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TOPIC: Photoshop CS4 is a disaster
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e9e63cd766f5577f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:06 am
From: David_Nicol@adobeforums.com

I have the lagging problem (and I have an Intel processor), but I wouldn't call CS4 a disaster. The rotating canvas (something Painter already had 10 years ago) removes my number one complaint about Photoshop as a pure drawing application.

I'm really surprised that in their beta testing, Adobe never encountered the lag problem, considering how many others like myself experience it now. Maybe their list of beta testers is too narrow. They should have done a public beta release like they did with Dreamweaver, and have thousands of testers.

I trust that Adobe has put top priority on solving this. Once it's solved, then I'll be delighted with CS4. Annoying, should have been tested more before relase, but not by any means a disaster.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:32 am
From: Kwan_Parker@adobeforums.com

Like others, I experienced lagging and momentary ghosting when moving images.

On average my images are 2 -3 megs and seldom larger than 5 megs.

Windows XP SP3
Nvidia 7900GS 256 (latest driver)
4 megs memory (3.5 useable)

For my purposes, slow response or lagging and ghosting was resolved by increasing the cache to 6, enabling OpenGL Drawing but unchecking everything in the Advanced Settings window except Advanced Drawing.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:30 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

P.S. DOES ADOBE HAVE A RETURN/EXCHANGE POLICY?

return for 30 days. call customer support.

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TOPIC: CS4 - Float All Windows
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/7d7029d9e25f3a21?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:12 am
From: grahamtav@adobeforums.com

Is it possible for the 'float all windows' option to stay or be permanent.
Despite setting this option everytime I open a new image it reverts back to the 'tab' option - or is it just me!
Graham

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:23 am
From: Kwan_Parker@adobeforums.com

Yes.

Go to Edit . . . Preferences . . . Interface

Under Panels and Documents, remove the check mark from "Open documents as tabs."

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:37 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

nevermind

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:28 am
From: grahamtav@adobeforums.com

thanks for your help Kwan - your a star!!

Freeagent, you were nearly a star!

Graham

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:37 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

s'okay fa. we still like you. XD

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:36 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

you were nearly a star!

Oh well...

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TOPIC: CS4 & Win XP Pro SP3
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/d40455bd5a6ab9e8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:17 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

I used the /3GB switch on and off with xp. My conclusion was that it wasn't really worth it, because I would always end up with scratch sizes above available RAM anyway. I saw much more performance boost by setting up a dedicated RAID 0 array as scratch disk.

In addition, it only works as advertised if you're running Photoshop by itself. With heavy multitasking it can actually slow things down because Windows will have to page out the other apps more.

So it might work for some, but it depends on what you do.

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TOPIC: AGP opengl cards
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f141ccdb1d7e11dc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:32 am
From: KCinWisc

I need to update my graphics card and was looking into options that
cs4 can fully take advantage of. Video, photoshop, all possibilities.
My downfall is that I dont have a pci express motherboard. Does anyone
have any suggestions for an opengl 2.0 compatible card in a midrange
($200-300) that will perform solidly. Please don't recommend upgrade
motherboard....I looked into it and financially it is not an option
(entails cpu upgrade and new Vista). Ive been looking at nvidia cards
(found some good deals on quadro lines) but according to specs, agp
Quadro cards only support opengl 1.5 (unless I am misreading).

TIA

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TOPIC: Of Interest To Anyone with Lag In Photoshop Extended CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/f5376e115763a4e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:38 am
From: chris_farrell@adobeforums.com

Did you install your motherboards chipset drivers? I have experienced lag in PS CS3 and CS4 and it has almost always been down to scratch drive performance / cache level and ram. If your hard drives ( asuming you have more than one for photoshop ) are not running at optimum then you will experience a performance hit.

Installing the chipsets drivers first thing after the reformat is a really good idea....

Hope this helps.

BTW...I don't have any lag any more after making sure the above is in place.

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TOPIC: cs3 crashing on start up
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/be6610ca0eca71d0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:35 am
From: Elaine_Williams@adobeforums.com

Freeagent,

Well I went home yesterday and started removing fonts and when I finished the 1st section, I was able to log back into Photoshop and I was also able to finish my project and meet deadline.

