Standard"

Might get an answer in this topic:

<http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b6c468/0>

Which is titled:

"GPU Acceleration Not Supported in PS CS4 Standard"

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TOPIC: is it possible to install CS-4 32 bit BUT NOT 64 bit?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/66269e74900d13ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:32 am
From: Bob Levine

Over the last few weeks I've noticed the same thing. I have no clue
about why.

Bob

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TOPIC: Cannot install Photoshop CS4 upgrade
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/00e7687189009e0b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:31 am
From: Robert_Vance@adobeforums.com

Dave, thanks again for your suggestion. I ran CS3Clean Script at level 2 but no solution, so then I ran it at level 3. Still no solution and, much worse, now no Photoshop or Bridge! I backed up data files the Script program recommended, but it seems to have removed the entire CS3 program. I do have my original downloaded CS3 package, but still it will not install: clicking setup.exe is followed by a message about initializing, and then nothing. And still, my purchased CS4 upgrade will not install: as always, after clicking setup.exe, nothing happens.
Very frustrating. I do not want to reinstall Windows XP if that means I have to reinstall all my programs and re-tweak all their settings. I can call Adobe support again, but their technician was not very helpful in my previous call. If you have any further ideas, please let me know, and thanks for all your help.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:49 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

I do not want to reinstall Windows XP if that means I have to reinstall
all my programs and re-tweak all their settings.

you can reinstall right over the existing install, that will refresh the os without you having to reinstall everything. except patches. make sure if you do so you reinstall all ms updates.

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TOPIC: CS4--Cannot Open JPGs directly into PS
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/afc3841b7015688c?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:32 am
From: Fran_Saunders@adobeforums.com

They weren't opening anywhere, but I was able to get them to open into Bridge by changing the association.

Yes, I did remove CS3, but I reinstalled CS4 but that didn't help and the associate section doesn't work for CS4 AT ALL. Default programs will not let me associate CS4 with anything.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 6:25 am
From: Fran_Saunders@adobeforums.com

Thank you to all for suggestions. I am posting the solution in case other people run into the same problem. This is a registry issue. Run CCleaner until there are no problems to fix. You will then be able to use "open with" to associate both the psd and jpg files with CS4. At least, it worked for me.

Fran

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 6:39 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

This seems to have happened to a few people. If the registry cleaner in CCleaner fixes it, that's another recommendation for this great little utility.

Registry Mechanic is another good registry cleaner, although it's not free.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 8:05 am
From: Rodney_Rivers@adobeforums.com

I was having the same problem. Registry Mechanic was the solution I used as well.

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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 Experience, Problems & Questions
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/0f084d81511ce72b?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 5:32 am
From: Ellie_Dee@adobeforums.com

Pickman
Regarding "Photoshop does not like to be called from other applications," I have been wrestling with a similar problem. I use Photoshop Elements 5.0 to organize my photos and had been using CS2 for editing. I recently installed CS4 on a new main hard drive and did not install CS2. When I select an image in the Organizer and set it to edit the image in Photoshop, CS4 will open but will not accept the image. I get a message that "An error occurred while attempting to edit the file in the external editor." Like you, I have to work through Bridge by setting it as an additional editor. From Bridge I can open the image in CS4. This is certainly clumsy. I have been trying to figure out a way to open images from Organizer in CS4 which is designed behavior, but I've had no luck so far.
Ellie Dee

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TOPIC: Catastrophic User Interface error in ps11, screenshot included
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c3a94bcd46a6ab44?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 1:30 pm
From: Bob Levine

Acro...you are violating the TOS you agreed to by spamming this forum
with the same message over and over.

You've managed, in the brief time you've been here, to come of as
nothing but a whiner with little or no credibility.

This is your only warning, stop it now.

Bob

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:25 am
From: Acro_Bat@adobeforums.com

Look Levine, these trolls are in here causing the problem you are getting so bent out of shape over. You have already shown your inability to understand the VERY SIMPLE, STUPID BUG that has existed for years, by calling it, and me, a baseless complaint/complainer, right before you killed my original thread (again, thanks to your homeboys, who you can't see make this place a joke).

It's obvious that CS4 is as buggy as they come, and it's obvious it was released WAY BEFORE its time. Now, LOOK at this (I've posted it for you to READ) -- don't bury your head and say, no,no, there is no catastrophic bug, no, no. Try and understand how stupid a bug this is, and after all these years. It will be there next time, and next time, and next time.

And this isn't even about the other bugs I've found. CS4 (PS11) is so buggy it's outrageous. Nothing this bad, and I mean BAD as in terribly bad quality, should ever be put out to the public. EVERYTHING is SO SLOW. Jerky laggy windows that seem to be stuck on with glue; windows that redraw over redraw (with transparent grid showing through) as if the lights are about to go out; controls that sometimes DON'T WORK one time, and I have to close the file/reload; OpenGL working fine then all of a sudden turning off, either for evertthing, or just ONE FRICKIN' WINDOW (man, that's really pathetic), and I can go on and on, but what's the point?

Adobe can't fix these problems, or it would have already, before this mess was released. And these boards? It just goes to show that Adobe has gone waaaay downhill. It needs to hire competent people. Whoever is there now should be fired. You too, but I doubt you get paid to do this. I mean, it's got to be the worst thing to do, and idiot could do it. Right, that is obvious.