Thanks

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:41 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

That's great, Elaine :)

It's good to know the things we tell people to do actually work!

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TOPIC: Moving from comp to CSS web layout?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/786fed93abd8aac8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:44 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

Don't worry Mylenium. You're doing fine.

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TOPIC: File window content disappears in CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/fdab245391720b03?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:54 am
From: Glenn_UK@adobeforums.com

I am very much with Nick on this.

Chris, you are constantly telling those of us experiencing serious display problems while using Adobe-Approved cards to update our GPU Driver to the latest available, which we do without (in many cases) the problems being resolved.

I am struggling to make sense of your position: on the one hand you maintain that it's the incompetence of even the latest drivers which is preventing v.11 from performing properly with (some?) approved cards; while on the other you say these same cards a) have worked successfully in your testing and b) seemingly work successfully now for other users?

It must follow that there are known Drivers which did and do interpret and implement your code successfully with these Cards; and that we with the ReDraw problems are not using them.

If we were told which these successful drivers happen to be we could at least then establish whether or not we need to be looking elsewhere for a cause of these debilitating problems.

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TOPIC: text layer needs to be updated ??
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e3d1361b33b0b4ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:02 am
From: Mark_J_Peterson@adobeforums.com

Hi Ed, thanks for your help.
I don't think I can resetting my prefs as this problem doesn't occur often, so I can't verify the effects unfortunately. And on a long term basis I need a lot of prefs settings as they are for my work, so ... (besides, I don't see any settings related to this problem anyway).

"in another font" ==> other than what? I have several different fonts in my document. They all displayed in the text tool's drop down menu and were chosen this way. It's also not a missing font problem or a badly installed font, because when I click on "update", the file opens fine, all text layers are there, look like they should and are text-editable. Subsequent saving and re-opening isn't subject to the error-message anymore.

So there are no immediate problems for me, but it's still obvious, that I'm doing something wrong, otherwise I wouldn't get this error message from times to times.

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TOPIC: can i keep installed cs4 cs3 and cs2 on a pc
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/8dc99633876cfff8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:33 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

yes, they're all installed by default in totally seperate folders. just don't mix them up (like copying plugins from one to another).

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TOPIC: cs3 extended to cs4 (non-extended) upgrade still not worked out...
hopes dim
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/42f7f8ac8a3e5181?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:35 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

milbump.

anyone heard from john nack on this? can he comment here? or can anyone in the know comment? i'd like to get a copy, but i'm not sure what direction i'm going yet. probably the extended, but i'd like to know my options before proceeding, and i'd like to get it cleared up for others with the same question, if possible.

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TOPIC: CS-3 Standard. Type color problem
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/cbeac3674b58e2cc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:40 am
From: Bill_Lamp@adobeforums.com

Thank you.

I will try them, in the order you suggest, this evening when I get back to the Photoshop computer.

Bill

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TOPIC: Making a Touched Up Photo look real
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/1a7ca7446e190cd5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:39 am
From: OldBob

This might help:

<http://biorust.com/tutorials/detail/163/en/>

They have a lot of good tutorials there.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:43 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

just wanted to pop in and say what a great thread this is so far guys! thank you!

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TOPIC: CS4 lag. What graphic card will it take?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/4eea63c573b83340?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:40 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

you know how those "arteest" types are!

Oh please, Dave. Artiste. If it's not too much trouble.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:37 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

no problem john. if you're new-ish here, welcome to the forum. this is a great place to learn, if you're willing to put up with the cranky regulars! :)

(you know how those "arteest" types are! ;))

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 6:42 am
From: dave_milbut@adobeforums.com

what do i know. i'm a hacker.

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Change layer content in Photoshop CS4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/e5e16f51deb6ae70?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 12:01 am
From: Richard_Z.@adobeforums.com

I'm also very confused. I found the "Change Layer Content..." option helpful and don't see a good alternative.

Original method:
- Draw vector shape
- Then switch to gradient and tweak the colours.

Best method I can figure out now:
- Create gradient layer... don't know colours yet since it's not at right size.
- Delete layer mask
- Add "Hide all" vector mask
- Shift-Draw vector shape
- Then re-open gradient settings to set colours.

Gradient Overlay is NOT an alternative, and was handy for doing a double gradient effect on one layer.

Is there an actual good alternative I'm missing? This is really annoying...

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TOPIC: Catastrophic User Interface error in ps11, screenshot included
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c3a94bcd46a6ab44?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 12:11 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

Dave, that's just beautiful...keep them coming.

While the first one is clearly picking up where Samuel Beckett left us hanging, I think I can detect a hint of Francis Bacon in the second.

This made my day XD

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 1:50 am
From: Freeagent@adobeforums.com

John,

I think you'll agree that this is well beyond "proclaiming individuality". What we're seeing here is "me against the world".

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TOPIC: Smart scale brushes - cs4
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/3963e549dba70adb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 1:14 am
From: halogenbarn@adobeforums.com

Thanks!
It doesn't work as good as i hoped, its kinda tricky with on wacom pen, well maybe its just me :). Im still waiting for a function to rotate the brush while you are working..

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TOPIC: cs4 on XP sp3 move & re-draw
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/b431ecd9d72bce3f?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 1:13 am
From: mantralightroom@adobeforums.com

Hi
I run cs4 on xp sp3 and it runs good

but i don't like the re-draw behavior

for example if i zoom , and whith the hand tool i move the photo
photoshop re-draws the angles

is there a way to disable this behavior ?

thanks

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 2:28 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com

In some cases yes, in some not. This is related to how the hardware accelerated functions are synced to the rest of the screen redraw. Depending on your screen layout and general graphics config, you may disable/enable the "wait for vsync" and similar options and see if it makes any difference...

Mylenium

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:24 am
From: mantralightroom@adobeforums.com

I tried to disable wait for vsync but nothing

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:32 am
From: Stefan_Klein@adobeforums.com

Don`t know, if I understand the OP right. In my case if I move a large image with the hand tool (maybe flick-panning) I sometimes get to extremely blurry areas that get redrawn and sharp after maybe half a second. Why is that? Is it because of not enough graphics memory (but I have 512MB)?

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TOPIC: CS4: Image blurry at arbitrary zoom levels
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/c9202e579633504b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 1:30 am
From: Swordcs@adobeforums.com

Mylenium sorry but...

am cs4 trial user and 4 of my friends too. for example my system amd 6400+ and a gtx 260 and 4 gig of ram an vista x64 sp1. the systems of my friends: xp32 sp3 2 gig ram and a 7950 gx2 , xp32 sp2 2 gig ram and ati 4850 and the last vista32 sp3 gtx380 and 3 gig ram and we ALL do have that strange issue. if we zoom out the pictues gets VERY unsharp - if we zoom in they are sharp....for example..if we zoom out and the picture is unsharp..we klick the window and undock it...the picture becomes sharp...if we leave the mouse button it gets unsharp again...as if a unsharp mask filter renders the windwos...its UGLY...i think i get eye cancer.we tried everything...drivers...old ones..new ones...motherboard drivers...anti antialising settings mapping texturing..everything..NOTHING....i do a LOT of people photography and landscape..with this problems it is not possible for me to zoom out and look at the whole picture and decide if it is good or not..my eyes are beginning to burn after 10 minutes of work and i work on 2 eizos 19". if i turn of opengl this issue is no more but cs4 is verry laggy then and slow...even if i adjust cache and memory settings. when i activate open gl and go to advanced settings and uncheck averything this issue is still happening....VERY unsharp.

so now..my trial is running and cs4 is a disaster so far to me. if this will not be corrected soon or no one can help me i thing i will keep cs3 till cs5 will come.

please help us!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 2:47 am
From: John_Umlauf@adobeforums.com

I've found that CS4 is also much slower at rendering picture packages.
P4 3 GHz, SATA HDs with dedicated scratch drive, XP32, NVIDIA 8600GT, 2GB RAM --- Photoshop 6.0 was lightning fast compared to CS4!