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I've already said how to do it back in #5

<http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=windowblacksimplestufffr9.png>

change the window to black and the text to gray. Nothing else needs to be done, though a restart won't hurt. To refresh those with heads in the sand, I get this for those two simple changes:

<http://img230.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ps11dropdownblackonblacdi2.jpg>

Here it is when I change the window BG to red and the text to yellow, I get this

<http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ps11dropdownblacknotyelbt5.jpg>

As you can see, there are menus with yellow on red (these are the correct menus), black on red (those are the wrong ones, which are ALL OVER THE PLACE), and then there's that funky regular system menu right BETWEEN the yellow on red (smoothing menu) and the black on red (font weight), in this example.

Yes, it's been like this for years, only is much worse now. Many more menus are hard-coded to use black as the text color.

- - - --

So Levine, you and your homeboys can down another bottle in celebration. Surely you are as drunk as a skunk to not see those idiots for what they are.

I'm outta here, what a waste of my time.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:51 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

stop whining and change your interface colors.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 8:08 am
From: jcates@adobeforums.com

I'm outta here, what a waste of my time.

Well, yeah. But some of us found it entertaining (thank you, Dave, for those gifs). Does this mean you won't be back?

stop whining and change your interface colors.

While this would work, he clearly doesn't want to do the simple thing that would solve (one of) his problems.

I admit that I change my UI colors but only slightly. I can't deal with giant white backgrounds (too bright) so I make them a shade of grey. Never had a problem with it.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 8:21 am
From: Bob Levine

Read only...though why anyone would want to is beyond my comprehension.

Bob

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TOPIC: wacom/clone tool weirdness in photoshop
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/2f77fb7f14a0ccd9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:16 am
From: "bolo_2"

Are you using a pen on the tablet or the mouse?
"Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:gfaqqe$d0b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> Not sure if the right forum.
> Using studio's PSCS4 with Intuos3 6x11 tablet (love it!)
>
> Ok...I can paint with the brush tool., etc and all the painting matches
> the brush size cursor and softness/hardness, but when I use the clone
> tool-no matter the brush size it only clones as a tiny, hard-edged brush,
> usually just the size of the crosshair in the cursor circle and only with
> hard edges.
> I've checked settings..all is fine. The weird thing though...I grab the
> wired USB Logitech mouse and the clone tool works like its supposed
> to-brush size and hardness as I selected....go back to the tablet and I
> get the same tiny, hard-edged brush.
> I've reset prefs, checked the brushes palette for any setting I might have
> missed, but nothin'
>
> any ideas amongst all ya experts??
>
> By the way...CS4 rocks!!! Just the canvas rotate tool is enough to make
> it worth the upgrade for retouchers.
>
> Thanks ya'all
>
>
>
>
> Photoshop Retouching & Digital Artwork
> www.PixelKat.com
>

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:29 am
From: "bolo_2"

nevermind, I read the nest note. Hum, i have had the problem using the
mouse but not the pen. Sorry, i could not help.
"bolo_2" <someone@somplacelse.com> wrote in message
news:FghSk.58441$XT1.50314@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Are you using a pen on the tablet or the mouse?
> "Michael" <michaelwh@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:gfaqqe$d0b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> Not sure if the right forum.
>> Using studio's PSCS4 with Intuos3 6x11 tablet (love it!)
>>
>> Ok...I can paint with the brush tool., etc and all the painting matches
>> the brush size cursor and softness/hardness, but when I use the clone
>> tool-no matter the brush size it only clones as a tiny, hard-edged brush,
>> usually just the size of the crosshair in the cursor circle and only with
>> hard edges.
>> I've checked settings..all is fine. The weird thing though...I grab the
>> wired USB Logitech mouse and the clone tool works like its supposed
>> to-brush size and hardness as I selected....go back to the tablet and I
>> get the same tiny, hard-edged brush.
>> I've reset prefs, checked the brushes palette for any setting I might
>> have missed, but nothin'
>>
>> any ideas amongst all ya experts??
>>
>> By the way...CS4 rocks!!! Just the canvas rotate tool is enough to make
>> it worth the upgrade for retouchers.
>>
>> Thanks ya'all
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Photoshop Retouching & Digital Artwork
>> www.PixelKat.com
>>
>
>

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TOPIC: Web Page from Photoshop cs3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/ed4fce548de23e2a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:28 am
From: "bolo_2"

In Photoshop CS2 i had seen and used a tutorial to create a web page with
rollovers from Photoshop. Yes, i know Photoshop is not the best tool to do
this with, however, it could still be done. It used Imageready to edit the
roll-overs, HOWEVER, cs3 no longer utilizes Imageready, so any suggestions
on how to do this in CS3? Thanks in advance.

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TOPIC: Photomerge with several 1000 images. Experience?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/a0c91a67b0522af9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 11 2008 7:45 am
From: Gerhard_Seiffert@adobeforums.com

I'm about to buy a new PC for my company now (Dell is required since we only buy Dell). Would you consider this to be a good choice, when the goal is to get most out of Photoshop:

Dell Precision T5400 64bit
- Quad Core Intel® Xeon® Processor X5470 (3.3GHz,2X6M L2,1333)
- Genuine Windows Vista® Business Bonus-Windows XP Professional downgrade
- 768MB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX 4600, Dual Monitor DVI Capable
- 8GB, DDR2 SDRAM FBD Memory, 667MHz, ECC (4 DIMMS)
- C2 All SATA drives, Non-RAID, 2 drive total configuration
- 80GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache™
- 320GB SATA 3.0Gb/s,7200 RPM Hard Drive with 8MB DataBurst Cache™

For $1000 more there is a 1.5GB PCIe x16 nVidia Quadro FX 5600, Dual Monitor DVI Capable graphics card available. Would you think this is worth it for Photoshop?

Also, would you think a Quad Core is better (for Photoshop) than a Dual Core?

Thanks for any feedback,
G

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