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TOPIC: Photoshop preferences keep getting reset
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/ba1565b8dfa7c430?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 2:15 am
From: Mylenium@adobeforums.com

Check the permissions for your config directory (Documents and Settings/Janet/Application Data/Adobe/Photoshop CS3). Likewise, check whether you have full access to the registry. Another possible cause may be some automated system protection and/ or backup system, which will restore the original prefs file after a while because it doesn't consider the new one to be valid. This would also apply to server-side profiles, update distribution and syncing in general.

Mylenium

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 2:56 am
From: John_Umlauf@adobeforums.com

QUOTING MJ Murphy above:

"Moving images around the screen leaves a copy of the image where it used to be for a second. Very distracting. When I zoom in on a 20 MB image, in CS3 I can click the hand tool, drag the image around at will and it moves as smoothly as if I were moving a paper image around on a smooth surface. Cs4 is another story. As I click and drag I see a bunch of squares getting redrawn all over the screen. Very distracting."

SAME HERE!

AND: CS4 renders picture packages much more slowly than even 6.0 which is what I was running before we bought the full version of CS4.
CS4 does not take advantage of CPU power because it rarely uses more than 60% when rendering. (XP32, P4 HT 3.0GHz, 2GB RAM, dedicated scratch drive). Very disappointing...

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:08 am
From: John_Umlauf@adobeforums.com

P.S. DOES ADOBE HAVE A RETURN/EXCHANGE POLICY?

I would be happy to go to CS3 instead, even for the same money.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:31 am
From: ProArtist@adobeforums.com

The ironic thing is... if you go into the liquify tool, its FASTER at panning, redrawing, brush responsiveness and it liquifize smooth as silk...

BUT when you go back into CS4 with or without GPU opengl enabled... Its so slow in comparison.

Perhaps its the fact that my desktop resolution is 2560x1600 (since i'm using a 30 inch monitor...

But i dont think thats it, especially when you factor in that with opengl off, CS4 is still far slower than CS3.

GPU on and off in CS4 is roughly the same slow performance. The GPU slows down the performance a bit more... but overall, the program runs nothing like CS3 did.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:37 am
From: "John Joslin"

Is that 2560x1600 the native resolution of the monitor?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 5:06 am
From: David_Nicol@adobeforums.com

I trust that Adobe has put top priority on solving this. Once it's solved, then I'll be delighted with CS4. Annoying, should have been tested more before relase, but not by any means a disaster.

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:04 am
From: Mark_J_Peterson@adobeforums.com

Hi. Strange thing just happened to me:

I save a CS3 .psd file with text layers (they are actively installed on my XP system, they appear in the Photoshop type tool's drop-down list).

I close the file. I reopen it three minutes later (because I found a typo).

Upon opening, PS says:

Some text layers might need to be updated before they can be used for
vector based output. Do you want to update these layers now ?

When I click on "Update", the file opens fine, all text layers display properly and can be edited.

This does not always happen, but it already happened a couple of times to me and I can't track down the problem ...

Any ideas ?
Thanks!
There are dozens of google hits for this error message, mostly in other forums, but in each instance I found, after a bit of investigation, it turned out to be a missing font problem.
(which obviously isn't the case here...)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 4:33 am
From: "Ed Hannigan"

Try trashing/resetting Preferences as per the FAQs.

Possibly an invisible character (a space or return, for instance) that's in another font?) You could select all the text and make sure it's all in the font(s) you want. Just a shot in the dark.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:25 am
From: mantralightroom@adobeforums.com

Hi
I don't know if there are issues about have cs4 , cs3 and cs2 installed in the same pc

I bought cs2 in italian

and i have installed cs3 in english to follow the turorial more easily

thanks

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Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:24 am
From: Dave_Evanson@adobeforums.com

I have enabled the 3GB switch on a XP Pro (32bit) SP3 system with 4GB RAM and CS4 installed. I haven't had any problems and I think* Photoshop reports a maximum of 2.6GB available RAM but recommends using up to 1.8GB (71%) which has run without any problems so far. The default setting was around 60%.

[*] I'm at work now but can check the exact numbers when I get home.

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TOPIC: smart objects uneditable --> bug ?
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/5ce479b8e628046e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:47 am
From: Mark_J_Peterson@adobeforums.com

When I try to edit smart objects via right-click>>edit contents (or double-click on the smart oject layer icon for that matter) this happens:

A.) if I disable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], PS calculates some seconds with intense HDD activity and then nothing happens visually, no window opens-up for editing, but the history log has the usual new entry "edit contents". Repeated tries result in repeated "edit contents" logs, but no visual changes.
[[In one instance the raster grahpic encapsulated into the smart object got enlarged by 200%-300%. But again, no window opened up for editing. I hit "edit contents" 3-4 times and I could always reproduce this. But ever since that day, it never happened to me again).

B.) if I enable [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files], ACR launches and displays the raster graphic the smart object is based on. Upon closing ACR, no window opens-up for editing the smart object.

I have been working with smart objects for some months now and everything worked fine. This bug started occurring some 3 weeks ago, but as I said, sometimes it works, sometimes not. I cannot find any regularities as to what could lead to this malfunctioning. The only regularity I found so far (but could be a coincidence) is that the smart objects affected by the bug were always (at least I don't remember any other case) .jpeg files that I opened in Photoshop(CS3) with abovementioned preference set so that ACR launches upon opening a .jpeg file. In ACR I alt-clicked the open button so that it says "open objects". So the smart objects were always based on a single layer .jpeg raster graphic opened in ACR.

My best bet would be that there is something that ACR writes into the smart object that isn't 100% identical to the way Photoshop would write smart object if I:
1) open the .jpeg file in ACR
2) click open/open copy (not open object)
3) convert the raster graphic to a smart object inside Photoshop itself.

But that's only a guess. I have quite a lot of work to do currently, but I hope to be able to provide additional information quickly enough if need be.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:57 am
From: Mark_J_Peterson@adobeforums.com

OK, I think my "best bet" is becoming more likely:

I tried the following (with [preferences>>file handling>>prefer ACR for JPEG files] enabled):

A1) open .jpeg file ==> ACR launches
A2) click on "open object"
A3) "edit contents" ==> BUG occurs as described in my OP under "B.)"

B1) open .jpeg file ==> ACR launches
B2) click on "open"
B3) convert raster layer to smart object
B4) "edit contents" ==> bug does NOT occur

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TOPIC: PS CS4 opening error message: OWL Orphanage
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/af128c17883ba342?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 3:52 am
From: Judith_Lipmanson@adobeforums.com

Found It!!

Ender and Fred:

Didn't get to try Fred's suggestion as Ender's gave me another idea that fixed the problem -- although it's actually a work-around, and this is a bug.

Ender you said to move the CS3 plugins folder. I didn't know if that was a typo or not, so I tried it with both the CS3 and CS4 plugins. Neither did anything, but I got no additional error messages, just the usual OWL error.

I decided to try Fred's suggestion of eliminating the Preferences so opened them up to record my current settings. On a hunch I unchecked my Additional Plug-ins folder, which is on my second drive, D. I do this because I got tired of losing or copying or installing all my own plugins when I went to a new version. In CS3 I use the same additional plugins setting and there is no problem.
When I unchecked the Additional Plugins folder, the message disappeared. Don't know if the problem is that the additional folder is on another drive or if it's because some of my plugins are incompatible with CS4. This is a bug.

Fred - To answer your questions, I do not have any of the suites. I have standalone PS/Bridge and Lightroom. I also have the full Adobe Acrobat. When I first loaded PS-CS4 from the installer I immediately set my preferences, and yes, I did set the scratch disk. I also set the additional plugins folder. The second time I loaded PS was after a reboot, and the error message appeared for the first time.

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TOPIC: Any Other Dinosaurs Out There? Need PhotoDeluxe Business Edition 1.0
Help (Restore after Crash)
http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.photoshop.windows/browse_thread/thread/2a2a3819fdc5865e?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 4:45 am
From: jclark3779@aol.com

I mainly use the EZ Photo Slideshow Program. Is there an identical
program out there? Thanks in advance

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Date: Thurs, Nov 6 2008 4:48 am
From: Danny_Devito@adobeforums.com

can someone please answer the question?

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